posted September 16, 2014 10:04 PM            

I have a venus square neptune. Don't even get me started on that one...

And a ton of harsh aspects to Saturn.

And a lot of Neptunian energy in there as well.

Stuck is a good way to describe how I feel lately. Any advice on how to overcome these types of aspects?

I have:
Saturn opposite AS
saturn square sun
saturn square venus
saturn square mercury

posted September 16, 2014 11:21 PM              

Saturn is in my first house and is in fall retrograde.

Do you know the effects of Venus square Neptune with aspects to Saturn? If so, let me know how it is for you.

posted September 16, 2014 11:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
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posted September 17, 2014 01:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Shespeaks1:
Yeah, me too.

I have a venus square neptune. Don't even get me started on that one...

And a ton of harsh aspects to Saturn.

And a lot of Neptunian energy in there as well.

Stuck is a good way to describe how I feel lately. Any advice on how to overcome these types of aspects?

I have:
Saturn opposite AS
saturn square sun
saturn square venus
saturn square mercury

neptune opposite AS
neptune square sun
neptune square venus
neptune square mercury

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Out of those aspect you listed, I think Sun square Saturn is the only really "hard" aspect. But still, it's a square, the opposition would have been worse I believe. The square you can probably learn to tackle with time, but it will take both discipline, hard work and a lot of effort. The problem with this aspect is that you can grow very hard on yourself - too hard on yourself. And too self-critical. Which houses are saturn and sun in? These areas are likely to be most affected by it. People with this aspect can suffer from low self-esteem, usually rooted in childhood and usually linked to an absent father or a father who was too strict on you.
You learned through childhood to be a bit too hard on yourself, and this has manifested deep in you. And you need to shake that off again, or at least learn to be more realistic about it.

Neptune square sun would have a kind of very different effect though, and I could even see how it can strengthen the other aspect or maybe loosen it. This aspect makes you extremely sensitive towards others, and if you don't take care of this aspect it could be potentially dangerous because you can get all disillusioned. Your very sense of yourself, your identity, your personality can be distorted and you can grow so much self doubt.
On the other hand you are probably very creatively gifted and would have a nice sense of the arts in everything.

My hope is that saturn and neptune could support each other, cause having both these planet in hard aspects, also makes you have a lot of energy, and probably learn it the hard way already from an early age.
Saturn is self-discipline and having mercury square saturn you can really learn to master some serious self-discipline with your very though pattern, so with time you will also discover how many complicated things you are actually capable of doing, just out of sheer stubbornness and self taught discipline.

Squares are hard and craves some serious work, but the good thing about the square is that it is a problem that exist inside yourself and therefor you are able to detect what its about and then work on a solution.

The opposition is different, because it always works between two extremes that is often in contact with the outer world, which is why with the opposition you constantly run into problems with other people and you always stand back and say the word "why?". It takes some time to find balance between the two extremes, while the square is more about finding a solution to your own behavior that makes for trouble.

posted September 17, 2014 05:42 AM            

That's a very tight T-Square involving three personal planets, and both lights square -- one being an outer.

posted September 17, 2014 09:29 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Out of those aspect you listed, I think Sun square Saturn is the only really "hard" aspect. But still, it's a square, the opposition would have been worse I believe. The square you can probably learn to tackle with time, but it will take both discipline, hard work and a lot of effort. The problem with this aspect is that you can grow very hard on yourself - too hard on yourself. And too self-critical. Which houses are saturn and sun in? These areas are likely to be most affected by it. People with this aspect can suffer from low self-esteem, usually rooted in childhood and usually linked to an absent father or a father who was too strict on you.
You learned through childhood to be a bit too hard on yourself, and this has manifested deep in you. And you need to shake that off again, or at least learn to be more realistic about it.

Neptune square sun would have a kind of very different effect though, and I could even see how it can strengthen the other aspect or maybe loosen it. This aspect makes you extremely sensitive towards others, and if you don't take care of this aspect it could be potentially dangerous because you can get all disillusioned. Your very sense of yourself, your identity, your personality can be distorted and you can grow so much self doubt.
On the other hand you are probably very creatively gifted and would have a nice sense of the arts in everything.

My hope is that saturn and neptune could support each other, cause having both these planet in hard aspects, also makes you have a lot of energy, and probably learn it the hard way already from an early age.
Saturn is self-discipline and having mercury square saturn you can really learn to master some serious self-discipline with your very though pattern, so with time you will also discover how many complicated things you are actually capable of doing, just out of sheer stubbornness and self taught discipline.

Squares are hard and craves some serious work, but the good thing about the square is that it is a problem that exist inside yourself and therefor you are able to detect what its about and then work on a solution.

The opposition is different, because it always works between two extremes that is often in contact with the outer world, which is why with the opposition you constantly run into problems with other people and you always stand back and say the word "why?". It takes some time to find balance between the two extremes, while the square is more about finding a solution to your own behavior that makes for trouble.

Hope this helps!
I have saturn square mercury and neptune square mercury myself, and I actually LOVE both aspect because they seem to work well together (most of the times lol)

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Wow. You are on point. I feel like saturn really restricts me and yes I stand in my own way a lot. It's a vicious cycle it seems. It doesn't have too much to do with outer aspects, minus my relationship with my dad.

posted September 18, 2014 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Shespeaks1:
Wow. You are on point. I feel like saturn really restricts me and yes I stand in my own way a lot. It's a vicious cycle it seems. It doesn't have too much to do with outer aspects, minus my relationship with my dad.

The neptune really throws me off because I get stuck in lalaland a lot. My saturn and neptune both are in my 7th house too. ;(

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posted September 18, 2014 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
I second that, difficult charts do not have to be a bad thing at all in the end. I suppose mine is quite similarly "bad" as Aubyanne's example, with Saturn in detriment at the apex of a T-Square with Jupiter, Chiron, Mars and Uranus, and no harmonious aspects whatsoever. It's also just out of orb (11'30) of forming a conjunction with the Sun, but for some reason the effect on the Sun can still be felt. The Sun in turn is at the apex of yet another T-Square with the Moon and Pluto, and exactly quincunx Neptune. Both T-Squares land in the 8th House of crisis and transformation; let's just say my life has been ... umm... "eventful" so far. But even though many of the things that happened were mighty unpleasant, they surely were rather interesting as well and taught me a thing or two. So from this perspective, it's all good, I really wouldn't have it any other way.

I guess one could say, just because your chart may be "royally screwed up" doesn't mean YOU have to screw up as well

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posted September 18, 2014 03:11 PM            

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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
I have Neptune square Venus too, and Venus is being opposed by Saturn too. My Venus is in libra.

Saturn is in my first house and is in fall retrograde.

Do you know the effects of Venus square Neptune with aspects to Saturn? If so, let me know how it is for you.

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