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amisha121877
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From: NJ, USA
Registered: May 2013
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posted September 17, 2014 12:06 PM
  
Read something funny the other day, the post said something along the lines of if a baby is in the womb for about 9 months, why isn't it 9 months already when it's born? This sparked, in me, a thought - what if we looked at a natal chart, deducted around 9 months from the Sun sign - is there usually something of significance at that point? After looking at a few charts - there are some interesting things to see at those points. My grandmother was born on 12/04/33 - if you go back 9 months (I know, every baby isn't born in exactly 9 months), the date would be 3/04/33 which is pisces, somewhere around 12-13 pisces. Interesting enough, 12-13 pisces is in her MC. I just read somewhere that having a pisces MC makes one compassionate, inspirational, with a spiritual perception. My grandmother was one of those individuals who could pick up things about people and was the one who would wonder about someone, call/visit them, and lo and behold, they were going through something. Many would come to her to talk to her and get her suggestion. She worked very hard and could do so many things at one time. She also considered all decisions she made so she wasn't one to make decisions in the heat of the moment, she actually thought things through. If you look at the Omega symbol for that point (12-13 pisces) - it says "A castle so vast no one has ever explored all of it". Which I feel is true also - she was my grandmother but until dementia and Parkinson's took over - I'm finding out there is a lot of things that took place in her life and about her, I didn't know. Anyway - I really feel the point of conception is pretty important in a chart and says a lot about the theme of your life. Check it out and let me know what you think. IP: Logged |
MiaPluto
Knowflake Posts: 740
From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Registered: Aug 2014
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posted September 17, 2014 12:11 PM
The day I was 'created', the sun was in Sagittarius.I have a Sagittarius MC. Is the a coincidence? Lol. ------------------
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amisha121877
Knowflake Posts: 25
From: NJ, USA
Registered: May 2013
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posted September 17, 2014 12:16 PM
Can I ask what day (number) you were born?This way, we can see how far into Saggitarius. Sadge runs November 23rd until December 21st. That's 29 days and I'd say about 29 degrees. IP: Logged |
IV XXIV
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posted September 17, 2014 01:17 PM
I was conceived July 17th - due April 20th but was extracted (c-section baby lol) April 24th. My MC is in Capricorn, not Cancer. Only cancer placements I have are Mars and Juno. IP: Logged |
7thGuardian
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From: Transylvania
Registered: May 2012
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posted September 17, 2014 01:42 PM
The "9 Months" part - is just a medical approximation. Some babies come out sooner (or they're forced out - as a result to certain complications - either with the mother or the baby) - as it's the case with "premature births" - others latter (if there are no complications - "the baby comes out when it's ready"). Could be 6 months, 12 months or 9 months (this being considered "the norm" - after 9 months the baby is suppose to be fully grown - and ready for birth). Either way - while being inside the womb, the subject in question - is not a baby yet - in first stage of its development it's a zygote (fertilized egg) and after 8 weeks it evolves into a fetus. That being said - as long as the subject is still inside the womb - it's still a part of the carrier party (the mother) - "it doesn't have an Ego yet". Only after being born - the Ego comes into question. An undeveloped Ego at that point, still dependent of another party for its survival - but not necessarily the one who gave him birth (his natural mother). Thus - the time of birth is acknowledged as the starting point for the Ego - or the time when a new person came into being. Defined in astrology by: the Ascendant - or the Outer Self (the shell), the Sun - or the Inner Self, the Moon - or the emotional nature and so on...
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amisha121877
Knowflake Posts: 25
From: NJ, USA
Registered: May 2013
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posted September 17, 2014 01:52 PM
OK IV XXIV - Cancer runs from June 22nd to July 22nd. So 15-16 cancer is of some importance in your life theme. Is there anything at that point or conjunct that point? Also - notice the house it's in. Omega symbol says for 15-16 cancer, the following:
15 A man in an air-conditioned space suit crossing the desert.16 A woman dressed in immaculately clean rags. Does anything about the above stand out as a life theme for you?
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IV XXIV
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posted September 17, 2014 01:57 PM
I don't have any placements at 15 or 16 degrees, and neither the man nor woman mean anything to me or ring any bells lol. IP: Logged |
amisha121877
Knowflake Posts: 25
From: NJ, USA
Registered: May 2013
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posted September 17, 2014 02:15 PM
7thGuardian
Regarding the 9 months part, if someone doesn't know the exact day they were conceived, pinpointing some key to your life theme would be as difficult as someone who is trying to create a natal chart without knowing what time they were born.Zygotes are alive so, to me, it counts. It's not so much a ego thing (that's why I'm pointing out the day of conception rather than the day one was born aka sun sign/degree). The sun, in the chart, is the Ego. Regardless of how the ego is, the life theme is still there. This is moreso regarding life themes. Maybe more of an emphasis on what your spirit is attracted to and attracts. IDK - from the charts I'm looking at, the life theme seems to be there, including my own. IV XXIV - sorry about that - July 17th is 5 days before July 22nd so that would be 23 or 24 or 25 degrees cancer.
23 A man thanking all his books for the wisdom they have imparted to him.
24 A man building a structure meant to look like the ruins of a temple.
25 An invisible man yearning to feel the sun on his skin. Omega symbols, a bit like sabian symbols, are symbolic meanings for each degree. Also - are those degrees in your 3rd or 4th house? Nothing about your life seems to be pronounced by 3rd/4th house related matters?
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7thGuardian
Knowflake Posts: 1370
From: Transylvania
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posted September 17, 2014 04:17 PM
Well, If you were born between 1959 and 2013 - and you know the exact time when you were conceived (some parents remember that day - for all we know, it could have been an unforgettable accident ^^) - you could use this site: http://www.porktrack.com - to find out - what popular song was playing on the radio at that time. That's another good way to romanticize that moment. For example - you can take that song as your life theme.  As far as astrology goes - if you know when your Grandma was born (her day and year of birth) - that should be enough for some info on her life theme - from a chart based on that day alone, even without the time of birth. And since i mentioned this part (unknown time of birth) - if you've had your share of introspection up until this point (at least enough "to you know yourself") - you can use Sabian Symbols - to find the exact time of birth (even the exact minute). quote:
Zygotes are alive so, to me, it counts. It's not so much a ego thing (that's why I'm pointing out the day of conception rather than the day one was born aka sun sign/degree). The sun, in the chart, is the Ego. Regardless of how the ego is, the life theme is still there.
Being a living organisms - and having an Ego, it's not the same thing. A zygote doesn't have an Ego - as a matter of fact - at that stage in its evolution it's part of another Ego - "the Ego of the carrier (the Ego of the mother)".
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