posted September 20, 2014 08:48 AM            

am i doomed? <<i like this classic dumb question :P

but really, it's really exhausting to go on 1 side, also exhausting to done nothing at all.

any insight??

Ascendant Sagittarius 8.03
Sun Aquarius 25.02 III
Moon Scorpio 26.17 XII
Mercury Pisces 10.24 IV
Venus Aries 9.12 V
Mars Cancer 8.41 R VIII
Jupiter Libra 14.18 R
Saturn Aquarius 21.25 III
Uranus Capricorn 20.10 II
Neptune Capricorn 19.58 II
Pluto Scorpio 25.30 XII
Lilith Pisces 13.25

Sun in detriment
Moon in Fall
Mercury both Detriment and Fall
Venus in Detriment
Mars in Fall

Sun square moon as a single aspect i heard is really difficult to handle, what if i also have that famous moon square saturn..

don't judge me pls, i just want you to share knowledge astrology -based. my life-my real life will not be only depend on my chart and 'their analysis,

posted September 20, 2014 12:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Koho:
I can't give you particular insight on your placement but I can tell you from dealing from my placement that falls and detriments don't spell out disaster. You just need to adapt to the tools given.

I have Moon in Capricorn in the 8th conjunct Saturn exact. I am absolutely no good at consoling or giving a pat on the back. That does suck. But I'm very good in a pinch. My emotions are in strict control during a crisis. Once I learned that about myself I ended up joining the military and chose a job that requires clear thinking in high speed situations. So, just make it work for you and don't get stuck in the 'Am I doomed' thinking.

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Plus 1 for this answer! Spot on, IMO.

I have Mercury, Venus and Mars in detriment and I can guarantee you I'm far from doomed! As I said in another thread my Venus & my Merc are two of my best features. LOL.

Mars is a bit difficult these days. It hasn't always been difficult. It's just gone all temperamental now that I'm at a cross roads and I need to work on getting out of this indecision I'm finding myself in. But these things are just part of life. Nothing is 100% perfect all the time even with a chart full of exalted planets.

posted September 20, 2014 02:35 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Plus 1 for this answer! Spot on, IMO.

I have Mercury, Venus and Mars in detriment and I can guarantee you I'm far from doomed! As I said in another thread my Venus & my Merc are two of my best features. LOL.

Mars is a bit difficult these days. It hasn't always been difficult. It's just gone all temperamental now that I'm at a cross roads and I need to work on getting out of this indecision I'm finding myself in. But these things are just part of life. Nothing is 100% perfect all the time even with a chart full of exalted planets.

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What are your placements if I may ask?

posted September 20, 2014 02:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Koho:
What are your placements if I may ask?

I have a very afflicted Mars as well. All my natal stresses are on my Mars in Aries 12th house. I've learned to control it with time and adulthood and I credit it to a very tight Jupiter aspect to the Mars.

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I have
Sag Sun/Moon
Sag Merc
Scrop Venus
Libra Mars

My Mars is also in the 12th. I have only easy aspects, sextile Moon & Merc.

Mine is not getting better with time. It's getting worse. I used to know what I wanted, be very decisive and then go after what I wanted.

Lately I can't make a decision to save my life. Blah.

I know if I could only just decide then I'd go for it. I'm frozen for some reason.

posted September 20, 2014 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I have
Sag Sun/Moon
Sag Merc
Scrop Venus
Libra Mars

My Mars is also in the 12th. I have only easy aspects, sextile Moon & Merc.

Mine is not getting better with time. It's getting worse. I used to know what I wanted, be very decisive and then go after what I wanted.

Lately I can't make a decision to save my life. Blah.

I know if I could only just decide then I'd go for it. I'm frozen for some reason.

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Oh no, my 12th house Mars brother/sister. It's tough. We gotta fight the inertia forever and ever.

Libra Mars in the 12th definitely spells out decision making problems!

My problem with the Aries Mars in the 12th isn't starting but sustaining. I get gungho at the start and quickly lose energy in a very ADDlike manner.

posted September 20, 2014 03:05 PM            

But to introduce the use of final depositers, is just retarded. If the sun truly resonated exactly to the leos tune, then i would understand final depositers. but it doesnt. the sun is just an energy and the sign is a different kind of energy. its like saying the red works best with a triangle. the sun wasnt made for leo and i've seen leos who were shy quiet and debilitated. its just foolish to say that a planet works better in a sign.

posted September 20, 2014 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
the idea of planetary rulerships was good for a time, it got people pulled in and interested. they had to go as far as they could and decide which planet worked best where.

But to introduce the use of final depositers, is just retarded. If the sun truly resonated exactly to the leos tune, then i would understand final depositers. but it doesnt. the sun is just an energy and the sign is a different kind of energy. its like saying the red works best with a triangle. the sun wasnt made for leo and i've seen leos who were shy quiet and debilitated. its just foolish to say that a planet works better in a sign.

sorry guys but its true

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posted September 20, 2014 03:23 PM            

i think calling a planet better in one house is like saying the triangles best colour is red

but then again, maybe there are average colours for a triangle, and then there are opposite extremes. for example a rectangle is a more mellow shape than a triangle in my opinion, so a triangle is a more fierce shape so red would match the triangle best perhaps, and there would be colours that are just average for a triangle, and then there might be unsuiting colours for a triangle like gray, and aqua

So i dont know

posted September 20, 2014 04:01 PM            

My Sun is totally happy being Libra, it's very self-confident, shining with all it's might, being fueled by Mars and NN putting it in a nice little triangle. I don't lack direction, purpose and a sense of personal "power". I know I'll fulfill everything I put my mind into. But that's also my SN in Leo, conjunct Jupiter talking
But, I've also known Libras that lack direction... It's probably because of the aspects their Sun makes.

But my Virgo Venus... That's another story altogether. It's a struggle, the square from my Moon doesn't help, and a trine from Saturn neither, let me tell you that. Chiron also touches it. If it had "nicer" aspects, I'd probably express it differently.

All in all I don't really believe in fatalistic definitions of detriments and falls. It's all about context.
Even my Virgo Mercury has lots of issues, despite being exalted.

posted September 20, 2014 05:11 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
y3qh for sure. People want to know their chart rulers. Theres other ways to find your chart ruler then final depositers. I know from personal exp points that i got from interward observaterotion tht wen a simple planet, just any one planet, conjoins the ascendent, or aspectulates it astrongmongthts, it provoks encapsulating sharpeness of power and wit, fro exump, When UR ascendet makes an exact sextile to neptune, it felt strongr dthan thuh 2.3 degree conjunction of venus to asc from 12th house. the asc is a influencial POINT. So regard it strongly.

aside from that, CHArt shapes are a lot, for example, if you have a bucket planet, the handle of that will potentially be the dominant planet, or at least the funnel as you all know, which leaves the biggest mark from ur personality than all the other planets. so there you go. you dont need depositers

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Yes, my final dispositor is Mercury, my ascendent is ruled by Uranus (well and Saturn if you take into account traditional astrology)...Pullen says Uranus is my dominant planet and it should also, conventionally speaking be my chart ruler... it makes four aspects, none really tight, but in the order from the smallest orb to biggest, they go:
quincunq Jupiter
square Sun
quincunq Mars
conjunct Moon
So in your opinion, Jupiter is my chart ruler?

posted September 20, 2014 05:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Belba:
Yes, my final dispositor is Mercury, my ascendent is ruled by Uranus (well and Saturn if you take into account traditional astrology)...Pullen says Uranus is my dominant planet and it should also, conventionally speaking be my chart ruler... it makes four aspects, none really tight, but in the order from the smallest orb to biggest, they go:
quincunq Jupiter
square Sun
quincunq Mars
conjunct Moon
So in your opinion, Jupiter is my chart ruler?

(I hope we're not being too OT)

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I think whichever planet aspects your ascendent the strongest is your ruling planet.