posted September 26, 2014 04:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
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I have venus conjunction pluto in scorpio (9 degrees wide though)
And in all of my close relationships/friendships there have been a point where we would have a fight (kind of a power struggle fight) but then we have resolved that, and everything was stable from then on

posted September 26, 2014 05:22 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I have venus conjunction pluto in scorpio (9 degrees wide though)
And in all of my close relationships/friendships there have been a point where we would have a fight (kind of a power struggle fight) but then we have resolved that, and everything was stable from then on

I feel I gotta "test" people sometimes if I get really close to them… "can we get into a fight with each other, but still solve it and be friends again afterwards?" I think it might be the scorpios destructive character, but then also the need to let something "die" in order for it to be "reborn/transformed" again in a new way Everything feels stronger and more stable after a good old-fashioned drama…

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posted September 26, 2014 05:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
I have Venus square Pluto. I don't necessarily have power struggles in my friendships, but I tend to be really picky on who I call "real friends". Sometimes, there is jealousy in my frienships either coming from me or my friends. Maybe it's because I have Mars in Libra that I tend to not have much power struggles.

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"I tend to be really picky on who I call "real friends"."

posted September 26, 2014 09:18 AM            

The power struggle only comes out from the other person's side.

posted September 26, 2014 10:44 AM            

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Originally posted by alyssa27:
no power struggles in my friendships,not at all.
but i have the trine,a girl i know has the square and she's definitely dealing with power struggles in her friendships actually in all her intimate relationships.

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Yep, this sounds familiar...

posted September 26, 2014 12:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Virgo28:
I have Venus square Pluto and I don't test people.

The power struggle only comes out from the other person's side.

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So true.

posted September 26, 2014 02:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
Haha yeah. Do you also attract possessive and jealous friends too? i have noticed that i attract jealous females to me and also power hungry females. I feel i always "trigger" something negative in females i dont know what i say or do bc i help out and actually alot of my friends have jokingly called me a "counselor" and comes to me when they are in emotional pain and i can be friendly with strangers but still i attract the same type of women- jealous and power hungry females.Whether i am close to these females or not i always come in contact with women that have major jealousy issues that are almost incapable of being happy for someone else because their jealousy gets in the way.

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I don't. I assume you're thinking that Pluto conjunct Venus means power hungry females but that's just not the case for me. My Mars isn't conjunct with Pluto but I think I've encountered as many jealous, power hungry men as women (taking into account the interaction between members of the same and different gender is going to be different due to society, etc) but I tend to keep them all at a distance, possibly due to my Scorpio energies. And then there's my Sag stellium which makes me happy to slip out from under any thumb trying to hold me down and find someone more pleasant to be around. I don't let anyone, male or female, smother me...perhaps if I didn't do that then such people would gain a foothold in my life and drive everyone else away until they were all that's left.

However, I was shunned by most girls all through school and most girls who were friends with me were also shunned for a variety of reasons. Once out of public schooling I was no longer surrounded by that but I tended to become closest to eccentrics and free spirits (true of guys as well) so that doesn't provide a lot of opportunity to attract the kind of women you describe.

Though I can point out that women tend to be much more concerned with social image, at least as far as wanting to know what others are saying about them. Men typically have a fairly good idea where they stand, but females, unfortunately, tend to be a lot more two-faced and sneaky than males since females are generally put down for confrontation while guys are generally praised for it, so that's a concern for many (I don't say this to slam females, I can slam male tendencies just as easily, and I see a lot of social conditioning by both genders that are equally guilty creating flawed behavior that's all too common in each gender).

And if you're being a "counselor" then you're learning secrets, and that gives you power over them (and at the same time they desire to know the secrets of others while protecting their own)...and makes you a security risk if you're talking and sharing with others as well, especially if sides ever have to be chosen...so I can understand why plenty of the more average females would want to make sure they can trust you with their secrets by limiting your contact with others so they can feel "safe" with you (hence, jealous and power hungry, but also jealous of your success since they fear being judged or thought "unworthy" so that you turn against them even as you know some of their secrets that you can then turn into social weapons against them as you bond with those "more worthy" by gossiping and judging the "unworthy" which then may spread and threaten her social status with everyone else).

posted September 26, 2014 03:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
Haha yeah. Do you also attract possessive and jealous friends too? i have noticed that i attract jealous females to me and also power hungry females. I feel i always "trigger" something negative in females i dont know what i say or do bc i help out and actually alot of my friends have jokingly called me a "counselor" and comes to me when they are in emotional pain and i can be friendly with strangers but still i attract the same type of women- jealous and power hungry females.Whether i am close to these females or not i always come in contact with women that have major jealousy issues that are almost incapable of being happy for someone else because their jealousy gets in the way.I have the square btw.

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Not really my close friends, and I've got many close and good friends through the years… But I have countless episodes with "strangers"… I feel people are very "all or nothing" towards me (and I with them) either we hate each other like the plague, or we like each other. It's intense in that scorpio way, that you can't ignore.

posted September 26, 2014 05:11 PM            

I can be jealous but only when I am feeling very vulnerable and powerless. But I have never gotten into a fight because of jealousy.. It's more of an internal thing. I can hide it.

posted September 26, 2014 10:37 PM            

pluto conjuncts saturn, so i feel very cut and dry about my decisions…i can make intense decisions easily, no turning back, no sympathy. so don't try to have a power struggle with me! haha.