posted September 27, 2014 01:29 PM            

Mars is now coming back into bounds.

We had two Eclipses, and Mars hit Pluto in the interim. I wonder what happened?

Especially if you were born with out of bounds Planets?

(Declination 23 Degrees 27 or more.)

Opening Post:

Looks like the Moon is going to hit an Out of Bounds Mars in a few days here.

Mars is part of a Grand Trine and/or Kite placement, in Sag Ten Degree.

Looking Real Good for the Middle Degrees, there.

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posted September 27, 2014 01:40 PM            

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On the positive side, Mars OOB can give generous amounts of ambition, courage, self confidence, masculine energy, daring, boldness, drive, physical vitality, passion, will power, stamina, adventure and leadership ability. Katherine Hepburn is an excellent example of Mars OOB. Her unconventionality has been well documented- she refused to wear makeup off-screen, she did not give interviews, she refused to give autographs, she did not wear skirts and in fact famously walked around in her underwear because the costume department stole her boyish slacks. There is no way anyone tells this headstrong lady what to do! She mischievously commented "if you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun!" (12). She is admired for her her independence, powerful voice, ability to go head to head with her male co-stars, her unapologetic honesty and tell it like it is attitude. She was certainly daring, she insisted on doing all her own stunts because the stunt women never stood up straight enough (13). Katherine certainly made her mark on the world, she earned 12 Academy award nominations and won 4 of them for best actress, this record has never been beat (14). In addition, her 60 year long career has been filled with 44 feature films, 8 television movies, and 33 plays, her enthusiasm, ambition and sense of adventure cannot be denied!
Frida Kahlo is an example of a very rare OOB Mars at 28 degrees. Frida was a famous Mexican painter, best known for her self portraits and works influenced by indigenous Mexican culture, realism, symbolism and surrealism (15). Immediately striking is her masculine facial structure and features, she even had a mustache and unibrow! Her 200 paintings are her autobiography, they all relate to her painful emotional and physical experiences and her passionate/ stormy relationship with her lover Diego Rivera (16). Recall that Mars represents a "me first" attitude, for good or for ill, people with a highlighted Mars are very much focused on themselves and their life experiences. Seeing things from other people's perspective does not come easily or naturally to them. Mars also represents the body, physical vitality and stamina. When Frida was 6, she got Polio and her right leg and foot were permanently deformed, thus she had to hobble when walking. When she was 18, she was in a traffic accident that caused extreme injuries and left her immobile and in intense pain for months. During this time she was alone most of the time and painted numerous paintings of herself. She explains "I paint myself because I am so often alone and because I am the subject I know best"......"I never painted dreams....I painted my own reality" (17). Given the extent to which Mars is OOB in Frida's chart, it is no surprise that her body preoccupied her attention and that she underwent extreme suffering. She endured more than 35 operations, amputation of her right leg due to gangrene, she had to terminate three pregnancies and was confined to a hospital or bedridden for months at a time through the course of her entire life! (18). Frida was a remarkable woman, celebrated for her courage, endurance, passion, colorful character and striking portraits that continue to fascinate us to this day.
There is also a much less pleasant manifestation of OOB Mars. Mars OOB can cause a person to be excessively aggressive, dangerously violent, rash, brutal, angry, impulsive, self centered, sexually sadistic, excessively forceful, and have a tendency to pick unprovoked fights. Patrick Kearney (also known as the freeway killer) is a serial killer who brutally murdered over 30 homosexual men and young boys. He had a predictable routine for the murders. After picking them up in his car and while driving he shot them, sexually assaulted the dead bodies, dismembered and mutilated the bodies and then dumped the body parts in trash bags along highways and desserts between Los Angeles and Mexico (19, 20).

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posted September 27, 2014 02:53 PM            

Intriguing is the negative/positive traits of oob`s:

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On the positive side, OOB planets are visionary, inventive, inspirational, original and deeply cherish their freedom of thought and action, especially in the area governed by the planet. On the negative side, OOB planets can contribute to insanity, abnormal thoughts/ feelings and complete disregard for the law.

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Also of interest to me is the almost 50% ratio of oob`s.It didn`t say what the traits are for those with zero oob`s.

So thanks and off to see the oob`s lurking in mine

posted September 27, 2014 05:50 PM            

I think Twenty Three Twenty Seven is the Declination start point.

Above or Below.

It's basically someone who thinks outside the box, they don't have the same mental boundaries as most.

posted September 27, 2014 07:48 PM            

I have a natal OOB MARS. Transiting MARS is conjuncting my SUN. My 11H MARS is an earth singleton, rules my 3H at an anaretic degree, and squares it's ruler (SATURN). MARS is my "trouble child", though usually well-kept in check (conservative Capricorn). Lately, I've been short-tempered, and that alone was irritating me.

posted September 27, 2014 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by ReeseC:
Wow, everyone is on a roll today
I'm learning about stuff I've never even heard of.

Is my Mars oob? It's at 29° in Pisces.

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You have to check your declinations. If you go to astro.com, you can open a PDF which lists them. If your declination exceeds 23°27', your planet is OOB.

posted September 27, 2014 10:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
You have to check your declinations. If you go to astro.com, you can open a PDF which lists them. If your declination exceeds 23°27', your planet is OOB.

You can use declinations to determine if your planets are parallel or contraparallel, too. Those act kind of like conjunctions and oppositions, respectively.

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Thank you BW. I had no idea what declinations meant until now. And to answer my own question, my Mars' declination is at 1° Lol. Nowhere near OOB.

posted September 27, 2014 11:34 PM            

Anyway not that it's been all rainbow and butterflys for me in general, and tJupiter is already seperating from my early/mid fire planets so the lottery ship has probably already sailed.. Interesting about mars out of bounds though, I guess I have an OOB moon too. Explains a lot actually lol

posted September 27, 2014 11:37 PM            

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Originally posted by ReeseC:

Thank you BW. I had no idea what declinations meant until now. And to answer my own question, my Mars' declination is at 1° Lol. Nowhere near OOB.

My Jupiter is 23°44' N and my Uranus is 23°28' S and they are opposite each other.

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That means they're contraparallel in addition to being in opposition. Consider it an amplifier to the opposition energy. JUPITER-URANUS opp for you must be like a wild see-saw ride, that makes you motion sick from time to time.

Orb for declination is very small. I wouldn't stray more than 1°12' max. Parallel is like a conjunction and usually beneficial, despite the points involved. Contraparallel is like an opposition, but weaker. They're best considered as amplifiers to natal aspects, but if you've got a pre-existing pattern in natal, parallels can shed extra light on your individual story. They're especially useful when checking your evolution from draconic to natal, since declinations can change quite drastically.

posted September 29, 2014 12:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
That means they're contraparallel in addition to being in opposition. Consider it an amplifier to the opposition energy. JUPITER-URANUS opp for you must be like a wild see-saw ride, that makes you motion sick from time to time.

Orb for declination is very small. I wouldn't stray more than 1°12' max. Parallel is like a conjunction and usually beneficial, despite the points involved. Contraparallel is like an opposition, but weaker. They're best considered as amplifiers to natal aspects, but if you've got a pre-existing pattern in natal, parallels can shed extra light on your individual story. They're especially useful when checking your evolution from draconic to natal, since declinations can change quite drastically.

OOB planets are usually very noticeable, for good or for bad. Consider it like an energetic dog without a leash. If well-trained, it can do amazing things. If not, it can wreak some real havoc.

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posted September 29, 2014 01:35 PM            

I have Eros, Dejanira and Sado OOB, what?

25°34'39" N Sado
25°43' 7" N Dejanira
26°28'55" N EROS

posted November 20, 2014 11:21 PM            

Were you born with out of bounds?