posted September 29, 2014 09:42 PM            

Someone who has the asteroid Nemesis conj your Moon, Nn etc

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posted September 29, 2014 11:14 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I'm best friends with someone who's Mars opposes my Mercury too! Maybe it's just because I have Moon trine Uranus and Sun, Venus, Mercury in Aries that I like opposites and challenging things that mold me. I'm more attracted to signs that square me than the ones that trine. Again, so noted.

And actually I was just thinking of a way to tell you how much I appreciate your answers here! They're so well put and thoughtful. I admire that! I think the same thing most of the time but struggle to ever put it as eloquently.

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How can I forget that warrior Mercury in Aries ?! The opposition is much better than the square. I think a Jupiter-Mercury square would indicate a clash of beliefs and Mercury-Mars square would indicate heated arguments. Given what you've said, I think I want to modify something... The tendency to be a jerk is within the natal but to be a jerk to *you* is how one of your planets activates or clashes with the natal "jerk" aspect. One of the biggest jerks I know had a Mars-Pluto square and Mars-Saturn opposition and his Mars opposed my Sun, Mercury, Saturn, Venus. I felt it especially with the Mercury and Sun because it was an extremely tight aspect. Though he was in love with me, he was always pretty mean to me and was such a jerk. He always said stupid sh*t to me that hurt my feelings. If there's someone you have in mind, check that out... An afflicted Mars in their chart opposing/squaring your Mercury tightly.

posted September 29, 2014 11:51 PM            

One had Mars conjunct Neptune... but no aspects to Saturn. Hardly ANY Saturn aspects at all in his chart (is it any coincidence his chart is almost straight up Capricorn, though?)

Second one: Mars sextile Jupiter, and Mars opposition ASC (in Sag.) The only Saturn aspect he has is trine his Sun.

Third: No Mars / Saturn or Mars / Pluto, but again...Sun square Saturn and Sun square Uranus. WOW I never noticed this pattern before! I have Sun Square Saturn myself and I know other people think I'm mean sometimes (though I'm largely seen as likable *pat pat on my shoulder.*)

Fourth: The only Sun aspect he has is conjunct MC. But he had Venus conj. Saturn and Venus conj. Uranus (note: my Sun, Moon, Mercury, and Venus are all in the 11H). He's the only one I would say I've actually been a jerk to. He has been very compassionate towards me though.

Weird!

posted September 30, 2014 12:14 AM            

The only person I can say I'm often a jerk to is my brother (though it's half a sibling thing) and it's accounted for astrologically. His Moon squares my ASC. His Mars sq my Mars. His Pluto sq my Mars and ASC. His Mercury opposite my Moon. His ASC square my Sun, Venus, Mercury, and Saturn. The weirdest thing is that he loves me soooo much and is so affectionate with me but he is so annnnnnoying in that he constantly pries on me and disturbs my quiet moments and he always picks on me and intrudes my space unannounced... It's more of I lash out at him for being an annoying older brother LOL. He makes the Aquarius in me quite violent and fiercely protective of my freedom.

I love that you have an 11th house stellium. So cool. No wonder you give off such a friendly vibe.

posted September 30, 2014 03:56 AM            

The Aqua Sun - vibe wise, was he a cold fish? Or was he extremely sensitive (cried easy, etc.)? That's out of curiosity.

I think there's a difference between (for example) Aquarius suns and Sun trine Uranus, and people with aspects to a planet will present those qualities more obviously than someone of the Sun sign. I don't have a reason why other than experience.

Uranus in the 12th - lions, and tigers, and bears - OH MY. That's, like, double the issues double the fun right there. Have you noticed how you respond to Sun / Saturn or Venus / Saturn people vs. Capricorns? How does your 1st house stellium working in your 12th house correlate to Capricorns making you feel bad?

Moon square ASC, interesting. All Sag Moons oppose my ASC and my Mars and come to think of it they are always the first to tell me I'm being a jerk in some way or another when I'm just doing what I do. Mercury opposes your Moon - nope, I'm constantly attracting Mercury / Pluto people. In any case, what about your relationships? Siblings shouldn't count!

posted September 30, 2014 10:18 AM            

Moon conj Mars ( I am Moon)
Mercury sq Sun, Venus, Mercury, Ceres (he is Mercury)
Mars opposite Sun, Venus, Mercury, Saturn, Ceres (he is Mars)
Mars sq Neptune (I am Mars)

There's also a lot of Pluto action and more Saturn. Actually, most is Saturn.

He is an Aries Sun, Mercury in 1H so he SHOULD out maneuver me with his Aries-self BUT, my Mars conj Asc is brutal and when I warm up my engines he doesn't stand a chance. However, while he remains calm, cool and collected when delivering his "poison", I literally explode like 1000 suns. He will plant a few words that will cut right through your core and I will do it more Pluto-style ie demolish your presence

posted September 30, 2014 12:02 PM            

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Originally posted by a_may_gemini:
It's whatever sign your 12th house is because the 12th house is house of endings/where you retire/hidden enemies. It is the house that behind the 1st house and 1st house (traditionally) hold the ASC which is representative of cognition/awareness of self.

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that just gotta be nonsense, cause all the gemini friends I've ever had was very good friends, none of them ever acted like jerks towards me, seriously

posted September 30, 2014 12:23 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
that just gotta be nonsense, cause all the gemini friends I've ever had was very good friends, none of them ever acted like jerks towards me, seriously

Gemini is at the end of my 11th house and my 12th house… my boyfriend has gemini mars in my 12th house and he has never ever been a jerk to me either

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Weird, I was thinking the same thing but PisceanDream did say Capricorn was on her 12th and she didn't have good experiences with them. Maybe "be a jerk" and "betray" are getting confused here?

posted September 30, 2014 04:38 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Weird, I was thinking the same thing but PisceanDream did say Capricorn was on her 12th and she didn't have good experiences with them. Maybe "be a jerk" and "betray" are getting confused here?

I have Taurus on the 12th but Mars in Gemini there, even though it's conjunct my ASC (speaking of, @Piscean - does that mean the same thing for me? All my 1st house energy goes towards my 12th house issues?) I've been friends with all the Taurus Suns I know, albeit it was a cat and mouse game with the ones who also had Mars in Gemini.

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Why would the 12th house betray you? I thought that people who put their planet in your 12th house was more about "revealing the secrets" of that house??? And revealing a secret is that the same as betraying someone?

I actually remember that I had a pretty big secret once I was in primary school… and the most popular girl in the class was a gemini sun and she was somehow also my good friend and I saw her as someone I could trust. On day I came to school and somehow I revealed the secret to her, but only she was the one that knew it. She kept the secret the whole time, until one day it was "safe" for me to reveal it myself to everyone.

posted September 30, 2014 05:05 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
Mars oppose moon seems to be the common denominator for me. I also don't know DOB of all of the jerks Ive met

not so much mars conjunct moon though.

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posted September 30, 2014 07:17 PM            

So,I would think that one would tend to get annoyed with people who have Saturn sitting on it(conjunction,square,opposition etc)

One may feel that they "undermine" them in some way or question their ability to be efficient: It can be annoying.

To show how menacing this aspect can be;

A colleague at work that I didn't know at all would often give me dirty looks when I passed him in the corridors.

At first I thought it was just my imagination.So I brushed it off.

On another day,he called my line and got very angry because I wouldn't do what he said was "urgent".

I told him to calm down and act professional. Man, he flipped

He came right over to where I was sitting and I thought a fist fight was imminent.

Luckily i kept my cool and he backed off. And afterwards I wondered what the hell that was all about?

Apparently he was not like that at all to others and surprised most who knew him with his temper on that day.

Upon getting his card,I looked at his chart-expecting a Mars-Moon, Mars-Mars or Mars-Sun square between us. But nothing appeared that was quite so intense.

In-fact,it seemed that we enjoyed nice aspects and if anyone didn't know better,we were actually supposed to be close friends.

But oh,there was my Saturn in Scorpio sitting by square to his Mars in Leo(less than a degree).BOOM!!

I think it irritated him that I was so indifferent(Saturn)to how angry(Mars)he got. Made him think that I was undermining him in some way and not taking him seriously etc.

I truly understood this aspect on that day.

posted September 30, 2014 07:53 PM            

Maybe I'm just overly sensitive though, because I think I've only related to a few of the aspects mentioned.

posted October 02, 2014 07:41 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Warning: It's 2:42 AM so if I ramble and go off track, excuse me.

The Aqua Sun - vibe wise, was he a cold fish? Or was he extremely sensitive (cried easy, etc.)? That's out of curiosity.

I think there's a difference between (for example) Aquarius suns and Sun trine Uranus, and people with aspects to a planet will present those qualities more obviously than someone of the Sun sign. I don't have a reason why other than experience.

Uranus in the 12th - lions, and tigers, and bears - OH MY. That's, like, double the issues double the fun right there. Have you noticed how you respond to Sun / Saturn or Venus / Saturn people vs. Capricorns? How does your 1st house stellium working in your 12th house correlate to Capricorns making you feel bad?

Moon square ASC, interesting. All Sag Moons oppose my ASC and my Mars and come to think of it they are always the first to tell me I'm being a jerk in some way or another when I'm just doing what I do. Mercury opposes your Moon - nope, I'm constantly attracting Mercury / Pluto people. In any case, what about your relationships? Siblings shouldn't count!

Libras are a mixed bag for me, but more often than not I don't like them and how they handle themselves. I've even looked at it from the perspective that they have traits I don't like about myself and that's not even the case. If I DO get along with a Libra it's because they have Scorpio or Capricorn in their chart, and if they have either they're bound to have the other in some shape or form. Otherwise? Uh-uh. Ironically I have a 7th house stellium too.

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He was both cold and sensitive in a weird way... But I do acknowledge that there was a sensitivity there.

It's mainly Capricorns that I've attracted as opposed to Sun conj/sq/opp Saturn folk... They may have other inner planets that strongly aspect Saturn but it always appears in the form of Capricorn.

So the 1st house stellium thing... The ruler of my 1st house serves the 12th but I have most of my personal planets in the 1st house, so the "me" and "self" energy of the 1st is expended on matters of the 12th, the subconscious, self-undoing, isolation, spirituality... My identity serves that house. And that house is in Capricorn. So people whose planets hit my 12th (Caps) have a stronger impact on me because this is the house I am actively concerned with. So I am especially sensitive to the people that hit that house, because I feel like they have access to so much of who I am at the core and because of that they can use it against me (they have done so) and affect me in ways that other people usually can't.

I've only had one synstrically turbulent relationship. It was the dude whose mars (sq pluto) opposed all my Pisces planets. I can't think of someone who I was sh*tty to though in any of my relationships. Maybe the one person I was kind of a jerk to was someone who greatly misunderstood me and pressured me to fit this mold until I lost it. Leo sun in my 6th house conjunct DCS (I also have Chiron in the 7th so relationships are always difficult) His moon sq'd Neptune and Uranus, Mercury opposite Neptune and Uranus, and his Mars sq my Moon. So yeah he irked me so much.

posted October 02, 2014 07:48 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Weird, I was thinking the same thing but PisceanDream did say Capricorn was on her 12th and she didn't have good experiences with them. Maybe "be a jerk" and "betray" are getting confused here?

I have Taurus on the 12th but Mars in Gemini there, even though it's conjunct my ASC (speaking of, @Piscean - does that mean the same thing for me? All my 1st house energy goes towards my 12th house issues?) I've been friends with all the Taurus Suns I know, albeit it was a cat and mouse game with the ones who also had Mars in Gemini.

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Yeah, Capricorns are one of my favorites though I have had bad and sometimes even turbulent experiences with them. Regardless, they are the ones I always find myself getting into relationships with and feeling comfortable with that idea because I don't usually date (hardly ever, actually).