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arcturiann
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posted September 30, 2014 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just wanted to share this video with you all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_3BEwpv0dM

I don't know what this guy's actual birth details are, but he is the perfect example of what i'd imagine a cancerian male to be like at their best. You can just feel the immense sense of loving, nurturing, motherly cancerian vibes especially when he talks about what's on the menu for that day LOL.

This video warmed my heart and made me wish for all those lost nurturing cancerian or piscean males out there to be able to have an opportunity to nurture someone like this. I feel like there are so many of them that have grown this horrifying shell because of the society they live in for example in the US, they are looked down on for expressing that loving nature and it becomes repressed.

I feel like its a match made in heaven, considering males can't really create children and nurture them like women traditionally do, that someone with that need to nurture and those who are in need of it could fulfill eachother in such a beautiful way.

Hope this made your day too!

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margym0o
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posted September 30, 2014 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll have to watch the video later but I think Cancerian males get such a bad rap. Yes, sometimes they deserve it, but I think their true nature gets overshadowed by the negative traits people like to pick at. PATIENCE is key with this sign.

At their best they exude such a warmth, and they will show you in subtle ways just how much they care. I know with my partner when he is at his "best" he is so cuddley and affectionate and verbally expressive, I love it. Yes he has his mood swings and he can be defensive but we all have our "ish" and lord knows my scattered Gemini brain is probably no picnic lol. Even at his worst I know deep down in his core he cares very much.

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arcturiann
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posted September 30, 2014 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by margym0o:
I'll have to watch the video later but I think Cancerian males get such a bad rap. Yes, sometimes they deserve it, but I think their true nature gets overshadowed by the negative traits people like to pick at. PATIENCE is key with this sign.

At their best they exude such a warmth, and they will show you in subtle ways just how much they care. I know with my partner when he is at his "best" he is so cuddley and affectionate and verbally expressive, I love it. Yes he has his mood swings and he can be defensive but we all have our "ish" and lord knows my scattered Gemini brain is probably no picnic lol. Even at his worst I know deep down in his core he cares very much.


Yess, so true. Cancerians in general seem to have a bad rep, and it seems like most websites write so much more negative about cancer than positive. Cancerians really just want to nurture and give affection to people and they want to feel loved and needed :3

Gemini + Cancer is one of my favorite relationship duos! Maybe because my venus is in gem

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posted September 30, 2014 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by arcturiann:
Yess, so true. Cancerians in general seem to have a bad rep, and it seems like most websites write so much more negative about cancer than positive. Cancerians really just want to nurture and give affection to people and they want to feel loved and needed :3

Gemini + Cancer is one of my favorite relationship duos! Maybe because my venus is in gem


So is his Though I have heard my fill about Venus in Gemini and Cancer Sun/Gemini Venus combo but that's a WHOLE other topic lol...

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Aries23Degrees
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posted September 30, 2014 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by arcturiann:

This video warmed my heart and made me wish for all those lost nurturing Cancer or Pisces males out there to be able to have an opportunity to nurture someone like this. I feel like there are so many of them that have grown this horrifying shell because of the society they live in for example in the US, they are looked down on for expressing that loving nature and it becomes repressed.

This is very ironic; given that the US is said to be under the Cancer zodiac sign(4 July).

But I think that the more "macho" traits of Cancer are applauded i.e kicking a** when challenged about your manhood etc.

The more "feminine" traits you describe are downplayed.It's true.

As a Cancer Moon guy,i express the feminine traits very easily. And it is not always easy because I get mixed reactions from both sexes.

Usually those who approve have some Taurus, Libra or Pisces in the mix. So they encourage these traits.

When i watched the video,it resonated with me a lot.I would do the exact same thing.

I don't like to see suffering and with my Neptune-Sun conjunct in Sag, it adds a strongly compassionate disposition to my nature.

Only that I try to make sense of all the suffering from a philosophical point of view.

Bravo to him!!

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posted September 30, 2014 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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arcturiann
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posted September 30, 2014 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
This is very ironic; given that the US is said to be under the Cancer zodiac sign(4 July).

But I think that the more "macho" traits of Cancer are applauded i.e kicking a** when challenged about your manhood etc.

The more "feminine" traits you describe are downplayed.It's true.

As a Cancer Moon guy,i express the feminine traits very easily. And it is not always easy because I get mixed reactions from both sexes.

Usually those who approve have some Taurus, Libra or Pisces in the mix. So they encourage these traits.

When i watched the video,it resonated with me a lot.I would do the exact same thing.

I don't like to see suffering and with my Neptune-Sun conjunct in Sag, it adds a strongly compassionate disposition to my nature.

Only that I try to make sense of all the suffering from a philosophical point of view.

Bravo to him!!


Yes that is quite ironic lol. I don't see the US as much of a cancerian country, it makes me wonder whether there could be an alternate earlier date for the conception/birth of the US as a country.

I am glad you enjoyed the video and can relate :3. I am a cancer sun and It resonated with me soo much. Since I was very little I always just wanted someone/thing to nurture. Cancerian affection can often be misplaced onto people who don't necessarily need or want to be coddled, hence having a reputation for being "clingy", but there are so many people people suffering out there emotionally and physically who would gladly accept being treated like they are loved and cared for.

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arcturiann
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posted September 30, 2014 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Vajra:
Great thread, arcturiann!

That's a very touching example and I'm sure the guy must have some Cancer/water influence somewhere!

Here is another example of a "nurturing" Cancerian male: Sir Edmund Hillary (*20 July 1919), who after his mountaineering and adventurer career became very active in humanitarian missions in Nepal. At the request of local people he befriended, he became active in founding schools and hospitals there, and this continues even after his death, as the site of his Himalayan Trust Foundation shows:

I especially like that he responded to what people actively asked for and needed, not what HE thought they needed.


Another great example! It's so humbling to see people who have become widely successful give back to a community like this.

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posted September 30, 2014 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see the US as Cancer: moody, more emotional than intellectual, paternalistic smothering and condescending (yes, Cancers can manifest this way, though not saying that all Cancers are), very charitable and caring in some ways but easily provoked into retreating into shells and private worlds when one doesn't get one's way (often brooding), and way too attached to political groups.

The Cancer sun I'm closest to reminds me of the US as a whole (generally speaking) in many ways. Loyal to family and all he embraced their racist and conservative leanings (which was the norm at the time). However, after his white friends left him to die and he was saved by a black man whom he'd said nasty racist things about behind his back to his white friends he changed (this was in the 1970s), and would eventually stand up to his family (making him an outcast) and extend tolerance to all groups not harming others and seeing bigotry as disgusting rather than admirable (which the US as a society was starting to do at the same time).

He's still ultra-patriotic (and defensive) and won't stand for anyone putting down the military (which he served in), though he did once warn me about the problem of rape and how it was treated in the Army as he feared I might join (funny) which tells me that despite his intense patriotic loyalty he's still aware of a dark underbelly, he's just very careful about not attacking the institution itself. He also subscribes to "jobism" a bit too much (essentially defining his worth by having a job, and no job can make him as miserable as not having one, and his royalties as an author don't count). All in all he's a representation of the United States.

Don't get me wrong, the man is admirable. The only reason I don't wish he was my father (which he sometimes acts like) is because I know I'd have probably driven him to a nervous breakdown given all my daredevil stunts as a child.

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posted September 30, 2014 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone else start bawling like a baby watching that video?

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arcturiann
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posted October 01, 2014 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geeky:
Anyone else start bawling like a baby watching that video?


Almost.. I think I became so galvanized and inspired by his passion that if tears were falling on my face I would not have noticed with how big my smile was

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Aries23Degrees
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posted October 01, 2014 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I see the US as Cancer: moody, more emotional than intellectual, paternalistic smothering and condescending ....

I agree that they seem very swayed by emotions and the whole "American dream" thing.

But then again,few other countries assert themselves as much as the US has(sometimes being called a "bully").

And so, it is likely that such a country would attract hatred and dislike from others.

I would understand why they would feel a need to stick together,be patriotic and "proudly" American etc.

The US also has Scorpio Ascending- so I think that's why so many counties have a very love/hate relationship with the US generally.

And I also wanted to add that racism, sexism, classicism,homophobia etc are all vile things but I consider them social "luxuries" that we are addicted to as a society.

If Aliens were to land and start attacking all of us and s** hits the fan, all of that will fall away. There will be no "you" and "me".. just "us".

I see crisis situations as always an opportunity for society to progress and the individual to change their minds about set belief systems and idea. We are all capable of loving/hateful acts. Not limited by colour,creed,religion or sex.

A "racist" gets stuck in a cave in with Chinese, Blacks, Indians and all sorts of people for a week.

She comes out saying that she managed to survive the ordeal with her "brothers and sisters" by her side. She has made friends for LIFE.

Bigotry is really an illusion.A deluded state of mind for a person who has a choice to feel and think the way that they feel and think.

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posted October 01, 2014 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is so uplifting to see, whatever his actual birthdate are

I feel especially uplifted because I have a cancer ascendant, cancer jupiter in 12th house and stellium in 4th house (sun, mercury and mars) - and pisces moon, scorpio venus so a lot of water!!

I like the idea of giving and sharing love to the world, but I also do admit that I have grown a shell around me and that my affection is not for everyone, because there are so many people out there who is not nice in return

Buuut I'll forget that one second and enjoy this vid

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posted October 02, 2014 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by arcturiann:

This video warmed my heart and made me wish for all those lost nurturing cancerian or piscean males out there to be able to have an opportunity to nurture someone like this. I feel like there are so many of them that have grown this horrifying shell because of the society they live in for example in the US, they are looked down on for expressing that loving nature and it becomes repressed.

Hope this made your day too![/B]


You make such a great point. Thank you for this thoughtful video. What a beautiful story. Coming from a Cancer rising, Pisces sun male...you're right about how we sometimes grow a shell, and for me, withdraw in times of trouble, only hiding the true qualities we know we have to give. It's frustrating sometimes, because I absorb my environment too easily and the expectations of others (without even realizing it). But everyone should follow their own compass really.

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arcturiann
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posted October 02, 2014 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:

I like the idea of giving and sharing love to the world, but I also do admit that I have grown a shell around me and that my affection is not for everyone, because there are so many people out there who is not nice in return

Buuut I'll forget that one second and enjoy this vid


Which is exactly why I love to get to see people with that sense of love able to give it freely like the man in this video . Loving nurturing people need to have an appropriate way to channel that expression! For some people like my mother, its through gardening, she treats her plants like little pets lol. For others its social work, charity, rescuing animals, etc. In this man's case he was a world class chef and he used his talent as a natural channel of loving expression towards others. For me I have found this through teaching and tutoring students

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posted October 02, 2014 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brendan34:
You make such a great point. Thank you for this thoughtful video. What a beautiful story. Coming from a Cancer rising, Pisces sun male...you're right about how we sometimes grow a shell, and for me, withdraw in times of trouble, only hiding the true qualities we know we have to give. It's frustrating sometimes, because I absorb my environment too easily and the expectations of others (without even realizing it). But everyone should follow their own compass really.

I know how hard it is to be so empathic, it almost feels like you have to have a constant poker face on. It's weird also to sometimes feel people's emotions when they are not so in touch with their own, almost like you could know something about them that they don't even realize about themselves. That was one thing I realized which helped me the most in "coming to" and accepting the fact that I was empathic, was realizing that my thoughts and feelings are not always necessarily my own, but are a reaction to my environment, and recognizing when it happens, so that I could ask myself "why am I feeling this way, and who or what is causing it", that way I can catch myself before I get too absorbed into something too far detached from what is true to me, if that makes sense.

You should know though that you probably have a tremendous capacity to heal those who have suffered from emotional abuse and abandonment

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