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Topic: Difference in Orbs: Tight vs. Wide?
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Nicole401 Knowflake Posts: 447 From: CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted October 02, 2014 07:22 PM
What is the major difference between a tighter aspect versus a wide(r) aspect?Say for example: A Venus conjunct Pluto in natal. One person having it within a degree, versus another one having it within 4-5 degrees and another having it within 7-8 degrees. They may all still be considered conjunct (depending on personal limits, of course) but how are they each felt - how is the aspect felt, the tighter it gets? How is it felt in synastry as well? Two couples having one same aspect, one couple whose aspect is tighter than the other, what would be the difference in which each couple feel the aspect? ** OR one person having the same aspect with two people. IP: Logged |
Gemini30 Knowflake Posts: 28 From: Los Angeles Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 02, 2014 08:27 PM
I believe for example if someones moon is at 10 degrees gemini and thier partner has a gemini mars at 25 degrees...the energy is there. However I also do believe the closer the better but going a bit past 10 degrees won't hurt anyone IP: Logged |
Gemini Blues Knowflake Posts: 257 From: The future... or the past. I get them confused... Registered: May 2014
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posted October 02, 2014 10:04 PM
My personal opinion, the tighter the orb, the higher the volume...IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 3029 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted October 02, 2014 10:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gemini Blues: My personal opinion, the tighter the orb, the higher the volume...
nice way to put it. IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 204 From: Miami, FL Registered: Nov 2013
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posted October 02, 2014 10:16 PM
You know what they say... The tighter the better <Insert Double Meaning> ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God."IP: Logged |
Nicole401 Knowflake Posts: 447 From: CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted October 03, 2014 12:36 AM
How is it felt though???? Like, I am having trouble actually "visualizing" the energy, etc.I can't imagine it "stronger" or "better" Help, anyone??? IP: Logged |
Blind writer Knowflake Posts: 331 From: Texas, USA Registered: May 2012
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posted October 03, 2014 01:17 AM
How about wording it differently - the tighter it is, the harder it is to ignore.IP: Logged |
Nicole401 Knowflake Posts: 447 From: CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted October 03, 2014 01:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by Blind writer: How about wording it differently - the tighter it is, the harder it is to ignore.
THAT actually makes much better sense. IP: Logged |
a_may_gemini Knowflake Posts: 339 From: Los Angeles, Calif Registered: Sep 2012
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posted October 03, 2014 06:21 AM
Well, according to traditional astrology, whatever the relationship between the house sign and planets in those houses get translated through the aspect as well. It doesn't matter the degrees, there's still strength between the planets in the houses that recognize each other. Granted, this has to do with the traditional 7 planets (Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus/Mars/Jupiter/Saturn)An example: 0º Aquarius Jupiter and 29º Libra Mercury, equates to Jupiter trine Mercury, even though by degrees it's technically Jupiter square Mercury. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 1156 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 03, 2014 08:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by a_may_gemini: Well, according to traditional astrology, whatever the relationship between the house sign and planets in those houses get translated through the aspect as well. It doesn't matter the degrees, there's still strength between the planets in the houses that recognize each other. Granted, this has to do with the traditional 7 planets (Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus/Mars/Jupiter/Saturn)An example: 0º Aquarius Jupiter and 29º Libra Mercury, equates to Jupiter trine Mercury, even though by degrees it's technically Jupiter square Mercury.
There is theory. And then there is application. Theoretically that is correct.But practically,the two planets in question enjoy a square. I can bear witness to that. I have come to notice that any time that a planet is in the same sign as my 4 cardinal point(Aries, Libra, Capricorn and Cancer)it is a time for "preparation" OR envisioning. As something IS coming. So say the Moon in Aries widely conjuncts my 1st house by 10 degrees(applying).The energy is still very much gaining momentum for when the two positions "meet". When they do "meet",a feeling of clarity happens.Almost like a new beginning starts to happen.As if a new perspective is gained. Once they "separate"- that is the Moon now going past the 1st house degree,ACTION to ratify the feeling of a "new beginning" happens. There is a great deal of urgency to "DO IT NOW" before time runs out etc. Marriages,Divorces,separations,moving in, moving out etc. all happen when planets are "separating" than applying. That is why people who have close to EXACT squares,conjunct,opposition,trine or sextile aspects tend to want results NOW. They have the urgency of a child because they fear the "inspiration" or enthusiasm will wilt away. Many are vivacious,energizing and restless. But also can be irritating,difficult to tie down and abrupt. So think of it like this Wide orb than is applying(PLANNING/ENVISIO NING phase) "I will think of something" OR "It would be nice to dance" etc. close to exact orb that is applying (INSPIRED/ENERGIZED) "I have an idea" OR "I am taking up dancing" etc. close to wide orb that is separating(ACTION) "this idea is working" or "dancing is so demanding" etc. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 6626 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 03, 2014 09:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: There is theory. And then there is application.Theoretically that is correct.But practically,the two planets in question enjoy a square. I can bear witness to that. I have come to notice that any time that a planet is in the same sign as my 4 cardinal point(Aries, Libra, Capricorn and Cancer)it is a time for "preparation" OR envisioning. As something IS coming. So say the Moon in Aries widely conjuncts my 1st house by 10 degrees(applying).The energy is still very much gaining momentum for when the two positions "meet". When they do "meet",a feeling of clarity happens.Almost like a new beginning starts to happen.As if a new perspective is gained. Once they "separate"- that is the Moon now going past the 1st house degree,ACTION to ratify the feeling of a "new beginning" happens. There is a great deal of urgency to "DO IT NOW" before time runs out etc. Marriages,Divorces,separations,moving in, moving out etc. all happen when planets are "separating" than applying. That is why people who have close to EXACT squares,conjunct,opposition,trine or sextile aspects tend to want results NOW. They have the urgency of a child because they fear the "inspiration" or enthusiasm will wilt away. Many are vivacious,energizing and restless. But also can be irritating,difficult to tie down and abrupt. So think of it like this Wide orb than is applying(PLANNING/ENVISIO NING phase) "I will think of something" OR "It would be nice to dance" etc. close to exact orb that is applying (INSPIRED/ENERGIZED) "I have an idea" OR "I am taking up dancing" etc. close to wide orb that is separating(ACTION) "this idea is working" or "dancing is so demanding" etc.
Great post, Aries! Marriages,Divorces,separations,moving in, moving out etc. all happen when planets are "separating" than applying.
I noticed that too ------------------
I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
Nicole401 Knowflake Posts: 447 From: CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted October 03, 2014 01:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: So think of it like thisWide orb than is applying(PLANNING/ENVISIO NING phase) "I will think of something" OR "It would be nice to dance" etc. close to exact orb that is applying (INSPIRED/ENERGIZED) "I have an idea" OR "I am taking up dancing" etc. close to wide orb that is separating(ACTION) "this idea is working" or "dancing is so demanding" etc.
So, in the natal, would the "stage" in which the aspect is in (applying, exact, separating) be fixed? Well, bot natal & synastry. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 1156 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 03, 2014 03:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nicole401: So, in the natal, would the "stage" in which the aspect is in (applying, exact, separating) be fixed? Well, bot natal & synastry.
Yes. The exact aspect really contributes to someone being a "maverick" personality. They simply "feel" inspired, pioneering and come up with ideas NOW.There is a strong sense of "urgency". eg. Moon in Cap 18Deg15 conjunct Mars in 18Deg45. The ones with the wide aspect(applying) give forethought and invest a lot of time in planning, imagining etc. They can be very powerful visionaries. eg Moon in Cap 18Deg15 conjunct Mars Cap 23Deg12 Those with the aspect separating(close and wide)tend to be more attuned to practical application.They want to "do" eg Moon in Cap 18Deg15 conjunct Mars Cap 15Deg01 IP: Logged | |