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PisceanDream
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posted October 05, 2014 01:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
Really, I think that book was pretty badly written but a Gemini Sun? I don't think so. If that is his actual birthday listed in the book, we have to wonder whether the author took the time to consider astrology (probably not) or just picked a random date. The Gemini Sun's I know are real charmers, which he is not, and would have taken a whole different approach. Sweet talking her into it instead of being very business like. That speaks of a Cap, IMHO. Perhaps some strong Aquarius in there too because of the strong detachment, though I guess that is true of all the air signs.

It was very horribly written. I was cringing at how mediocre the style was, I couldn't finish the book series because of how unbearable it was from a literary standpoint. Especially having read it after some Dostoevsky and Wilde, it was all the much more cringe-worthy. Yeah, he doesn't strike me as a Gem at all either. I do agree with the Cap/Aqua influence and severely afflicted Mars. Probably Mars sq/opposed by both Saturn and Pluto.

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PisceanDream
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posted October 05, 2014 01:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

When I looked at the style of writing and the theme. I thought that this author must have some Pisces placement because there is an obsession to want to "save" the stray.


I don't think the style of writing (especially) or theme is at all Piscean, perhaps Ana was painted in a very shadow Pisces/Neptune manner but that's about it. In fact it struck me as lacking so much creativity, literary prowess, and sentimentality that there couldn't have been a strong water influence, and there isn't given only the Sun/Jupiter conjunction which doesn't necessarily elaborate much on her artistic expression. As a heavy Piscean, I am extremely creative when it comes to writing and nothing like THAT. I, however, agree with the Sun-Jupiter conjunction interpretation you offered.

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KarmicMoon
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posted October 05, 2014 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even for a cheesy romance the writing was bad. Sad how it sold so many copies when there are other better books involving that theme. I would have thought better of that placement too. It was her first try though, with more experience she will probably improve.

The part I couldn't stand the most was that horrible Anastasia. Ugh! Just so wishy washy and NICE. She has to have strong Libra. I hate female characters that are push overs.

@Vajra
"The age of slavery has ended." . I hate it when people are so possessive their SO can't even go anywhere alone. My friend, a guy who is also my ex and in his forties, was telling me about some girl he went out with twice and she had to call this other girl he was friends with to make sure it was a legit friendship. I told him I thought that was crazy, that after two dates she was making demands about who his friends are and he should run far, far away.

Yes, all the signs are capable of cheating and there was no science here at all.

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PixieJane
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posted October 05, 2014 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
The part I couldn't stand the most was that horrible Anastasia. Ugh! Just so wishy washy and NICE. She has to have strong Libra. I hate female characters that are push overs

BS. I'm a Libra sun and stellium and no one would call me a pushover. And that makes sense given Libra is a cardinal sign. (Likewise, we're only nice half the time--all things in balance, and when our scales go out of balance we can become ogres. But when possible we do try to limit our contact with others when we're in a bad mood as that's not fair to others and being alone or with the right person somewhere nice is a good way to get our scales back into balance.)

Many people get confused because Libra takes a long time to pick a position or side and also tries to be fair. As this is not normal for other signs who don't bother to actually think before they "think" and prefer to be arbitrary rather than fair Libra is seen by others as fickle and even weak, but it's a misconception as they mistake strength for blustering (when blustering is sometimes a sign of weakness itself). Of course Libra expects to be treated fairly as well--balance in all things.

That said, Libra can go bad or become weak like any other sign. I have known one Libra to submit in total slavery to another who wasn't even rich or good looking (but I blame that on her Scorpio stellium that became self-destructive through extreme childhood and religious abuse) and I know of at least one Libra fan of 50SoG. But if Christian Gray were to try some of that crap on me that he did on Anastasia then he'd risk an early grave (if he's that rich then I don't expect the law to deal with him right but OTOH I know someone like that HAS to have enemies, so literal murder would definitely be an option I'd consider--but being Libra I'd think it through first, assuming I had that luxury, and if I did it I'd consider it a good deed as much as "proactive" self-defense)...though I expect he'd have enough sense not to get that close to me as his early testing/grooming of me would show him I wouldn't be one of his playthings (assuming that didn't make him want me more, in which case maybe he actually had a death wish, and he certainly proved himself a menace).

ETA: Just to be clear, Christian Gray is clearly abusive and if he were a real life character rather than a masochist's fantasy (who can safely be put away when convenient by the one fantasizing about him, in fact no matter how much he "masters" her he's doing exactly what she wants him to do as it's her fantasy, not his) then he'd be a menace, for those who aren't aware of that. It shocks me some on LL don't realize this about him, but it's clear as day to me (maybe because I'm a Libra, or maybe just because I have a spine with some self-respect).

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posted October 05, 2014 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The pain / anger from cheating comes from the deception, IMO. If no one had to lie by engaging in open relationships and it was an "all you can boink" buffet, there would be no reason to deceive.

Totally random opinion.

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KarmicMoon
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posted October 05, 2014 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Easy Pixie, it's obvious I'm just stereotyping, lol! I'm a Cancer/Virgo, we are constantly getting bashed on here! Some of my best friends are Libra.

Yes, in true BDSM the submissive is always in control, if not, that is abuse.

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posted October 05, 2014 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Based on his birthday, Christian Grey is a Gemini Sun for sure. So...

EDIT: That was out of memory because I remember intriguing over the fact he was a Gem. His full birthday is June 18, 1983 Detroit, MI. Gonna check it out... This should be interesting. Gotta guess the ASC though.


I doubt a Gemini with all that air would do half the things Dorian Grey did. Though I've only heard of the stories, never read one.

I'm assuming the author didn't consul with an astrologer before choosing his birthdate.

Gemini-Libra, Mars in Gemini.

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PixieJane
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posted October 05, 2014 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geeky:
The pain / anger from cheating comes from the deception, IMO. If no one had to lie by engaging in open relationships and it was an "all you can boink" buffet, there would be no reason to deceive

True enough, at least for me. Cheating means breaking the rules/agreement. Cheating can also be done in polyamrous relationships of all sorts, btw, assuming some ground rules have been put in place (by violating the agreement the person is cheating).

As for me, I couldn't be in a long term fully open "all you can boink" relationship, but if he (or she) said that was the condition from the beginning then that person would not be a cheater in my eyes because s/he had not betrayed any trust (assuming this condition was stated from the beginning) or broken any agreement.

I've been cheated on before...and the deception was what hurt the most. Heck, I'd caught earlier cheating and offered to make our relationship more open but that wouldn't work for my selfish partner who wanted to cheat while I remained monogamous. The next time I caught it was the last.

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