posted October 06, 2014 06:26 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
I'd love to see her Aries Moon's reaction to what you've posted.

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posted October 06, 2014 07:28 AM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
I think it depends on how well you know the person. The moon is the inner core that you only get to know when you are close to the person, or when you see them react emotionally. If you have a more emotional relationship with someone, they will seem like only their moon.

My boyfriend is an Aries moon, yes, they are difficult lol. He is so naive but sure of himself and throws a tantrum for everything. your description cracked me up because that kinda describes my boyfriend if I wanna be harsh lol. But to me, it's adorable. Probably because he's my boyfriend haha. He never sees anything coming until it smacks him in the face so I have to look out for him. He's a Pisces sun so he relies on his intuition but it's pretty much always wrong. For some reason my intuition is usually right and he ends up mad because he thinks I'm putting him down! He is very arrogantly self confident and I think that is why he is so naive too. Add that to his Pisces delusions and h just belives everything to be the way he thinks they are. I have to be the one that cleans up the mess x.x

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posted October 06, 2014 07:52 AM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
I think it depends on how well you know the person. The moon is the inner core that you only get to know when you are close to the person, or when you see them react emotionally. If you have a more emotional relationship with someone, they will seem like only their moon.

My boyfriend is an Aries moon, yes, they are difficult lol. He is so naive but sure of himself and throws a tantrum for everything. your description cracked me up because that kinda describes my boyfriend if I wanna be harsh lol. But to me, it's adorable. Probably because he's my boyfriend haha. He never sees anything coming until it smacks him in the face so I have to look out for him. He's a Pisces sun so he relies on his intuition but it's pretty much always wrong. For some reason my intuition is usually right and he ends up mad because he thinks I'm putting him down! He is very arrogantly self confident and I think that is why he is so naive too. Add that to his Pisces delusions and h just belives everything to be the way he thinks they are. I have to be the one that cleans up the mess x.x

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What you described above - it's actually the influence of the Sun (your inner-core). Our inner-core needs a somehow familiar audience - to shine (for us to be capable of self-expression - or as some like to put it "to show our true nature"). The Moon influence manifests in any context, since - it defines our emotional nature in relation to anything (anything that implies interaction/reaction). Maybe we don't always act upon our feelings - but we always feel nonetheless. The Sun on the other hand - is more defining for a predefined identity (set of traits) - like the one of an animal from a certain specie - which is suppose to show "how" we express our-selves - our emotions (the Moon influence) - in a place where it feels (the Moon influence - is what dictates if it's safe to come out - if it's safe to remove the Masc or the outer-shell known as the ASC) - comfortable to shine.

I can agree that - someone with an Aries Moon influence can be really naive sometimes - at least - emotionally speaking (acts first - thinks latter). Might pick the worst moments to give the signal of safety - to your inner-core (Sun) - and that can place you in a vulnerable/uncomfortable position/situation.

posted October 06, 2014 11:24 AM            

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Originally posted by wheresthemoon:
Neptune isn't just creativity and psychic ability and dreaminess. It's also gullibility, delusion, confusion, elusiveness, and blurred boundaries. I think her mercury on hard aspect to Neptune could have some of the effects you described.

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posted October 06, 2014 12:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
I am starting to think so. An ex friend of mine sucks literally sucks at reading people/situations accuratly. She is so naive its on the border of being stupid. I always thought this was a bit "weird" bc she has a cancer mercury venus, neptune opposites her mercury and pluto trines it and mars and ascendant in virgo trine neptune and sun square pluto, moon in the 8th house and sun in the 12th house and even with that much "water" affect she still is bad at reading/picking up the subtle. She belives in everything that "seems to be" but really isn`t. And i always wondered where does this naivity come from and then i see she has not only her moon in aries but mars and jupiter opposites it and venus squares it and when i read about venus square moon it was her to a T.I can also see the jupiter in her bc she likes to "joke" serious matters away and can be overtly optimistic, and i also see the aries/mars affect she can be so self-confident its on the border of being arrogant and this arrogance is the major reason why i think she is incridibly naive bc she thinks too highly of herself so she never "see" something coming until it hits her in the face.You have to be really obvious with her for her to understand or "see" something.She is not self-aware at all, like she thinks she is a mystery when she`s actually is an open book, she thinks she`s being smart when she`s actually being stupid, she thinks she convinces people with something when no one belives her, she thinks a guy likes her when he`s not even interested in her etc.She has more of the bad qualities of this moon sign and the aspects to it than the posetive ones. I am starting to belive the moon can actually "overshadow" the other planets in a persons personality bc she isn`t the only experience i have seen that the moon takes over.

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I think you just have bad experiences with your friend. Ellen has aries moon, ...

I do too and I think it is a strong moon. Definitely act first, think later. But aries moon people are also very competitive, and in order to be competitive, one has to pay attention to things.

I normally joke around until someone challenges me and then I am all game on and become very serious about winning.

With that said, aspects, the whole chart and synastry should be taken into account. My mars is in Capricorn and with the Taurus ASC, it is rare that someone can actually anger me to the point of explosion. Although I would still have the typical aries moon response.

Another thing I have noticed is that the Cap Neptune/Uranus generation yield strange Cancerian. Perhaps because they already feel so much.

posted October 07, 2014 06:37 AM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
I think you just have bad experiences with your friend. Ellen has aries moon, ...

I do too and I think it is a strong moon. Definitely act first, think later. But aries moon people are also very competitive, and in order to be competitive, one has to pay attention to things.

I normally joke around until someone challenges me and then I am all game on and become very serious about winning.

With that said, aspects, the whole chart and synastry should be taken into account. My mars is in Capricorn and with the Taurus ASC, it is rare that someone can actually anger me to the point of explosion. Although I would still have the typical aries moon response.

Another thing I have noticed is that the Cap Neptune/Uranus generation yield strange Cancerian. Perhaps because they already feel so much.

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Yeah but what i think arians need to learn is to know what a competition is and not "suddenly" start competing with another person that isnt in a competition with them but they deceided to just be in a competition with that person.This is also something i have noticed about strongly influenced mars/aries people, if they feel "threatened" or get jealous at another person for whatever reason(and alot of times i have seen its actually have been a stupid reason) they automatically start competing with that person and starts being unfriendly towards that person even though that person haven`t done something directly to them.I have also noticed that strongly influenced arians/mars people get easily jealous of friends even siblings if they think that person have/is better at them with something.Its like they are almost incapable of being happy for another person for doing something good or having something good because they treat almost everything as a "competition" and they get rather jealous instead of being happy for that person.They can also give out compliments easily to people they dont see as "competition" but people they see as "competition" oh goodness sakes its almost painful for them to give out a compliment to that person.I have had alot of experiences with arians/mars individuals and this is the behaviour i experience from them every time. Its not always it shows in the beginning but gosh it comes more and more out later on.

posted October 07, 2014 09:35 AM            

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Originally posted by starmoon:
what if the person has a stellium? i have a stellium of 7 planets all conjunct in the same sign so the moon doesn't get 'heard' much. or, i ignore it in favor of the planet ruling that stellium. the moon is not always the strongest if something else in the natal - stellium, opposition, square, etc. - affects it. water doesn't equal = able to pick up emotions or read people. i have a water planet/neptune right on my ASC and sadly have the same problem with being naive. water is more about empathy.

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posted October 07, 2014 03:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
Yeah but what i think arians need to learn is to know what a competition is and not "suddenly" start competing with another person that isnt in a competition with them but they deceided to just be in a competition with that person.This is also something i have noticed about strongly influenced mars/aries people, if they feel "threatened" or get jealous at another person for whatever reason(and alot of times i have seen its actually have been a stupid reason) they automatically start competing with that person and starts being unfriendly towards that person even though that person haven`t done something directly to them.I have also noticed that strongly influenced arians/mars people get easily jealous of friends even siblings if they think that person have/is better at them with something.Its like they are almost incapable of being happy for another person for doing something good or having something good because they treat almost everything as a "competition" and they get rather jealous instead of being happy for that person.They can also give out compliments easily to people they dont see as "competition" but people they see as "competition" oh goodness sakes its almost painful for them to give out a compliment to that person.I have had alot of experiences with arians/mars individuals and this is the behaviour i experience from them every time. Its not always it shows in the beginning but gosh it comes more and more out later on.

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Again, this is taken the whole chart in account and synastry. If you do not get along with heavy-arian people, it's not gonna go away. The truth is every moon sign needs to take certain types of advices because there are pros and cons.

Ive seen both good and bad sides of my moon. But a strong mars, however, doesn't back off from challenges and do not become jealous unless heavily afflicted Aries/Scorpio/Cap mars know themselves.

posted October 07, 2014 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
I'm a Cancer moon and I don't know off the top of my head but oposite sun, square mars, trine Pluto. There were a few sextiles but don't remeber specifcally.

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posted October 07, 2014 05:54 PM            

That being said, not all Moons (planets, for that matter) are built the same.

My Moon is in Pisces, and generally, Pisces Moon people are sweet, docile, intuitive, and deeply sensitive. I don't deny any of those traits, but my Moon is in late Pisces degrees which fall in Saturn's term and Mars decan.

What this does is add an extra dimension of "toughness" and maybe even an attack layer (for a lack of better words) to my Moon. Normally, Pisces Moon will run away from adversaries. If I feel emotionally pushed aside, or abused in some way, I will wage war and I'll get satisfaction. That's not to say I won't get wiped out and totally shut down because Pisces Moon by default cannot handle harshness very well, but I am very willing to deplete my energies and senses just to go to war. Because I do have Pisces Moon, I do have strong sense of mercy and forgiveness, but NOT before I wage war and have a blood bath.

posted October 07, 2014 06:30 PM            

Like it or not though, my moon sign has a huge effect on me. Its what causes me to stay up till the wee hours of the morning and investigate whatever it is that I'm interested in at the time. Its what causes me to continue to do the same things over and over without me realizing it (as it is for all of us). Since I have a water moon, my intuition is pretty strong and I'm really empathtic too which sucks if I don't actively create boundaries.

I think though, that the moon sign is more important for girls than it is for guys as it is the feminine aspect. The sun appears to be more of an influence on men (though, again, this is just a generality). What really matters is the aspects making to either planet and where they are located in the chart.

posted October 08, 2014 11:44 AM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
Again, this is taken the whole chart in account and synastry. If you do not get along with heavy-arian people, it's not gonna go away. The truth is every moon sign needs to take certain types of advices because there are pros and cons.

Ive seen both good and bad sides of my moon. But a strong mars, however, doesn't back off from challenges and do not become jealous unless heavily afflicted Aries/Scorpio/Cap mars know themselves.

Maybe you should not hang out with these people because their synastry with you would just be bad...

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I have known this girl since i was little so when one is little.. well, one usually dont choose wisely, hehe. And like i said earlier its not always it shows in the beginning but it always comes out later on and that is where the annoyence comes out.I think they should chill a tad bit with the competition streak and stop being jealous out of stupid reasons.But yeah your right, i dont get along with strongly influenced arian/mars people. Its like we talk two different languages.