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Topic: Killing Pluto
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Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 641 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted October 14, 2014 05:11 PM
Is it possible for someone with a very, VERY Plutonian chart to live happily with someone who is not? I am a Scorpio with my Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, and Pluto in Scorpio (stellium in my 6th house) Scorpio is on my Descendant and rules my 7th house.
Mars is also conjunct Pluto & on the cusp of my 7th house in 1st degree Sagittarius.
Pluto is conjunct my deacendant. Mars is conjunct my descendant, I find that Im not satisfied with someone unless they awaken my passionate, intense side. Im not very attracted to people who only bring out neutral feelings out of me. If a person's energy or aura doesn't literally consume me, I'm not interested. As I gain more experience with relationships, I'm finding that this is not always healthy.. Being insanely attracted to someone isn't healthy.. or if someone brings out your most passionate side, this isn't always healthy either. is pluto always the bad guy?
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Dancing Maenad Moderator Posts: 1969 From: The Harvest Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 14, 2014 05:47 PM
While I agree that some behaviors can be a little detrimental, I don't believe it is healthy to kill any part of yourself. It will never lead to true happiness - how could it? Wouldn't it be better to just join with your kind of "crazy"? I mean "crazy" as in what makes you unique, not actual crazy. Trust me, there are loads of people who appreciate and seek intensity in their relationships, you'd be in high demand. And no, Pluto is not bad. No planet/aspect/placement is ever just bad or just good. It's what you make of it that makes it.. let's say to your benefit or to your detriment. ------------------ ~the raving one dancing in the nude~ IP: Logged |
next to neptune Knowflake Posts: 2165 From: The Moon Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 14, 2014 05:52 PM
As it can be hard for you to be with someone "not plutonian", it can be equal hard for someone with no important pluto to be with such an intense person... cause the person might not really "get" all that intensity, and they might not be capable of saying "no". With time they will feel strangled by the plutonian person who gives no air. Plutonian people are kinda a bit too much to handle, really. They also gotta learn to control themselves a little bit. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 745 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 14, 2014 06:23 PM
Heya, Yanmorg.First things first. You're clearly quite young, with PLUTO at 1º SAG. So, as a mid-thirtysomething with an arse-tonne of PLUTO herself, my best advice is -- don't sweat it. We don't begin to uncover our true Plutonian energy until we've cleared our first SATURN Return. A lot of this is due to the fact that tPLUTO is beginning to make its first square to our nPLUTO (around age 40). The thirties are then a VERY significant time of development (and, in many cases, total transformation) for a Plutonian. Undoubtedly, you'll go through many periods of 'reinvention' throughout your life -- especially if PLUTO is conjunct your SUN. For me, it was 16, then again at 21, and again at 30. Also, the 'all-consuming' Plutonian nature, along with the extremes and desire for them, is also all just part and parcel. Something you grow out of (or, more truthfully, learn to sublimate and properly channel) over time. Better question is, do you find yourself drawn to the particular type of partner again and again? If so, what do those relationships tend to feature? As these, of course, are there in order to bring certain lessons, types of experience, and growth. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 745 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 14, 2014 06:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by next to neptune: As it can be hard for you to be with someone "not plutonian", it can be equal hard for someone with no important pluto to be with such an intense person... cause the person might not really "get" all that intensity, and they might not be capable of saying "no". With time they will feel strangled by the plutonian person who gives no air. Plutonian people are kinda a bit too much to handle, really. They also gotta learn to control themselves a little bit.
Exactly. Just exactly that. IP: Logged |
Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 641 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted October 14, 2014 06:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Heya, Yanmorg.First things first. You're clearly quite young, with PLUTO at 1º SAG. So, as a mid-thirtysomething with an arse-tonne of PLUTO herself, my best advice is -- don't sweat it. We don't begin to uncover our true Plutonian energy until we've cleared our first SATURN Return. A lot of this is due to the fact that tPLUTO is beginning to make its first square to our nPLUTO (around age 40). The thirties are then a VERY significant time of development (and, in many cases, total transformation) for a Plutonian. Undoubtedly, you'll go through many periods of 'reinvention' throughout your life -- especially if PLUTO is conjunct your SUN. For me, it was 16, then again at 21, and again at 30. Also, the 'all-consuming' Plutonian nature, along with the extremes and desire for them, is also all just part and parcel. Something you grow out of (or, more truthfully, learn to sublimate and properly channel) over time. Better question is, do you find yourself drawn to the particular type of partner again and again? If so, what do those relationships tend to feature? As these, of course, are there in order to bring certain lessons, types of experience, and growth.
My Mars is at 1 degree Sagittarius. My Mars is conjunct my pluto on my 7th house cusp. sorry for the mix up. I am still young though. I'll be 21 next month! IP: Logged |
Gemini30 Knowflake Posts: 51 From: Los Angeles Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 14, 2014 07:02 PM
Take my advice: Find a fellow Plutonian to share your life with. Seriously. If you try to share your life with a non-plutonian you'll eventually make that person run far, far, far, far, far away. Non plutonians just don't understand those Pluto feelings. IP: Logged |
Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 641 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted October 16, 2014 07:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gemini30: Take my advice: Find a fellow Plutonian to share your life with. Seriously. If you try to share your life with a non-plutonian you'll eventually make that person run far, far, far, far, far away. Non plutonians just don't understand those Pluto feelings.
Does that apply to individual's with Pluto oppositions as well? My biggest heartbreak was from a Taurus Sun/ Moon who had both planets opposing pluto. He also had Venus and Mars in Cancer with Venus opposing uranus. His Taurus moon was also trine uranus. I'm guessing his uranus overpowered his pluto? I bring him into the equation because he was my ideal mate in almost every aspect, but my intensify was too much for him. I can tell my intensity made him very uncomfortable at times. One day, he left without a trace until 8 months later. When I asked him why he just randomly cut all contact, he said I was too involved.. I thought he was very Plutonian. We also had Sun/Pluto aspects in dynasty double whammy. (Conjunction/opposition). I'm guessing people with pluto oppositions do not want to face that part of themselves, but they inevitably attract Plutonian types. After he dumped me, he recently started dating a very young girl who's still in high school. I guess he figured the younger the girl, the less committed I had to be.. haha IP: Logged |
Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 641 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted October 16, 2014 07:55 AM
Would a Cancer man suffice? A Cancer with uranus in aspect to his sun and venus specifivally? square to his moon and he has the trine to his venus.IP: Logged |
Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 641 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted October 16, 2014 08:00 AM
Do you think someone needs as much pluto as me to satisfy all my intensity or can they have at least one pluto aspect to a personal planet?IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 3110 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted October 16, 2014 11:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by Yanmorg: Do you think someone needs as much pluto as me to satisfy all my intensity or can they have at least one pluto aspect to a personal planet?
Not necessarily. Maybe some aspect or a Scorpio placement (I like Venus ) I don't think they need to be, they just need to "get it". Understand you and know what you need and why you are how you are. Two Plutonian people, truly plutonic... Idk. That could get scary! Imo IP: Logged |
Gemini30 Knowflake Posts: 51 From: Los Angeles Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 16, 2014 12:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by Yanmorg: Does that apply to individual's with Pluto oppositions as well?My biggest heartbreak was from a Taurus Sun/ Moon who had both planets opposing pluto. He also had Venus and Mars in Cancer with Venus opposing uranus. His Taurus moon was also trine uranus. I'm guessing his uranus overpowered his pluto? I bring him into the equation because he was my ideal mate in almost every aspect, but my intensify was too much for him. I can tell my intensity made him very uncomfortable at times. One day, he left without a trace until 8 months later. When I asked him why he just randomly cut all contact, he said I was too involved.. I thought he was very Plutonian. We also had Sun/Pluto aspects in dynasty double whammy. (Conjunction/opposition). I'm guessing people with pluto oppositions do not want to face that part of themselves, but they inevitably attract Plutonian types. After he dumped me, he recently started dating a very young girl who's still in high school. I guess he figured the younger the girl, the less committed I had to be.. haha
I made a thread the other day on people with scorpio moons and venus/uranus aspects. Alot of the responses I got were basically they crave intimacy but also want their space In your case, your ex had venus opp uranus so he needed his space from you, however I believe that those Scorpionic aspects will always be more powerful for women than men. From what I can tell from your ex is that his Venus opp uranus is highly activated but Im willing to bet he still misses you alot, despite going for the younger girl.
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 2457 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted October 16, 2014 02:57 PM
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