posted October 15, 2014 02:27 PM            

I am thinking about astrological relation to this...

posted October 16, 2014 07:46 AM            

I don't want to read about this, it hits a little too close to home.

posted October 16, 2014 08:04 AM            

Dejanira conjunct Neptune and Karma, exact sextile to Pluto. Victim karma. So, so sad..

posted October 16, 2014 08:40 AM            

T-Mars in Aries opp n-Pluto. Quincunx n-Mars.

t-Sun conj n-Dejanira
Possibly t-Moon conj n-Nessus depending on the time it happened.
T-Venus conj t-Dejanira conjunct n-Mars
T-Jupiter opp n-Sun, Dejanira (separating)
T-Saturn (and widely Uranus) sq n-Pluto
T-Pluto quincunx n-Chiron
t-Chiron sq n-Pluto..
t-Nessus sq n-Nessus.

I've spent more than a half an hour looking at the horrible pictures on the Internet. I'm nauseated.

posted October 16, 2014 06:09 PM            

I just read through that link you posted.. I didn't know those horrible details, the version I read was much lighter, if that was possible.

I wanted to stay away, I'm pretty impressionable and have a history of abuse myself. But her Dejanira is exactly opposed my Karma.. Poor little soul.

posted October 18, 2014 08:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
She has a natal Mars-Pluto semisextile. I never thought semisextiles are that powerful. For those who don't know the "fame" of the natal Mars-Pluto - http://www.pinterest.com/pin/560557484840001885/
There was a longer article, I can't seem to find it. Part of me is relieved.

T-Mars in Aries opp n-Pluto. Quincunx n-Mars.

t-Sun conj n-Dejanira
Possibly t-Moon conj n-Nessus depending on the time it happened.
T-Venus conj t-Dejanira conjunct n-Mars
T-Jupiter opp n-Sun, Dejanira (separating)
T-Saturn (and widely Uranus) sq n-Pluto
T-Pluto quincunx n-Chiron
t-Chiron sq n-Pluto..
t-Nessus sq n-Nessus.

I've spent more than a half an hour looking at the horrible pictures on the Internet. I'm nauseated.

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Thanks DM. It is such a horrible and sad story, I can`t even begin to make it about Astrology.
God bless her soul.

posted December 07, 2014 11:57 AM            

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Originally posted by neptunicity:
Oh, what is your sun sign? I'm a Pisces sun and moon, and I cried over her suffering the whole day, as if I personally knew her. Would love to take a look at the charts of those boys to see what negative aspects in their chart that suggest, or in this case, confirm cruelty and callousness. Sadly, those boys are all free now since they turned 30, and have even had relationships! I wonder if their gf's even knew of their past crime..

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I'm aqua sun.

posted December 07, 2014 01:13 PM            

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Originally posted by neptunicity:
Oh, what is your sun sign? I'm a Pisces sun and moon, and I cried over her suffering the whole day, as if I personally knew her. Would love to take a look at the charts of those boys to see what negative aspects in their chart that suggest, or in this case, confirm cruelty and callousness. Sadly, those boys are all free now since they turned 30, and have even had relationships! I wonder if their gf's even knew of their past crime..

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I'm a Pisces Moon too. Sadly, I had not heard of this story before coming across this thread, and reading up on it made me so ill in the stomach. No one deserves to mutilated and die a slow, painful death for no reason. An innocent young girl should never have a life ended so brutally.

This has got to be one of the worst things I have ever read. As I read through the various torture methods the boys used, I stared at screen in horror and tried not to cry. The fact the boys who did this did not receive a life sentence appalls me. This is why I don't believe in a just God (not sorry, get over it), because why would he let some young girl be treated like this.

posted December 07, 2014 04:44 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
I'm aqua sun.

My venus conjunct neptune by 0.02 degree and is my chart ruler. Neptune is also trining my asc

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Oh an Aqua sun. I'm an Aqua ascendant. :-)

With Neptune aspecting your Venus and ascendant I hope you aren't prone to deception from other people.

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
I'm a Pisces Moon too. Sadly, I had not heard of this story before coming across this thread, and reading up on it made me so ill in the stomach. No one deserves to mutilated and die a slow, painful death for no reason. An innocent young girl should never have a life ended so brutally.

This has got to be one of the worst things I have ever read. As I read through the various torture methods the boys used, I stared at screen in horror and tried not to cry. The fact the boys who did this did not receive a life sentence appalls me. This is why I don't believe in a just God (not sorry, get over it), because why would he let some young girl be treated like this.

I just do not understand why, why do people commit such heinous crimes? What do you personally gain by inflicting such cruelty onto others. I cannot even describe those boys as human, to me they are monsters.

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I know, right? When I first heard it, I looked at the radio and said, "What?" I was really surprised at the horrendousness of it all.

The whole reincarnation thing is unfair to begin with. Why pay for the wrongdoings that you had no idea to begin with, right? I remember a psychic said that she talks to her guides, and she said that the rules "up there" are not fair at all, and due to time constraints (it was a paranormal radio show)she did not expound on that and just said that "we aren't ready for what we are about to find out". I would so like to ask God about this when I die. It isn't fair! Junko must have been a Roman sadist emperor during the BC or AD era that took delight in killing people using lions in stadiums in front of a cheering crowd to suffer this horrible death? Who knows, right?

posted December 07, 2014 04:59 PM            

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Why pay for the wrongdoings that you had no idea to begin with, right? I remember a psychic said that she talks to her guides, and she said that the rules "up there" are not fair at all, and due to time constraints (it was a paranormal radio show) she did not expound on that and just said that "we aren't ready for what we are about to find out".

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You know, just because reincarnation is a thing it doesn't mean that we have to or even should do it. Some spirtits might be manipulated into coming back here by other spirits.

posted December 08, 2014 08:14 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
[QUOTE]Why pay for the wrongdoings that you had no idea to begin with, right? I remember a psychic said that she talks to her guides, and she said that the rules "up there" are not fair at all, and due to time constraints (it was a paranormal radio show) she did not expound on that and just said that "we aren't ready for what we are about to find out".

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Well, she was just answering questions from the text line when she said that. They were discussing a different topic, but I would also love to hear what she was referring to.

And what other spirits? Are they good or bad spirits? This article also explains that we choose when and who to reincarnate in: http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/05/what-happens-when-you-die/ so I'm taking a guess that Junko's higher self made that choice, but also free will contributed to the events leading to her death.

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Originally posted by theunknown:
I don't have the heart to think this ordeal is reincarnation ...

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I think it may be a mix of past life karma and bad luck due to people's free will. The transits also triggered the event. I'm more puzzled and bothered as to why God allows such evil, gruesome things to happen.

posted December 08, 2014 06:59 PM            

As horrible as this is - I no longer allow myself to be empathetic, only sympathetic - when I hear about horror stories. I believe everyone has their own path to walk and if you get so sucked into another person's life experience you are no longer 100% present in your own life.
I'm also Neptunian and I used to get sucked in but I've learned that actually I am neither God nor Jesus Christ and since I cannot go back in time or alter the course of events - my empathy/identifying with the victim, would only serve to harm me and be of -zero- help to anyone else.

I also think very much so, that we all have a responsibility to be kind to ourselves and take care of ourselves - as much as we should do our best to be kind and fair towards others. Learning this has been a theme in my life because of my Taurus/Scorpio NN-SN axis (conjunct my Venus-Pluto opposition).