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posted October 17, 2014 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for socialgraffiti     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am curious to how your emotions/internal state function. I am most interested in Gemini moon, but all air moons are welcome

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tgem
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posted October 17, 2014 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini moon in the 12th...unaspected.

They don't. We analyze our feelings rather than feel our feelings. We are not in touch with our feelings.

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posted October 17, 2014 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for socialgraffiti     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tgem:
Gemini moon in the 12th...unaspected.

They don't. We analyze our feelings rather than feel our feelings. We are not in touch with our feelings.


I have a good friend with that exact placement. He says that he often feels little empathy for his actions, but is flooded with emotion randomly. Does that apply to you as well?

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posted October 17, 2014 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScandinavianCrab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tgem:
Gemini moon in the 12th...unaspected.

They don't. We analyze our feelings rather than feel our feelings. We are not in touch with our feelings.


I've got my Gemini moon in 9th house, opposite Neptune in Sagittarius (5 degree orb), and i must only say that i relate very much to this.

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posted October 17, 2014 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini moon in 9th here aspecting mars/mercury in 12th.

I agree.
I DO feel, and powerfully. But, it almost seems that the bigger the reason to feel, the less I do. I'll get emotional about little things sometimes.
But I analyze the crap out of them. Apply logic and reason to justify if I should feel them.
There's this strange ability to simply shut them off, a lot of the time.

Maybe my Leo... But I very often just absorb setbacks. I'm healthy... Alive... Everything will be OK.

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posted October 17, 2014 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Gemini moon in 9th here aspecting mars/mercury in 12th.

I agree.
I DO feel, and powerfully. But, it almost seems that the bigger the reason to feel, the less I do. I'll get emotional about little things sometimes.
But I analyze the crap out of them. Apply logic and reason to justify if I should feel them.
There's this strange ability to simply shut them off, a lot of the time.

Maybe my Leo... But I very often just absorb setbacks. I'm healthy... Alive... Everything will be OK.


Every single word said here.

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posted October 17, 2014 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yellowelevator     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this exact placement, Gem in the 12th. Despite the general consensus regarding Air Moons/12th house, I definitely DO feel. Like, very strongly sometimes that it can be too over-powering. My emotions run deep and strong, I just simply don't let them be known to others except maybe a select few that I can trust.

I do most of my brooding alone and let myself cry and everything, let it all out. But I won't deny that I can detach from them rather quickly. I don't typically sit and brood for hours and hours and resist talking to anyone. Once it's all out, I may suddenly act like nothing happened and go about my business. This is done alone though. I conceal most of my emotions though I don't come across as a heartless person.

If I'm upset in front of people, you'll either know it or you won't. It all depends on if I feel comfortable letting my guard down in front of you. If I don't, good luck trying to decipher how I truly feel, because I'll either be too embarrassed to show it or I won't want to cause a stir. Like Gemini's mutable nature, I tend to be chameleon-like and 'change' depending on whom I'm around. If you're this person, you might get this. If you're that person, you might get that.

I do tend to intellectualize/analyze my emotions and situations, only to try to make sense of why I'm feeling the way I do. But I do think I feel at the same time. I'm not 100% detached. I know when I'm upset/mad. More often than not I will ask myself, "but WHY are you feeling that way?" Because my emotions can be quite an enigma to myself.

If I am detaching from my emotions, it's only because they are too strong and I don't want to feel so much pain, so they get cut off and I move on.

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posted October 17, 2014 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^^

Very nicely put!

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posted October 17, 2014 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12th house Libra moon. I also have sun, mercury and Jupiter there as well.

Not sure what it is, if it even has anything to do with my chart exactly, but I've always felt this strong urge to help everyone else and completely shut off and ignore my own emotions. I tend to feel what everyone else is feeling and it makes dealing with my own incredbly diffucult. My emotions have always felt more extreme and out of the norm, completely overwhelming when all you think about is everyone else.

My entire life I've dealt with some pretty big blows that lead me to feeling completely numb, unable to express how I ever felt because I truly had no clue. I'd go from one extreme to the next within minutes and never felt that I could truly trust another person to open up to. Regardless of the many people I could've turned to I didn't. I shut them off and dealt with them when I was ready, it's the only thing that works for me.

I don't like ever giving other people the opportunity to see me sweat. When I'm stressed or upset I suck it up and go back to it later if it really meant that much to me. I have this constant need to forever be strong and letting others see me upset makes me feel incredibly vulnerable and weak, which in return makes it even more upsetting for me. I'm not a selfish person and would rather take the burden off of another person then they deal with it themselves. Anger however is a totally different subject for me.

I value privacy and secrecy, my feelings are my privacy and my secrets. As I've gotten older I've opened up more but have never fully exposed that part of myself. There's only one person who knows and I like to keep it that way.

Hope this makes sense and gives you an idea.

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astrolady83
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posted October 17, 2014 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolady83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12th house moon in libra.

It conj my pluto and asc in scorpio.

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PisceanDream
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posted October 17, 2014 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yellowelevator:
I have this exact placement, Gem in the 12th. Despite the general consensus regarding Air Moons/12th house, I definitely DO feel. Like, very strongly sometimes that it can be too over-powering. My emotions run deep and strong, I just simply don't let them be known to others except maybe a select few that I can trust.

I do most of my brooding alone and let myself cry and everything, let it all out. But I won't deny that I can detach from them rather quickly. I don't typically sit and brood for hours and hours and resist talking to anyone. Once it's all out, I may suddenly act like nothing happened and go about my business. This is done alone though. I conceal most of my emotions though I don't come across as a heartless person.

If I'm upset in front of people, you'll either know it or you won't. It all depends on if I feel comfortable letting my guard down in front of you. If I don't, good luck trying to decipher how I truly feel, because I'll either be too embarrassed to show it or I won't want to cause a stir. Like Gemini's mutable nature, I tend to be chameleon-like and 'change' depending on whom I'm around. If you're this person, you might get this. If you're that person, you might get that.

I do tend to intellectualize/analyze my emotions and situations, only to try to make sense of why I'm feeling the way I do. But I do think I feel at the same time. I'm not 100% detached. I know when I'm upset/mad. More often than not I will ask myself, "but WHY are you feeling that way?" Because my emotions can be quite an enigma to myself.

If I am detaching from my emotions, it's only because they are too strong and I don't want to feel so much pain, so they get cut off and I move on.


<3 Perfect. I relate to this entirely. I think it's interesting that DF, you, and I all have Gem moons that are connected with the 12th house (and yours directly)and we have similar views and feelings about our own moon and how it functions. I wonder if Gem moons with no relationship to the 12th would feel the same.

For some reason, I really like you. And I like reading your responses and comments. You seem like someone I'd easily get along with.

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posted October 17, 2014 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12th_House_Gal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Gemini moon in 9th here aspecting mars/mercury in 12th.

I agree.
I DO feel, and powerfully. But, it almost seems that the bigger the reason to feel, the less I do. I'll get emotional about little things sometimes.
But I analyze the crap out of them. Apply logic and reason to justify if I should feel them.
There's this strange ability to simply shut them off, a lot of the time.

Maybe my Leo... But I very often just absorb setbacks. I'm healthy... Alive... Everything will be OK.


Hey twin!!

I have Gemini Moon in the 9th, aspecting my Leo Mercury/Mars Conj in the 12th.

Now I will say I am hot and cold. I FEEL intensely but BOOP it's gone and I'm fine. I can feel some DEEP heavy emotions, like really low or really high. I swing emotionally. I also MISDIRECT emotions. Also when I feel something intensely, my mind is SWIRLING SWIRLING SWIRLING. It's the most mental way of feeling you could imagine.

I definitely analyze my emotions. I want to understand why I am feeling something. I try to make logic out of feelings. I try to rationalize what I feel.

Like Yellow I like to feel by myself too, which is interesting. Actually when my feelings are hurt I go away and cry. I will physically remove myself from the area and cry. Actually pretty much everything yellow said!! I also feel awkward and GET awkward when I feel certain emotions. Like "what is this feeling?! What is my body doing? Am I all weird feeling these feels?!"

Now regarding emotional INVESTMENT, I can easily cut someone and walk away. It sounds horrible I know, but it will take a lot for me to invest in another person emotionally. It's like, once I finally move from reasoning my emotions to death, to actually TRUSTING what I am emoting, then it starts to hurt if I get hurt. It's no longer something in my mind, but I'm actually feeling the stuff and thats intense. I'm also a "lets explore all possible scenarios" kind of person, so I'm generally like "lets explore all possible ways of feeling right now", hence why I can just swap emotions easily. My mind NEVER rests, and my family swears at times I'm bipolar lol.

PD - Yes my Gemini Moon is in the 9th and I totally resonate with Yellow However with my 9th house placement I am always off in far away places. I'm emotionally invested in intellectual pursuits and ideals. I'm emotionally wrapped up in the pursuit for a higher mind. I'm most definitely the philosophical type, and the Gemini part means whatever tickles my fancy is getting hyper focus attention. Fo sho. So my emotions are much more intellectually fulfilled in a way.

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posted October 18, 2014 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yellowelevator     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
<3 Perfect. I relate to this entirely. I think it's interesting that DF, you, and I all have Gem moons that are connected with the 12th house (and yours directly)and we have similar views and feelings about our own moon and how it functions. I wonder if Gem moons with no relationship to the 12th would feel the same.

For some reason, I really like you. And I like reading your responses and comments. You seem like someone I'd easily get along with.


I find it quite interesting as well! It's great to know that other people on here who have very similar placements can relate so well to what each other feels/experiences, it makes for feeling less alone.

Aw, that is so sweet! Thank you, I really like reading what you have to say too. Definitely likewise!

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posted October 18, 2014 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yellowelevator     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12th_House_Gal:
Hey twin!!

I have Gemini Moon in the 9th, aspecting my Leo Mercury/Mars Conj in the 12th.

Now I will say I am hot and cold. I FEEL intensely but BOOP it's gone and I'm fine. I can feel some DEEP heavy emotions, like really low or really high. I swing emotionally. I also MISDIRECT emotions. Also when I feel something intensely, my mind is SWIRLING SWIRLING SWIRLING. It's the most mental way of feeling you could imagine.

I definitely analyze my emotions. I want to understand why I am feeling something. I try to make logic out of feelings. I try to rationalize what I feel.

Like Yellow I like to feel by myself too, which is interesting. Actually when my feelings are hurt I go away and cry. I will physically remove myself from the area and cry. Actually pretty much everything yellow said!! I also feel awkward and GET awkward when I feel certain emotions. Like "what is this feeling?! What is my body doing? Am I all weird feeling these feels?!"

Now regarding emotional INVESTMENT, I can easily cut someone and walk away. It sounds horrible I know, but it will take a lot for me to invest in another person emotionally. It's like, once I finally move from reasoning my emotions to death, to actually TRUSTING what I am emoting, then it starts to hurt if I get hurt. It's no longer something in my mind, but I'm actually feeling the stuff and thats intense. I'm also a "lets explore all possible scenarios" kind of person, so I'm generally like "lets explore all possible ways of feeling right now", hence why I can just swap emotions easily. My mind NEVER rests, and my family swears at times I'm bipolar lol.

PD - Yes my Gemini Moon is in the 9th and I totally resonate with Yellow However with my 9th house placement I am always off in far away places. I'm emotionally invested in intellectual pursuits and ideals. I'm emotionally wrapped up in the pursuit for a higher mind. I'm most definitely the philosophical type, and the Gemini part means whatever tickles my fancy is getting hyper focus attention. Fo sho. So my emotions are much more intellectually fulfilled in a way.


Totally resonate with what you said too! And I'm happy to hear that your feelings and experiences are similar to my own, albeit even if they are sucky sometimes and we wish we didn't have to feel them, haha. But at least we know someone out there who truly experiences these same things! It's quite comforting.

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posted October 18, 2014 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with all the other Gemini moons here!
Awesome!

As learned in another thread. One great way to learn about Gemini moon is to just get a few of them together and let them talk. Stand back and watch the magic happen.

Note what about those with moon actually in the 12th? Are you very secretive like Barbie?

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posted October 18, 2014 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yellowelevator     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I agree with all the other Gemini moons here!
Awesome!

As learned in another thread. One great way to learn about Gemini moon is to just get a few of them together and let them talk. Stand back and watch the magic happen.

Note what about those with moon actually in the 12th? Are you very secretive like Barbie?


Totally agree about that! It'd probably be quite a sight to see.

Yeah, I am pretty secretive. I'll only really open up if I have a good amount of trust with someone. And it's kind of hard to come by for me. So most people don't end up truly knowing what goes on in my life. I've been burned many times so it's hard for me to regain full trust, especially when it comes to meeting new people.

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posted October 18, 2014 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yellowelevator:
Totally agree about that! It'd probably be quite a sight to see.

Yeah, I am pretty secretive. I'll only really open up if I have a good amount of trust with someone. And it's kind of hard to come by for me. So most people don't end up truly knowing what goes on in my life. I've been burned many times so it's hard for me to regain full trust, especially when it comes to meeting new people.


Totally agree, I'm the same way. It's difficult for me sometimes. I've been burned repeatedly by some of the "most important" people in my life and have put this steel wall around my heart. I love people and totally feel home when talking and helping others. I just don't like the same in return. I'm completely selfless and don't feel right when helped. Not sure if that makes sense or what. I feel I'm making my self sound unstable hahaha, I swear I'm not it's just difficult to put in to words how I work. My depth feels so foreign and abnormal. 'Misunderstood' probably would've been a better username for me.

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posted October 18, 2014 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yellowelevator     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Totally agree, I'm the same way. It's difficult for me sometimes. I've been burned repeatedly by some of the "most important" people in my life and have put this steel wall around my heart. I love people and totally feel home when talking and helping others. I just don't like the same in return. I'm completely selfless and don't feel right when helped. Not sure if that makes sense or what. I feel I'm making my self sound unstable hahaha, I swear I'm not it's just difficult to put in to words how I work. My depth feels so foreign and abnormal. 'Misunderstood' probably would've been a better username for me.

Oh, I definitely understand where you're coming from, it makes a lot of sense to me and I totally sympathize with you. I don't feel quite right when getting helped either, I'm not sure what it is. And you don't sound unstable! I know how difficult it is to put all of these things into words, it's very troublesome for me too. Misunderstood is a word I know only too well, and it's one I have to use a lot to describe myself, even though I of course hate having to do so, but that's how I feel.

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posted October 19, 2014 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elixir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12th house aqua moon. I have sun in cancer and am very emotional. I just have issues with people getting in my space and feel very misunderstood a lot of the time.

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