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PixieJane
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posted October 23, 2014 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are indeed more souls on Venus than Earth...or at least there USED to be until I did something about it.

See, I was sick of aliens in the moon, starseeds coming here without so much as a green card, and the uppity Venusians that I took to the astral with other like minded souls to do something about it. What I did on Venus was EPIC (especially when others joined in), and apparently others thought so to, like with this person who showed I had witnesses as this was so much like my astral journey to Venus that it's scary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPyFPRn_-ss

Still a lot left to do, illegal starseeds to deport, and snooty aliens to smack down, so join in! It's obviously the right thing to do or the universe wouldn't make it feel so good!

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PixieJane
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posted October 23, 2014 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About to make another trip to the astral, look for me if you're out there, too:
http://youtu.be/ShRvbL3bWpA?t=9m25s

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FireMoon
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posted October 24, 2014 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Cappy... sharing is caring Anyway there's no competition human brides are probably a hot commodity on alien planets so I'm sure we'd have our pick haha..

@Faith, lol we can only hope right!

eta, idk how I posted this with that red face icon.. that's a typo and I'm ready for mercury retro to be over any day now lol

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I'm so cappy
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posted October 25, 2014 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pixie, take it easy, I don't think each soul is assigned to a particular planet.

You can close this thread, it's useless.

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PixieJane
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posted October 25, 2014 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^

I was joking. I didn't have much time to think about it (when I said I was returning to the astral I was out of time to play on the net and left immediately after) and let my silly side slip out (which normally I refrain from because of all the hypervigilance and fragile egos of LL). It was based on the Venus tangent the thread had taken on with multiple posters commenting. You seemed to be having a bit of fun, too, with your comment of petting your crocodile (not to mention your claiming to be from Mordor) and I thought you at least would get my humor rather than thinking I was mocking you or whatever it is you assumed.

And what do you mean by, "I don't think each soul is assigned to a particular planet"? I don't even know why you said that to me because I didn't say anything about that.

That aside, I don't see how this thread is useless compared to many others you make.

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aquaguy91
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posted October 25, 2014 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw a ufo the other night.

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Reverie
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posted October 25, 2014 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Reverie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please don't close this thread, I think it's fascinating and often wondered which planets would be involved in an alien abduction.

Through research I found a website that has an article discussing the astrological aspects of a an alien encounter.
http://www.thegalaxyexpress.com/parastrology

Here's the article:

Can Astrology validate the paranormal? Forensic Astrology is a fascinating branch of astrology that deals in specialized detective work. The topics range from criminal investigation including ongoing and unsolved cases, to paranormal probes including hauntings and things such as alien abductions, to queries regarding specific cases involving Quantum physics such as time travel. Of course as with any type of enquiry, the most important single factor is to know where to start looking. Astrologers who specialize in forensics might use a variety of means, birth charts, event charts, and even location charts or horary charts to discern the truth of a matter.

What astrological forces are at play during a paranormal or supernatural event? The first item to be discerned is the condition of the transiting Moon. Some paranormal investigators often consider the condition of the Moon along with all of their statistical and scientific data when investigating hauntings. The most common astrological conditions that show up regarding the Moon in forensics concern a Full Moon or a Void of Course Moon. Astrologically speaking these are the conditions that represent an undisturbed open channel for energies. The Full Moon in particular represents a time of peak paranormal activity. The Void of course Moon often represents a period when time stands still. The aspects made by the Moon are very important. The next item is to look for an emphasis on the 1st and 7th houses basically representing the self and others or "me and them" by either heavy planetary load and/or aspects made to those house cusps. This always seems to show up prominently in cases of alien abduction. The Occult house 4, 8, and 12 are discerned in the same manner. Since the planet Neptune represents intangibles, it too garners a close examination. Depending on the specifics of an event some of the other planets represent other possibilitis. For example, if poltergeist activity is suspected one would look for an active Mars and for evil or demonic entities an active Pluto.

Anatomy of a Close Encounter
"The Strange case of Frederick Valentich"
This story is a rehash from "Encounters in the Air" which appears in Vol. 11 of "The Unexplained - Mysteries of Mind, Space, and Time" as documented by Charles Bowen. Any quotes extracted from the Melbourne Flight Service records are from this source.

On October 21, 1978, somewhere over the Bass Strait in Australia, a Cessna 182 light aircraft, piloted by twenty year old Frederick Valentich disappeared never to be seen again. Valentich held an unrestricted flying license and was considered a competent pilot by his colleagues. On this day, his assignment was to fly to King Island midway between Cape Otway, Victoria and Tasmania where he would collect crayfish for the officers' mess of the Air Training Corps.

Valentich took off about 6:19 pm and flew over Cape Otway about 7:00 pm. At around 7:06 pm he contacted ground control at the Melbourne Flight Service asking if there was any known air traffic in his vicinity below 5000 feet since he had spotted a large aircraft at that depth. The Flight Service asked him if he could identify the type of aircraft to which he replied, "I cannot confirm. It has four bright lights that appear to be landing lights ... it has just passed over me at about 1000 feet." Flight Service confirmed that there were no aircraft in the vicinity. At 7:08 Valentich complained that the aircraft was approaching him from due east and seemed to be, "playing some sort of game." The Flight Service asked Valentich once more if he could identify the aircraft. He replied that the craft was passing him and that, "it has a long shape ... it seems to be stationary ... I'm orbiting and the thing is orbiting on top of me. It has a green light and a sort of metallic light on the outside." At 7:12 pm Valentich told the Flight Service that his engine was rough idling and that the aircraft was on top of him again. He then told Flight Service that his intentions were to proceed to King Island. The only thing Flight Service heard after that was described a long metallic noise after which all communication ceased.

When Valentich failed to arrive at his destination point a visual and radio search began. The Cessna had been equipped with a life jacket and radio survival beacon but nothing could be traced. An RAAF Orion from South Australia continued to track for two days but nothing was found except an oil slick north of King Island. In interviews several days later, Valentich's father stated that his son believed in UFOs and claimed that his son had been, "borrowed by interplanetary visitors."

What really happened to Frederick Valentich? Did he crash into the sea after he collided with a UFO? Was he abducted? Did he perpetrate a hoax? Some felt that this was no hoax based on the fact that Valentich lived for his professional reputation as a pilot and would never ever have done anything that would affect his chances for promotion. Other experienced pilots came to the fore stating that it should be noted that there was six minutes of recorded conversation between Valentich and the Flight Service mentioning strange lights at several intervals.

The overview of the chart shows energies focused on the ‘self' and ‘others' via a Bowl pattern with all of the planets spread from the 2nd house to the 8th house. Four of the planets are concentrated in the 7th house (others) with the planetoid Chiron in the 1st house (self). Weight or drama concerning the 1st and 7th houses is a signature often found in cases of alien contact and abduction. There is a Fixed Grand Cross configuration consisting of Chiron Rx, Jupiter, Mercury and the Midheaven indicating a course of action that is virtually unstoppable. A T-Square consisting of a Mercury/Chiron Rx opposition squared by Jupiter (conjunct the cusp of the 4th house of endings and beginnings) with energies gravitating from the 1st to 7th out through the 3rd house focuses on bodily crisis, activated consciousness and "checking out." Another consideration is the Uranus/Chiron opposition. This aspect occurred numerous times between 1951 through 1988 and is often found in the charts of incidents involving airplanes and airplane accidents.

An important factor in discerning a case of this type is to examine any paranormal or ‘otherworldly' circumstances surrounding the Moon. The Moon serves as an additional source of identity in a chart. It represents how one feels about one seeks and finds in life. The conditions akin to the Moon alter beliefs, ideals and passions. In this chart the Moon rests at 28ºGemini 39' in the 2nd house. According to astrologer Ada Muir in her reference guide "The Degrees of the Zodiac Analyzed", the Moon at this degree and sign refers to, "one who cooperates with the invisible forces knowing that all these things are possible." Very important is the fact that the Moon is Void of Course - ready to change signs and making no aspects. When the Moon is Void of Course, it is believed that conditions are ripe for paranormal events that defy logic among them time rifts, openings to parallel planes, and unexplained disappearances. There are three Fixed Stars conjunct the Moon, Betelguese, Menkalinan, and Polaris, indicating turbulence, restraint, danger, and violence. The Moon makes one major aspect which is a trine to the Sun in Libra in the 6th house designating a strong human life force poised to expend energy should survival become an issue.

How might the alien interlopers be described and what was their agenda? A quick look at the seventh house of ‘others' tells the tale. The sign on the 7th house cusp is Scorpio which suggests that the aliens were agents on a specific mission. Since there were fifty sighting testimonials by other individuals before and after the Valentich disappearance, consideration must also be given to the proposition that the alien craft engaged the Cessna because the Cessna was viewed as a trespasser and a threat to ‘something else' ... something unseen.

There are four planets in this house all occupying the sign of Scorpio: Mercury, Venus Rx, Mars, and Uranus. The latter three form a stellium - a formidable configuration of blended energies designating superiority in aviation. The stellium also indicates that the aliens were androgynous neither male nor female but housing both qualities. Mercury is conjunct Uranus which confers genius attuned to the "Universal Brain" and the ability to communicate telepathically. They exhibited scientific brilliance and were particularly interested in microcosmic forces. They were experimenters who found it necessary to prove everything and understand everything. Mars conjunct Uranus indicates that they used various forms of mechanical apparatus. They had a keen interest in the human nervous system, the human reproductive system, and in the nature of human creativity. As Mercury and Uranus oppose Chiron in the 1st house, the aliens viewed humans as oddly misshapen or ugly and as housing chaotic energy.

The planet Neptune rules disappearances. In this chart Neptune resides in the 8th house in Sagittarius. Neptune's influence from this house produces extreme sensitivity to and influence from undercurrents in the atmosphere. Neptune is squared by Saturn in Virgo in the 5th house of the Will indicating that Valentich was ‘taken over' by something powerful and unsympathetic. It also signals that he was thrust into another dimension giving rise to great anxiety. Since Neptune is exactly conjunct the Vertex point (experiences over which one has no control) by two minutes in the 8th house, he was a victim of bad timing ... in the wrong place at the wrong time. Saturn trines Chiron indicating a gross manipulation by something determined to have its own way. Neptune also sextiles Pluto in Libra in the 6th house indicating that the familiarity with the physical tangible world was dispensed as Valentich was thrust into the infinite reaches of outer space. If he is still alive, he probably exists in an alpha state of consciousness.

To date, Frederick Valentich and his Cessna aircraft have been missing for thirty years. The speculation surrounding his disappearance remains and this documented case continues to be one of the most baffling cases in UFO history.

Sorry, I would include the event chart, but I don't know how to post one. I know this isn't an alien abduction, but it's the closest I could find.

I wonder if the asteroid Interkosmos(2365)would be prominent in cases like this. Mark Andrew Holmes says it means "a bride between worlds" maybe that could also mean a bridge between planets, galaxies, dimensions or time? Like a portal or gateway of some sort.

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Reverie
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posted October 26, 2014 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Reverie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by athenegoddess:
[B]actually there are more souls on Venus than on Earth. And they are all advanced and living in a higher dimension. your limited consciousness cannot see.

I heard that life on Venus in the higher dimensions is really beautiful. A woman says that in the books she's read by Ernest L Norman, he describes seeing larger than life butterflies with jeweled wings, flowers so large you can sleep within them, crystal floors in temples with holographic scenes layered in them among other things.

I haven't read any of his books but sounds fascinating. If there's life on Venus in the higher dimensions than does that mean that the other planets have life too? That would be really cool to see. Uranus must be really bizare...

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posted October 26, 2014 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libran_dream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
actually there are more souls on Venus than on Earth. And they are all advanced and living in a higher dimension. your limited consciousness cannot see.

Sanat Kumara and the Goddess of Venus are just two of my favorite.



This is obviously a contentious topic to begin with and I don't want to be an oil thrower here, but I really feel like I need to say something about this particular concept that you mention right here.
The "Venus" people, the "most beautiful" beings out there in the ENTIRE universe, are all white, platinum blonde and blue-eyed? Wat? So being as white as white gets is the ultimate universal standard of beauty? Do you not realize the kind of prejudice you're pushing here? I wouldn't normally say anything about this topic, but this kind of thinking can turn just flat out dangerous. Very, highly "unevolved".

Sorry caps for butting in, but this type of thinking really grinds my gears.

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I'm so cappy
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posted October 26, 2014 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
^^

I was joking. I didn't have much time to think about it (when I said I was returning to the astral I was out of time to play on the net and left immediately after) and let my silly side slip out (which normally I refrain from because of all the hypervigilance and fragile egos of LL). It was based on the Venus tangent the thread had taken on with multiple posters commenting. You seemed to be having a bit of fun, too, with your comment of petting your crocodile (not to mention your claiming to be from Mordor) and I thought you at least would get my humor rather than thinking I was mocking you or whatever it is you assumed.


I know you were joking. Apparently I should've used a smiley.

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And what do you mean by, "I don't think each soul is assigned to a particular planet"? I don't even know why you said that to me because I didn't say anything about that.

You mentioned starseeds without green cards. And I think no one needs them.

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That aside, I don't see how this thread is useless compared to many others you make.

Hm. Are you trying to say you find most of my threads useless? I said so because I didn't get the information I was looking for.

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I saw a ufo the other night.

And you didn't run towards it yelling and waving a "take me out of here!!!" banner? You failed us. You could've been our (well, maybe not only ours) guinea pig.

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Sorry caps for butting in, but this type of thinking really grinds my gears.

It's ok, I'm not buing this fairy tale either.

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Through research I found a website that has an article discussing the astrological aspects of a an alien encounter.

Thanks for posting, I'm about to read it.

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athenegoddess
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posted October 26, 2014 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by libran_dream:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by athenegoddess:
[b]actually there are more souls on Venus than on Earth. And they are all advanced and living in a higher dimension. your limited consciousness cannot see.

Sanat Kumara and the Goddess of Venus are just two of my favorite.



This is obviously a contentious topic to begin with and I don't want to be an oil thrower here, but I really feel like I need to say something about this particular concept that you mention right here.
The "Venus" people, the "most beautiful" beings out there in the ENTIRE universe, are all white, platinum blonde and blue-eyed? Wat? So being as white as white gets is the ultimate universal standard of beauty? Do you not realize the kind of prejudice you're pushing here? I wouldn't normally say anything about this topic, but this kind of thinking can turn just flat out dangerous. Very, highly "unevolved".

Sorry caps for butting in, but this type of thinking really grinds my gears.[/B][/QUOTE]


Actually the Goddess of Venus is brunette. I never said universe, I said solar system. They choose how they want to look, if they want to be blonde, brunette, blue, orange... who cares? why does race have to be an issue? nobody is racist here.

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