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ScoprioPowerr
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posted October 25, 2014 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScoprioPowerr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by shyberry:
Really? Is your self-confidence that bad that you need to use your natal chart for assurance?

I'm sorry but that's really rude, this was a harm
-less thread and the fact that you reply back bashing me doesn't really help. I saw on other posts that venus and libra are just places for attractiveness, so I was just wondering if my looks apply according to what people say, you never had to be so rude about it.

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athenegoddess
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posted November 06, 2014 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looked at Kate Moss' chart and she has Aphrodite conjunct Ascendant in Leo.
She also has Venus trine Pluto aspecting ascendant and Venus sextile Neptune aspecting Ascendant.
Plus Ceres and Juno conjunct Sun in Capricorn.


Lara Stone has Aphrodite opposition Sun/Neptune in Sag/Gemini
Ceres sextile Sun
Juno trine Sun
Psyche conjunct Sun

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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 06, 2014 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look at the Moon. For me, the Moon is king.

Look at planet aspects to the Moon that "modify" the appearance.

After that,look to the Asc. The Asc brings those looks forward and may modify or accentuate them-according to aspect it makes to the Moon.

If no such aspect exist between the two. Go with the Moon and the aspects to it.The planets(incl Asc) can only modify and not completely "obliterate" the moon position.

Taurus/Libra sign placements to moon soften the features.

Capricorn sign placements to Moon give dignity and sobriety to the looks

Gemini gives a sparkle in the eye/ mischievous playful grin/youthful disposition

Cancer adds a certain kind of brooding and pouting. Even when not in a bad mood.

Look at your chart and see what is true for you.


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posted November 06, 2014 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look at the Moon. For me, the Moon is king.

Look at planet aspects to the Moon that "modify" the appearance.
-> there is almost nothing that touches my moon in aries in 10. Just a semi-square with mars in gem in 11 and a wide square to my sun in cancer in 1. Does that mean I am ugly?

After that,look to the Asc. The Asc brings those looks forward and may modify or accentuate them-according to aspect it makes to the Moon.
-> Asc in cancer widely conjuncts venus in cancer (7 deg) and squares pluto in libra

Taurus/Libra sign placements to moon soften the features.
-> nope
Capricorn sign placements to Moon give dignity and sobriety to the looks
-> nope
Gemini gives a sparkle in the eye/ mischievous playful grin/youthful disposition
-> mars gemini semi-square. People often like my eyes

Cancer adds a certain kind of brooding and pouting. Even when not in a bad mood.
-> sun in cancer wider square. Hmmm....i often look unhappy, people keep telling me but I am not that unhappy

Look at your chart and see what is true for you.
-> hmmm...how would u judge me looks based on my answers? I am serious

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Kannon McAfee
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posted November 06, 2014 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ScoprioPowerr:

Well, you are just 14, so you're not finished growing yet. However, there are a number of things in your clear self-description that indicate Gemini rising over Cancer. I'm willing to bet if your chart were tested (once you've got enough life events to do so), it will show that your Asc is 16 Gemini closely opposite Venus.

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posted November 07, 2014 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Enneline

Beauty is organized chaos really.Much like an orchestra that plays beautiful music and every instrument plays a part(no matter how big or small).

The "conductor" is the Moon. It works with what it is given(instruments).And when I speak of what is "given" in human terms, I mean genetics.

The definitive placement that influences your looks(body and face)is IME, the Moon (conductor).

And through using their skills,they can make the best of the many instruments given.

That's what defines the individual's beauty really;the skillfulness of the conductor (genetic pool)in making everything "work" in harmony.

Some conductors get it right the fist time- that's when you get unbelievably cute babies or toddlers.

Other conductors get it "wrong" but start to improve gradually as one ages.

That is when you get late bloomers and handsome/beautiful men and women in their 40's,50's,60's and 70's and even further on.

But the conductor(Moon)has to be skilled in putting everything to good use.

So the aspects to the Moon(including the Asc)can help/hinder/delay this process.

Sometimes its not so easy to say that the conjunctions to the Moon "helps".

Maybe too much of a certain musical instrument can be detrimental to one's ears(I speak metaphorically of-course).

In human terms and in both sexes,this could be a forehead that is too "wide ",the breasts/chest too large,the lips too thin or the hips too wide that throw everything else "off balance".

At other times,the "minor" aspects add that extra quirk/feature in the song that makes it unique(again I speak metaphorically)

In human terms this could be a sparkle in the eyes,a skin that "glows",an effortless smirk to the left or a small gap in the front teeth etc.

So in your case,it would be very hard to tell just from your Moon sign alone,whether you are "attractive" or not.

Look at your Mom and Dad and see from whom have you inherited much of the "instruments" that the Moon in Aries can work from.

Moon in Aries usually creates eyes that are direct and piercing- to go with the direct nature of the sign. They "look" straight at you.

Ofcourse the features tend to favour the "masculine" parent.And not always necessarily the father.It could be the parent who wears the proverbial "pants" in the family etc.

Capricorn Moon however usually creates "mature" features that one grows into.

The children are seen as "old" when young but grow into their looks as they age.

Again however, this will depend on which parent the dominant looks are from.But with the Moon in Cap, it is usually the father- more especially the grandfather.

The Moon in Gemini may take on the "teen" looks that they never quite grow out of.

The looks may favour more to one of the parent's siblings(brother,sister etc).And in most cases,the one who was either the last one born or certainly acts that way.

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posted November 07, 2014 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
All those above asteroids(except Thetis) aspects my Sun.Does that mean I am gorgeous?

Yes.. But people change and also you... Some people are beauty young and some people are beauty at old... If you have good luck you will be gorgeous your whole life.. Good and fine inside are often beautiful in other peoples eyes.

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posted November 07, 2014 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by popcorn:
Yes.. But people change and also you... Some people are beauty young and some people are beauty at old... If you have good luck you will be gorgeous your whole life.. Good and fine inside are often beautiful in other peoples eyes.

Yey

But I am still waiting to be "discovered"

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KarkaQueen
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posted November 07, 2014 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cap-Scorpio people are often beautiful.. add in Cancer you must be smoking

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posted November 07, 2014 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libran_dream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer AC people are very pretty. To me, that one always came above Libra AC in terms of "natural beauty". Libra is sophisticated, it's a more adult, refined kind of beauty, but Cancer is pretty on an instinctive level. There's a softness about it that is just really pretty to look at. Libra AC people can be over-rationalizing and cold, too stuck on manners, but Cancer AC isn't so judgemental, there's an openness about them, which makes them attractive to people.

Your chart ruler is in early 7th house, giving it a 2 LIB resonance, which feeds back into your IC, naturally ruled by Cancer/Moon. So there's a lot of harmonizing there, and a feedback link between Libra/Venus and Cancer/Moon. You also have Venus on your Sun/Moon midpoint, which is a big deal.

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posted November 08, 2014 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScoprioPowerr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScoprioPowerr:
I'm so sorry because I have been asking for too many readings and information about my chart

I always look through threads and I always see that if Libra or Venus is dominant, then the person would be attractive or be more charismatic. But people have been telling me that I look so pretty, but I don't really have ANY venus aspects to my sun or AS.

My chart:

My features:

- I have a big forehead but the rest of my face seems to be equal expect for my nose, but I think it's just from my mother. People always compliment me on my smile though.

- They say that cancer risings are suppose to be big, curvy, have big breasts, but I have none of that? I'm REALLY skinny actually. People say I look like a 'barbie doll?' I was trying on dresses and the girl kept saying I looked like a life sized barbie doll.

- I'm very tall, i'm taller than most people in my family (including cousins). I'm around 5'4?

- My hair is pretty medium, it's kind of thin though. My friends always tell me that I always looking like i'm posing for a camera or something.

- How I act is that i'm pretty shy, and I keep to myself. But people often call me self centered, and straight forward. But apparently with mercury square neptune, that could make you a liar?

I don't know if Venus in Sag (5TH house), Biquintle my ascendant helps.


I do know i'm 14, but i'm just very curious about this subject on your definition of beauty and astrology's definition of beauty. Please don't take this thread the wrong way.


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posted November 08, 2014 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScoprioPowerr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
ScoprioPowerr:

Well, you are just 14, so you're not finished growing yet. However, there are a number of things in your clear self-description that indicate Gemini rising over Cancer. I'm willing to bet if your chart were tested (once you've got enough life events to do so), it will show that your Asc is 16 Gemini closely opposite Venus.


I thought I was Gem ASC too. My mom said 7:00 but now she says 9:45, I just hope shes right :/


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