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PisceanDream
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posted October 29, 2014 09:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't want to tackle this from a synastric perspective yet... I'm particularly concerned with its function in the natal. Would it mean that fated events are likely to happen in connection to the planet(s) it opposes/conjunct. I have a Vertex-Chiron conjunction that opposes Sun, Mercury, Saturn and Venus and inconjunct my ASC. What would this mean? How does a sensitive spot like the Vertex operate when it opposes/conjuncts a personal planet? I could imagine transit having even a more potent effect when touching a Vertex-Planet conjunct/opposition.

Would love to hear thoughts, ideas, and experiences. Thanks in advance!

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PisceanDream
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posted October 31, 2014 01:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumpity bump! Anyone?

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florence
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posted October 31, 2014 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure if this covers what you want but it's some info haven't come across before

Re: Anti-Vertex? Sun, August 29, 2010 - 1:10 PM
The Vertex and Critical Events in Your Life ©2000
By Virginia Reyer

The Vertex/Anti-Vertex axis is the intersection of the ecliptic and the prime vertical. It is where the Western sky cuts the ecliptic. Charles Jayne used this axis as an important indicator of critical events in a person's life. Johndro called the Vertex the electrical Ascendant. The opposite point of the Vertex is called the Anti-Vertex or electrical Descendant. You may draw a line across the horoscope for the Vertex/Anti-Vertex axis. This gives three dimensions with the three axis, instead of two; six angles instead of four. The Vertex/Anti-vertex axis is the most fated angle in the chart. The Vertex axis is always due west at the birth, usually falling from the fifth to the eighth house. It is significant of fateful or Karmic events that play an important part in the person's life.
As the Vertex is always found in the western side of the chart, it involves other people in some way. It may be personal relationships with others or conditions brought about by others. The Vertex has to do with unrelated people who are significant in one's life, and events with it are more likely to come to pass despite efforts to avoid them . The events pertain to the Midheaven and Ascendant and therefore are valuable in rectifying the natal chart.
We can think of the Anti-Vertex as the cause, and the Vertex as the effect. The Vertex, from all indications, may be read with the same meanings as the seventh and tenth houses (career, goals, esteem and relationships). The Anti-vertex seems to be related to matters concerning the first and fourth houses (self, home and heredity). The Anti-vertex is usually found from the eleventh to second houses, and is more personal in nature. These areas can be triggered by aspects (conjunction, square and opposition) and by progressions and transits. Both points may be triggered by someone else's planetary energy (as applied to synastry). The progressed Vertex and Anti-vertex bring important, and maybe critical times in the persons life.
The actions you initiate with the Anti-vertex will be the effect you reap from the Vertex. House position indicates the area of life involved; signs show the way or manner the energy is used or misused. Aspects show the way this energy is expressed. The Ascendant may be the face you show to the world, but the Vertex shows how the world interprets that face. The Vertex points to the path of growth, the key to self-awareness. Aspects between the planets and Vertex:

Vertex -- Sun They are the risk takers, want to be in the spotlight. Can be politicians, actors, entertainers, or key-people. A strong ego.

Vertex -- Moon Has strong influence on the family. Strong emotions effect interaction with others. Attracts people who want to be mothered. Can be tradesmen, shopkeepers, homemakers, or home builders.

Vertex -- Mercury Has to do with the reasoning mind, communications, mental ability. Influences young people,brethren. Can attract verbose people. New thought and short travel can improve conditions, as well as education. Rules merchants, editors, distributor, clerks, writers.

Vertex -- Venus Attracts a materialistic partner. Love and happiness are necessary for successful relationships. Marriage can bring financial improvement. Occupations such as florists, decorators, cosmeticians, beauticians etc. can be beneficial - also social activities.

Vertex -- Mars Has to do with male relations. Attracts aggressive or assertive people, soldiers, police officers, firemen etc. Needs control, as forceful actions can lead to violence or accidents to oneself or others. Can experience hatred or heroism. Sacrifice and self-mastery.

Vertex -- Jupiter Can bring overall improvement into the life in work and in health. Influences promoters, judges, ministers, athletes, college people. Can be self-indulgent. Wants an idealistic or perfect partner. Stimulates aspiration, tolerance and understanding.

Vertex -- Saturn Signifies hard work in order to reach goals. Politics can be important. Saturn is known for delays, depression, also stick-to-it-iveness and endurance. Rules real estate, bricklayers, farmers, aged people etc. Brings loneliness due to outside forces. Should look within for guidance. Saturn helps us bear our karma and pass the tests of life.

Vertex -- Uranus Friends become lovers. It is the reformer, the scientist, inventor, psychologist, travel agent, pilots. May have to do with electronics, radioactive substances, etc. May cause irritability, nervousness and tension. Also divorce and many changes. Must use inner perception to respond to higher vibration.

Vertex -- Neptune The make-believe planet. Rules actors, artists, musicians, clergy, detectives, photographers, seamen, etc. Dangers are drugs, alcohol, chemicals, deception,illusion, fraud and theft, also gambling. May want to escape reality. Has to do with voyages, interest in poetry. Shows creative ability, intuition and contact with higher invisible realms.

Vertex -- Pluto Pluto is the transformer, the dictator. Deals mainly with groups. Gives intensification, clairvoyance, extra-sensory perception. Is forceful, bold and magnetic, can be weird. May have to do with convicts, coroners, executioners,gangsters, morticians, the underworld, ambush, rapes. Has to do with Karma. The astral body may consciously be developed to fulfillment. Regeneration. Success in or through group activities.

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The astrological Vertex is actually part of a two point axis comprised of the Vertex and Anti-Vertex... and as a chart axis... if your Vertex is located in 10 degrees of Scorpio, then your anti-Vertex is located in 10 degrees of Taurus.

And like all self-respecting incarnational axes, the Vertex/Anti-Vertex axis generally functions as a "gate," "funnel," or "transcendent opening" into the astrological chart. The Vertex/ Anti-Vertex axis is for good reason (that I'm about to explain) also nicknamed the Electric Axis.

Some astrologers have devised fascinating distinctions between the Vertex and the Anti-Vertex, with the Anti-Vertex generally having the more negative and/or lessor effect. In practical experience, I haven't noticed much of a difference.

Due to the "nature of the beast" - in any astrological chart, the Vertex is normally found lurking around in either the 5th, 6th, 7th, or 8th house.

Vertex In Astrology (the Nitty Gritty)
So anyway, based on the astrological Vertex being located on a "turning point" in your sky chart, it then probably has something to do with "turning points" in your life. It does. Based on it being located in the 5th through 8th houses, then you can also bet it quite often has something to do with "meetings of people." Again, it does.

Here's my personal astrological rule of thumb definition of the Vertex: the astrological Vertex is a sensitive point on the chart (any chart) that during unusual, extraordinary times feels like an electric, fortunate "turning point" or a meeting with "Destiny's Gate."

As mentioned above, all self-respecting axes function as "gateways," "funnels," or "openings" into the astrological chart. As such, when a birth (natal) planet is conjunct your birth Vertex/anti-Vertex axis it may typically add strength to this planet's placement and its potential efficacy in your life.

In practice, the Vertex often feels like a compulsive, yet fortunate experience and meeting up with destiny that you couldn't avoid (even if you wanted to). According to Bill Meridian (Mountain Astrologer, June/July 2001), astrologer, Charles A. Jayne who (along with Lorne Johndro) first proposed using the astrological Vertex, "felt this point was fated and that it represented matters beyond our control."

It was Johndro that nicknamed the Vertex the "electric ascendant."

Here's how I typically use the Vertex (and the anti-Vertex):

Destiny's Gate can (among other things) be:

a person (and how they effect you)

in synastry, the most effective when another person's natal Sun, Moon, Ascendant, Midheaven, Venus or Mars conjuncts your natal Vertex or anti-Vertex. I've gotten a wee bit stingy in my old age - and I only (90% of the time) use conjunctions when looking at the Vertex and anti-Vertex. Also, the slower a planet is... the more narrow my orbs tend to get when looking at cross aspects with the Vertex and anti-Vertex.

a time (when you meet a special person)

when a transiting planet conjuncts your birth Vertex or anti-Vertex.
Be Careful What You Wish For
Through the years, I've discovered that it's a whopping big mistake to overly romanticize the Vertex and/or the people that it brings into our lives. In this regard, I especially like what my good friend Aussie astrologer Judy Crichton Weeks has to say about the Vertex. In a nutshell, she feels that the Vertex is a "relationship" point and a "wish fulfillment" point. When the Vertex is involved, we may get exactly what we wished for, but then again we might (or might not) get it in a "perverse manner."

Yep! You (like me) may feel as if you've literally "wished" this destined meeting with a person into existence. However, later on (after everything's said and done)... she... er, I mean... "Destiny's Gate" may not feel quite as "fortunate" as you originally thought! Okay?

This destined meeting often fills one up with the sense of needing to bring something (or someone) to "completion." As often as not, a Vertex person can complicate your life. You may even find that you simply can't "let go" of that pesky Vertex person (maybe for years or even decades) until the "business" between the two of you is finished and/or somehow felt to be complete.
www.thezodiac.com/notworth.htm

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florence
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posted October 31, 2014 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking today if I had to choose one part of my chart as having main influence in my life I.e I am where I am because of x aspect it would be to do with neptune. Couldn't explain why but now maybe because it's conjunct anti vertex.

The wish fulfilment aspect mentioned in the second writing rang true to my experience of vertex. More in synastry but whenever I've really wished to meet a type of person they've come into my life and fallen on my vertex axis

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posted November 01, 2014 06:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was soooo helpful. I wonder what it means then when multiple planets are involved. Does it just mean that someone's existence has an overwhelming sense of fatedness and destiny? I do kind of feeling that I'm destined to "be someone".

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posted May 02, 2021 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump.

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