posted November 04, 2014 06:50 AM            

I have:

Saturn square Ascendant
Saturn square Sun
Saturn trine Moon
Saturn trine Mercury
Saturn trine Venus
Saturn square Mars
Saturn trine Jupiter
Saturn square Pluto
Saturn trine vertex

All of this wrapped up in a Scorpio stellium (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Pluto), 6th house. Pluto is the ruler of my 7th. Saturn is the ruler of my 9th house.

Anyone with a ton of Saturn in their charts and have experienced this?

Does it get better with age?

posted November 04, 2014 09:54 AM            

But yes, I have an extreme dislike for a lot of the trends & music in my generation. Sometimes I wish I could fit in though because it certainly gets lonely not being able to relate to the majority of the people in your age group.

A classic movie clubs sounds awesome.

I love old movies, music, people, etc. History is actually my favorite subject.

posted November 04, 2014 10:49 AM            

Saturn sextile (5H Sag) the following:
moon
Mars
Uranus
Neptune
Ceres and Eros

Saturn conjunct the following in 3H Libra on the Scorpio Cusp:
Sun
Mercury
Venus
Pluto

Jupiter also in Scorpio along with Pallas. I'm sure it has an affect and it does seem to help me with positive transformations (though it pushes them on me even when I don't want it to).

I've definitely marched to the beat of a different drummer...however, I'm generally glad I didn't grow up in previous generations, it sounds terrible (glad I'm not a kid today, however), though I get along with older (and younger) gens well enough and love history, especially first hand accounts of it when possible, and can enjoy that which was from the 1920s to what just came out today (music, cartoons, books, movies, etc), though in part it's because it gives me a window into the zeitgeist, though I can sometimes enjoy it for its own sake as well. I also don't take life that seriously, though I took it more seriously when I was younger than I do today, yet not as serious as you by the sound of it (thanks, Sag).

I do expect you'll find life gets easier as you get older, both because you'll grow (hopefully), and also because you will have a lot more power to control your environment and choose your friends so that it can suit you more. I don't care what you're like, you can always find people to relate to. Even people who obviously need to be locked up (like a guy who'd stop his car because someone was "following too close behind" and try to get the other driver out so he could physically attack him) have people they can hang with. Even the most toxic people seem to find people to be with, even if it's only to shriek at each other.

posted November 04, 2014 05:07 PM            

I can get along with people my age as in being functional with them. But I don't really care about what most of them care for and it's somewhat difficult if I live in a small town/more isolated location. I have noticed I prefer the cities better because I am able to find people who share my interests and I typically maintain friendships with people who have some heavy pluto or saturn aspects.

I think as you get older, you just find your group of people more easily because when we are younger, we are grouped with our age group and do not get to explore the world on our own.

posted November 04, 2014 06:19 PM            

Saturn features very strongly in my chart. I feel the heart-pounding anxiety and insecurity that engulfs me when I come close to speaking my thoughts and ideas in front of a crowd (conj. Mercury Rx). I feel the seriousness infused in every joke I tell. I feel the unbearable heaviness in my feet as I try to dance and let loose, it always starts this way (Saturn in the 1st). But I love dancing way too much to let Saturn stop me. (5th Moon trine 1st Mars)

To be honest, I think all this Saturn in my chart is a curse and a blessing. I feel incongruent and strange for a person of my generation. My values, too, are quite serious, mature, and conservative. I am very uptight in so many ways (conj. Sun). That's not to say that there isn't a playful bone in my body, sure there is... But, especially with men, it doesn't go far until Saturn "ruins" it for me (conj. Venus).

I feel like a walking contradiction. I seem like one thing but am a total other. I have a thirst for absolute openness but I am often closed. I can be flirty and fun but I can never commit because of how seriously I take it.

I do feel like an outcast. I am reminded of this every time I have to consciously take note of the effort I put to relate to others. The feeling of forcedness that sneaks its way into every interaction and conversation.

posted November 04, 2014 06:27 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Saturn conjunct Sun (7th ruler), Mercury(5th and 8th ruler), Venus, square Pluto, opposite Chiron and in the 1st house.

Saturn features very strongly in my chart. I feel the heart-pounding anxiety and insecurity that engulfs me when I come close to speaking my thoughts and ideas in front of a crowd (conj. Mercury Rx). I feel the seriousness infused in every joke I tell. I feel the unbearable heaviness in my feet as I try to dance and let loose, it always starts this way (Saturn in the 1st). But I love dancing way too much to let Saturn stop me. (5th Moon trine 1st Mars)

To be honest, I think all this Saturn in my chart is a curse and a blessing. I feel incongruent and strange for a person of my generation. My values, too, are quite serious, mature, and conservative. I am very uptight in so many ways (conj. Sun). That's not to say that there isn't a playful bone in my body, sure there is... But, especially with men, it doesn't go far until Saturn "ruins" it for me (conj. Venus).

I feel like a walking contradiction. I seem like one thing but am a total other. I have a thirst for absolute openness but I am often closed. I can be flirty and fun but I can never commit because of how seriously I take it.

I do feel like an outcast. I am reminded of this every time I have to consciously take note of the effort I put to relate to others. The feeling of forcedness that sneaks its way into every interaction and conversation.

If there's anything I read that has given me hope, is that Saturnine folk are much akin to Benjamin Button, they become "younger" with time and more jovial and carefree as Saturn has taught its tough lessons and sheds its burdens. I look forward to that time in my life.

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I can totally relate to everything you've said.

I have mercury(r) as well & it's trine my Saturn. I had to take a speech class last semester & although it was painful, it taught me a lot about courage. I developed a ton of strength from that public speaking class even though I'm soooooo glad it's over!

posted November 04, 2014 06:31 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Saturn sextile ASC

Saturn sextile (5H Sag) the following:
moon
Mars
Uranus
Neptune
Ceres and Eros

Saturn conjunct the following in 3H Libra on the Scorpio Cusp:
Sun
Mercury
Venus
Pluto

Jupiter also in Scorpio along with Pallas. I'm sure it has an affect and it does seem to help me with positive transformations (though it pushes them on me even when I don't want it to).

I've definitely marched to the beat of a different drummer...however, I'm generally glad I didn't grow up in previous generations, it sounds terrible (glad I'm not a kid today, however), though I get along with older (and younger) gens well enough and love history, especially first hand accounts of it when possible, and can enjoy that which was from the 1920s to what just came out today (music, cartoons, books, movies, etc), though in part it's because it gives me a window into the zeitgeist, though I can sometimes enjoy it for its own sake as well. I also don't take life that seriously, though I took it more seriously when I was younger than I do today, yet not as serious as you by the sound of it (thanks, Sag).

I do expect you'll find life gets easier as you get older, both because you'll grow (hopefully), and also because you will have a lot more power to control your environment and choose your friends so that it can suit you more. I don't care what you're like, you can always find people to relate to. Even people who obviously need to be locked up (like a guy who'd stop his car because someone was "following too close behind" and try to get the other driver out so he could physically attack him) have people they can hang with. Even the most toxic people seem to find people to be with, even if it's only to shriek at each other.

Hmph, there I go thinking the problem is you don't have enough people you can feel comfortable with! Well as for uptight, dull, and too serious, I don't know (and it's all relative anyway). I suppose it would depend on if you can find peace or "prove yourself" to yourself. Some change a lot for better and for worse and others don't. I don't what will happen to you, but I expect one way or another you're gonna get a major change in your life and that will change you as a person, including how you relate to life in general...at least if you let it.

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Ummmm.. I think you misinterpreted my post or took it to the extreme.

I do accept myself as who I am. I'm just simply sharing how I feel in relation to others & if anyone else feels that way with a lot of Saturn in their charts.

As far as "changing for the better", I don't need to change anything. I'm not hiding from myself. I am just comparing myself to my peer group & I've come to the conclusion that we simply do not relate.

posted November 04, 2014 08:34 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
You describe yourself as dull and uptight which did sound as if you weren't that accepting of yourself.

So what were you hoping "gets better with age" then?

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posted November 04, 2014 09:03 PM            

I've got Saturn conjunct Moon and Mercury, square Jupiter and opposite Chiron. Plus it's in my 7th house, so it's exalted by house.

I definitely view myself as a realist and I can get very depressed and lonely. There's always hope though, that's my persisting and overall belief. I seriously make sure to have fun with what I love. I hold everything to certain standards because I want to strive for the best at being absolutely ridiculous and clever at the same time. I want to build something people aren't allowed to fathom.

posted November 05, 2014 12:27 AM            

I think one of the things to "learn" is to be comfortable with saturn and what it brings to the table. It's not gonna go away. Once I became ok-ish with it then everything else started to look reasonably easy.

saturn in the 1st conj asc/venus/NN

opposes chiron

square moon/MC

posted November 05, 2014 03:10 AM            

Also when I got older. For example, conflicts over trash in a bad neighborhood, I didn't like that most people were content to live in a trash heap, and I let it be known while also doing what I could to clean it up. And I could go on.

posted November 05, 2014 03:32 PM            

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Originally posted by whaaat:
I don't really feel old fashioned, for me it's a lack of self esteem.
I've also had depression pretty much my whole life. I feel weighed down.

As for the decade I'd prefer? I wish I was born where the grass is greener. Doesen't matter where or when.

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Yeah I've always had self-esteem issues too. Saturn in 2nd house of self-worth. Saturn sure does make you question yourself that's for sure. I don't have as much Saturn going on as some people but that damn planet does rule my life. Capricorn rising and life path number 8 are both Saturn's babies so that makes me one D; lol.

I've always felt kind of like an outcast from not her people but I realized that those feelings are what makes one an outcast. Whatever you feel creates your reality so feeling like no one likes you pretty much tells the universe you don't like yourself and feel no one else should like you. Saturn sure is hard to deal with but once you can actually understand what its trying to teach you, then whole new levels of understanding and wisdom open up for you.