posted November 05, 2014 01:31 AM            

12th house is the house of uncertainty and confusion-it has similar effect like the sign Pisces, so you have Piscean traits. But it does not mean that you will always be confused and lost! This is usually just in the younger years, till about your 30-ties when a person starts to outgrow the horoscope patters, and learn how to work with the energies in their life. Usually ppl with Sun and Moon in the 12th house, need more time to find themselves, longer periods of withdrawal from the world, periods of solitude and introspection/introversion and a strong connection to a Higher Power--developing a faith in the Universe and the bigger picture that everything is as it should be.

Usually 12th house ppl find it hard to say no, or to decide what they want, but this works it self out with age. This uncertainty comes from the fact that 12th house is the house of karma so even when you want to start sth, it is like life is pushing you against your will in another direction, as if life is somehow fated and you do not have much say. You just have to learn to operate like a fish-going down the stream and trusting your Higher self/God/Spirit of Life/Christ within you/fate. In your case your life is more predetermined than for other people, so what is the point to fight it!?

Rather than trying to impose your own will and how things should be-because these will not work in your favor(I am not saying you should be weak willed, but very flexible and responsive to the circumstances as they come). This uncertainty you have now is actually good for you because it will eventually lead you to act in the way your stars want from you: to go with the flow and trust its stream because it will take you where you are supposed to be.

It is a less analytical and planned way of living, but that is in your best interest in this life--somehow more of a receptive and intuitive kind of living, than action and logic oriented.

Now you will have Jupiter passing your 12th house and over your Sun and Moon for the next 11 months, so Jupiter will help you trust this process of letting go that you have to follow to find your path(12th house way of acting). It will give you a feeling of more clarity and faith in the Higher plan, without having to fully grasp it and map it out!

As 12th house is house of letting go, you will often have to let go of things in your life, and it is to some extend better that you are not so overconfident and set on things and certain achievements in your life, becausethe 12th house positions in your chart would make you let go of these and then it be more painful.
ecause 12th house ppl are more at a loss(12th house) about their identity(Sun) they tend to be more easily swayed by others and their opinions or desired while younger, but as I said, if you learn to trust that your path is not one of an action figure of initiation, you will discover your truer self, which is more delicate, ephemeral and mystical than the average person. Your gifts are ones of sacrifices, devotion,love, sensitivity, deeper mystical understanding, feeling and giving nature, imagination, and boy, do we need such people nowadays! 12th house give also intuitive and psychic abilities and often such people(especially these born after 1985) are the so called Crystal Children. You can read some about the Crystal children online and I am sure you will identify with them.

People like you are here not to become ruthless capitalists or businessmen, but to usher in the principles of love, tolerance, kindness, charity and other Christian principles for the coming of the New Age of brotherhood. Your mission will be big, but for now it is dormant. If you keep trying to follow the material paths of worldly success only, you will keep feeling hurt, confused and lacking. Your mission is more mystical, selfless and charity oriented, more feelings and love centered, more imaginatively and artistically inclined. Very soon the old paradigms of power of the stronger over the weaker will start to collapse, the whole system will start to change, and by that time you will be in your 30-ties, 40-ties, 50-ties when qualities like yours will be preferred and appreciated for the building of the new Earth(I might sound crazy to you, but it is already slowly happening and all esoteric traditions and schools have been preparing humanity for this transition for thousand of years)

posted November 05, 2014 01:50 AM            

I don't relate to much of that article. However I think this line describes very well what I usually feel:

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life will reveal its plan for you

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posted November 05, 2014 08:20 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
[QUOTE]life will reveal its plan for you

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That doesn't mean I put everything in the hands of fate and don't try or don't know what I want..etc.. It just helps me to not have many hang-ups about loss and failures. And often I don't really feel apprehensive of the future or changes - just jump in and everything will work out relatively well. [/QUOTE]

posted November 05, 2014 09:32 AM            

For me that path works. I can't comment on whether or not I would recommend it. But I guess if nothing else works, why not try it.

Having things working out relatively well doesn't usually mean they work out in my favor or the way I want. But it's important for me to learn to be content with it. I do my best, the rest is up to other factors.

I'm not an expert, but I think looking at venus aspects, its ruler aspects may help to shed some light/find some answers.

This is how I think some of my placements manifest:

- The ruler of my venus/sun/neptune/uranus is in the 1st house - identity, self, potentials.

Since I was little I was very aware that I had nothing, knew nothing, was nothing. I remember the 1st little events that brought out some of my personality traits.

Over the years, after each event I learn a little about myself (who am I, what are my strength/weaknesses, what do I want, what can I become..etc..) And I think that's how life "reveals" things to me.

- Mercury's ruler is in the 7th house - I attract/am attracted to people who are somewhat guru-ish. They help me to realize a lot of things about myself. My interpersonal relationships are often a bit like therapy or life-coaching sessions.

posted November 05, 2014 04:52 PM            

I don't accept the Pisces train of thought "go with the flow" because there could be a lot of missed opportunities. I've recently realized what a naive belief it is to believe fate will sort everything. (SN in 9th house).

I think a neat trick for 12th house placements is to visualize. Having 12th house mars in an aggressive sign is like having a never ending well of energy in you and knowing you have the capacity to use it, just not knowing how. There are inhibitions and boundaries that stop you from even trying to pursue learning how to unleash that energy. However, picture how you'd be aggressive with your sign.

If you've ever had that Pisces moment like "why should I intervene?" and you're frozen because you lack purpose, then I URGE you to picture the worst thing that could happen if you don't help (especially if you feel that you can) and that should stop the hesitation. Pisces is lost, so its energy is hard to locate. If you apply a frame of logic and focus to benefit humanity via your personal actions, Mars in 12th will work for you, I think.

Picture things that characterize your mars and face your fears about doing that activity. For example, I have Leo Mars. Back in high school, I took drama by accident in my first year, then continued with it because it was an easy A. I never took charge in group projects, always kept my ideas to myself and just participated without stealing spotlight like Leo is known for, lol.

However as I kept taking drama throughout the years, I was developing confidence. Having a group of people behind me who counted on me, encouraged me to try to bring something together and to face my fears about not being good enough.

Part of that class was writing journals so I'd write to my teacher and she told me I had a knack for making her laugh. We wrote scripts and because my class during senior year wasn't focused or motivated, I had to take the lead part to save our marks. Needless to say, I was great because I just had to be. So many people were depending on my performance and that gave me the purpose and drive to succeed. Besides, I took up the leadership role because I knew I had it in me to lead them, just had to push myself to do it.

Sorry if this is getting lengthy, but when astrologers say you have hidden talents in the 12th house, they are right, you just need to put yourself in the right circumstance and find the correct supports to bring it forth. Just an extra tidbit, I went on to do my school talent show voluntarily twice in high school. So yes, put yourself out there and find the right supports!

posted November 05, 2014 07:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Iced8Ace:
when astrologers say you have hidden talents in the 12th house, they are right, you just need to put yourself in the right circumstance and find the correct supports to bring it forth.

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I can relate to this.

There were always some people who asked me "What if it doesn't work out?", "Why do you have to do this?", when I got out of an arranged marriage prospect, or when I decided to change my career. Same with when I wanted to move aboard. Or when I wanted to turn my ideas into something bigger.