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Robin Goodfellow
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posted November 05, 2014 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robin Goodfellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my readings from Linda I have come across two planets that she introduced; Pan Horus ruler of Taurus and Vulcan for Virgo. Do you agree that they exist or do you disagree? Is there evidence for their existence in our solar system? What do you suppose this would mean for astrology if these planets actually exist for real?

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posted November 05, 2014 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes they exist and Vulcan is the true ruler of Taurus actually. Its called esoteric astrology; all truths are but half truths.

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posted November 05, 2014 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robin Goodfellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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yes they exist and Vulcan is the true ruler of Taurus actually. Its called esoteric astrology; all truths are but half truths.

I'm sorry what do you mean? Can you explain further? So is Pan Horus also a Taurus ruler? From what I have come to understand Vulcan suits virgo well. But what are they? Are they actual spherical planets? Where are they located? Esoteric astrology? Cool...

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posted November 05, 2014 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are hidden.. just as truths are hidden from humanity.

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posted November 06, 2014 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Pans Horus is the true ruler of Taurus and Vulcan is the true ruler of Virgo...they just haven't been officially "discovered" yet.

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posted November 06, 2014 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I will also vouch that Vulcan, the Blacksmith in Esoteric Astrology exists. I have felt it's influence in my own life.

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posted November 06, 2014 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes, I will also vouch that Vulcan, the Blacksmith in Esoteric Astrology exists. I have felt it's influence in my own life.

What kind of influence could you distinguish?

What does pan Horus symbolize? Does anyone know how it would describe taurus

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posted November 06, 2014 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK well PAN is associated with the WEE Kingdoms which include the elves, fairies, goblins etc. And they are real, but they stay hidden from humanity because humanity is mostly manifesting beast instead of beauty and will try to hurt them, sell them, make money off them or something evil like that. But they are real. Just because most can't see them doesn't mean they don't exist.

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posted November 06, 2014 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks

I keep meaning to watch pans labyrinth

So if it's related to Taurus it might be the materialism associated with it stops these discoveries & only when it gets beyond that pan Horus will become visible?

I'm thinking also Taurus has such attachment to the material plane that it does have to get beyond that ... It's a kind of fear extreme of oneness, ethereal but then I feel it's so imperative it can move beyond that

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posted November 06, 2014 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I associate Vulcan with Taurus and I think Taurus still represents material beauty, giving birth, having a abundant earth life, family..

There is something missing though I think from women on this earth and i think thats why Vulcan is hidden as well. women don't understand their immortal power and degrade themselves.

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posted November 06, 2014 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I associate Vulcan with Taurus and I think Taurus still represents material beauty, giving birth, having a abundant earth life, family..

There is something missing though I think from women on this earth and i think thats why Vulcan is hidden as well. women don't understand their immortal power and degrade themselves.


I'll have to read about Vulcan properly. Last time I did it sounded to have worse traits than Taurus so I really didn't want it to be linked

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posted November 06, 2014 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ailce Bailey said that; Esoteric Astrology.

I also agree with her other statements such as:

Pluto is the true ruler of Pisces.

My reason for this is because Pisces rules the 12th house, and when we transition from life to life, death to birth.. etc its ruled by Pluto.

Moon is true ruler of Virgo.

Mercury is true ruler of Aries.

Uranus is true ruler of Libra.

Neptune is true ruler of Cancer.

Earth is true ruler of Sagittarius.

Gemini is true ruler of Venus. (which REALLY makes good sense to me. As GEMINI is the true sign of TWIN FLAMES and Gemini is the twins and represents the binding power of true love.

Leo is still ruled by Sun

Capricorn is still ruled by Saturn

Scorpio is ruled by Mars.
(this one makes complete sense as well because Scorpio governs sex organs and Mars rules sex organs.)

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posted November 06, 2014 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Ailce Bailey said that; Esoteric Astrology.

I also agree with her other statements such as:

Pluto is the true ruler of Pisces.

My reason for this is because Pisces rules the 12th house, and when we transition from life to life, death to birth.. etc its ruled by Pluto.

Moon is true ruler of Virgo.

Mercury is true ruler of Aries.

Uranus is true ruler of Libra.

Neptune is true ruler of Cancer.

Earth is true ruler of Sagittarius.

Gemini is true ruler of Venus. (which REALLY makes good sense to me. As GEMINI is the true sign of TWIN FLAMES and Gemini is the twins and represents the binding power of true love.

Leo is still ruled by Sun

Capricorn is still ruled by Saturn

Scorpio is ruled by Mars.
(this one makes complete sense as well because Scorpio governs sex organs and Mars rules sex organs.)


A lot of those seem counter intuitive to modern rulers? But it's very interesting, can see some connections. Going to look out for more info. Thx again

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posted November 06, 2014 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a theory for Virgo and Taurus's ruler involving Vulcan, if anyone's interested, I can put the link to the thread.

I am also torn with Vulcan ruling Virgo, or Chiron ruling Virgo. The biggest problem is that Vulcan's existence is highly improbable.

As for Pan-Horus, I have heard nothing of it other than what Linda said about it.

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posted November 06, 2014 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robin Goodfellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I have a theory for Virgo and Taurus's ruler involving Vulcan, if anyone's interested, I can put the link to the thread.

I am also torn with Vulcan ruling Virgo, or Chiron ruling Virgo. The biggest problem is that Vulcan's existence is highly improbable.

As for Pan-Horus, I have heard nothing of it other than what Linda said about it.


Hello MI, I would like to see the theory.

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posted November 06, 2014 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hello MI, I would like to see the theory.

This is a theory for Psychological Astrology, not Esoteric Astrology.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/224883.html

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posted November 06, 2014 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, the reason I think Moon is true Ruler of Virgo is because in the Tarot if you look at the Hermit card, which is the NINTH card in the deck, you can see that he is hibernating and represents things germinating under the surface.

So I connected this to the fact that a woman's pregnancy takes exactly nine months, so this is a moon association and I don't think the tarot is incorrect at all.

As you can see in this picture, he has a Virgo emblem on his sleeve.

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posted November 06, 2014 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What kind of influence could you distinguish?

In esoteric astrology, Vulcan is responsible for unveiling the moon and evolving past ones inherited karma. My moon in Pisces has definitely gone through the trials and liberation of Vulcan and has become the soul expression of Will to Power and Pluto's power to good.

Very esoteric but not many understand the difference between the planets interacting on the personality level vs the soul level. One could almost say I no longer feel my Pisces moon as an aspect of personality anymore but as a expression of Compassion and Understanding.

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posted November 07, 2014 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In esoteric astrology, Vulcan is responsible for unveiling the moon and evolving past ones inherited karma. My moon in Pisces has definitely gone through the trials and liberation of Vulcan and has become the soul expression of Will to Power and Pluto's power to good.

Very esoteric but not many understand the difference between the planets interacting on the personality level vs the soul level. One could almost say I no longer feel my Pisces moon as an aspect of personality anymore but as a expression of Compassion and Understanding.


Interesting. I think I'll look into esoteric as it does sound like it answers some questions not so easy to broach in general

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posted November 07, 2014 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can completely understand Gemini ruling Venus. Gemini is the strongest in my natal. I have an almost completely unaspected Gemini moon in the 12th and Gemini Venus in the 12th. I am a TF who has found my other.

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posted November 07, 2014 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, the context is actually that the moon veils Vulcan and not the other way around. But the work is still to evolve past the moons natural tendencies.

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posted November 08, 2014 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if anyone realizes this, but there is also a 3rd plane of rulerships called Hierarchical.
http://www.esotericastrologer.org/EAauthorEssays/EAessaysPM2.htm

Are they the "true" rulers now?

The Exoteric rulers make complete sense.

Exoteric rulerships apply with or without the belief of souls as well.

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posted December 16, 2014 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it is our consciousness that perceives the different levels between true and false. One person perceives exoteric rulers as being true, another esoteric and another hierarchal.

I'd compare it to the parable of the 4 blind men and the elephant ; each describing what an elephant is by only touching one aspect of it.

We truly live in our own realities, how great a universe that allows such.

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~ Hi, sweeties !
- How about some Thread Necromancy(?) ~

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posted June 24, 2015 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Well, the reason I think Moon is true Ruler of Virgo is because in the Tarot if you look at the Hermit card, which is the NINTH card in the deck, you can see that he is hibernating and represents things germinating under the surface.

So I connected this to the fact that a woman's pregnancy takes exactly nine months, so this is a moon association and I don't think the tarot is incorrect at all.

As you can see in this picture, he has a Virgo emblem on his sleeve.


- it seems logical... or at least close enough. Why?
Here are my thoughts so far.

If there's one True Ruler of Virgo, then it would have to be Ceres. Because Virgo is the woman holding a child in her hands.
And for ancient Egyptians, Goddess Isis was known as Virgo.

It seems like we are re-discovering all these things. But I have to say, I won't promote this thoughts of mine, perhaps ... just sharing it. For not-so-obvious reasons

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