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Topic: 2nd House and How You Treat Your Possessions!
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PisceanDream Knowflake Posts: 569 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 04:10 PM
I was thinking about this a lot actually... About the ruler of the 2nd house and how that influences the way you deal with material possessions, money, or even the values you have about those things.Pisces is in the cusp of my 2nd, so Neptune is the ruler and its in the 12th. I am very negligent with money. I had to change my card thrice because of fraud. I've had maids steal from me money and clothes multiple times over the years. Even though I considered them like my friends and sisters... I tend to leave a good amount of money just lying around on my bed or on the table sometimes. I get so obsessed with with owning something and when I have it, it just lies there unused. People would borrow things and never give them back, I never even ask to have them back. Not too long ago, I was getting my hair done and was accidentally charged twice. This was in September. I left a voicemail message to the salon owner and she never got back to me and I personally never tried again. I should probably go there... Ugh. (I've been saying this since September) The more I own the less it seems to contribute to my happiness, at least that's what I've noticed. I am very possessive of my things though. I think its because my ASC ruler is Uranus and it's conjunct Neptune (ruler of the 2nd). I hate people taking my things without telling me or when people use something that's mine more than I do. I think I am too attached to what I own sometimes even when I don't actually care about it. It's kind of like... My PS4 is still in its box in my unpacked room. My brother asks if he can use it till I set my room up and I have a problem with that... That's a flaw that I need to work on. To learn to value my possessions without being possessive because what I am demonstrating now is the inverse of this statement: being possessive without valuing my possessions. What about you? Love to hear ya! IP: Logged |
ikja Knowflake Posts: 135 From: London, UK Registered: Oct 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 04:21 PM
My saturn, Uranus and neptune are in my 2nd house. I'm quite generous with everything tbh. I'm always giving out money, but I don't like it when people break my things or take them without asking me - especially when I need them. If I don't need what belongs to me, I'm happy to give it away and to never ask for it back. My 2nd house is governed by capricorn ------------------ When in doubt, ask questions. ❤ Sun: ♊, Asc: ♏, Moon: ♈, Mars: ♈, Venus: ♉, Mercury: ♊, Jupiter: ♋ IP: Logged |
PisceanDream Knowflake Posts: 569 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 04:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by ikja: My saturn, Uranus and neptune are in my 2nd house. I'm quite generous with everything tbh. I'm always giving out money, but I don't like it when people break my things or take them without asking me - especially when I need them. If I don't need what belongs to me, I'm happy to give it away and to never ask for it back. My 2nd house is governed by capricorn
Interesting... I noticed that I am generous with giving money to homeless people or those in need than I am with my own family. I guess it bothers me because they are crazy spenders and I know that they had money they just chose to spend it on an unnecessary amount of clothes or on expensive stuff. I am also generous with friends. Do you work hard for your money and possessions?
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PeterPan Knowflake Posts: 430 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted November 10, 2014 04:40 PM
My sun is in gemini conjunct venus 1.5 degrees into the 2nd house.My asc, moon, mercury and mars is also in taurus. I usually don't buy stuff unless i need it for something practical. With my money i "semi-budget" meaning i invest a large portion of my monthly income and use the rest as i please.
Honestly i would say that i am guilty of materializing too much, i even treat myself as a possession that i need to "upgrade". I try to continually slowly but steadily increase my preformance in allot of stuff, for example i weight lift allot and gain strengh and muscle gradually trought the year, i also try to learn certain subjects troughtly so that i can profit from it later on. I think i do this to increase my "value". I know it sounds weird when i say it straight out like that but thats actually how it is... now when it comes to items i already own, i have allot of stuff that i don't want most people to see or access so i get super parainoid when people enter my room without me being there. same goes for my computer, it's off limits, no exceptions. But things that aren't a secret i am willing to let people borrow as loong as they have my premission and agree to pay for it if they break it. I think the secrecy is related to my moon in the 12th house tbh. IP: Logged |
ikja Knowflake Posts: 135 From: London, UK Registered: Oct 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 04:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by PisceanDream: Interesting... I noticed that I am generous with giving money to homeless people or those in need than I am with my own family. I guess it bothers me because they are crazy spenders and I know that they had money they just chose to spend it on an unnecessary amount of clothes or on expensive stuff. I am also generous with friends. Do you work hard for your money and possessions?
I work extremely hard tbh; but I really hate seeing people in need. So, I always end up weighing up whether I can go without to help someone else. I'm always giving money to various causes too lol. I'm a sucker for a good cause! ------------------ When in doubt, ask questions. ❤ Sun: ♊, Asc: ♏, Moon: ♈, Mars: ♈, Venus: ♉, Mercury: ♊, Jupiter: ♋ IP: Logged |
AscTaurus Knowflake Posts: 1034 From: Pretoria, Gauteng,South Africa Registered: May 2009
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posted November 10, 2014 05:21 PM
Nataly,i have Venus in Scorpio conjunct Saturn.I tend to be a miser when it comes to spending money.And can be possessive of "stuff" that I am emotionally attached to. But paradoxically.If something fails to be useful anymore,I can simply give it away. Even if it was "precious" at some point. 2nd house cusp is Gemini. There is nothing there.And the ruler Mercury aspects Saturn by sextile. Stingy!! My Mercury is also in Capricorn. Did I mention that I am not a spender? IP: Logged |
PisceanDream Knowflake Posts: 569 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 05:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by PeterPan: My sun is in gemini conjunct venus 1.5 degrees into the 2nd house.My asc, moon, mercury and mars is also in taurus. I usually don't buy stuff unless i need it for something practical. With my money i "semi-budget" meaning i invest a large portion of my monthly income and use the rest as i please.
Honestly i would say that i am guilty of materializing too much, i even treat myself as a possession that i need to "upgrade". I try to continually slowly but steadily increase my preformance in allot of stuff, for example i weight lift allot and gain strengh and muscle gradually trought the year, i also try to learn certain subjects troughtly so that i can profit from it later on. I think i do this to increase my "value". I know it sounds weird when i say it straight out like that but thats actually how it is... now when it comes to items i already own, i have allot of stuff that i don't want most people to see or access so i get super parainoid when people enter my room without me being there. same goes for my computer, it's off limits, no exceptions. But things that aren't a secret i am willing to let people borrow as loong as they have my premission and agree to pay for it if they break it. I think the secrecy is related to my moon in the 12th house tbh.
How interesting! "I treat myself like a possession". So you care a lot about your material belongings, don't mind giving them away but hate someone to navigate your room without your presence. I resonate so much with the last point. I hate the thought of my family being in my room while I'm not there. anyone else, it's ok. I remember once, LMAO, I was leaving to the airport because I was travelling somewhere. My dad was taking me and no one was at home besides the helper. My friends were with me, I told them they can stay and play on my PS2 (at the time) while I go. And surely they stayed in my room long after my dad and I left for the airport I think that might drive you nuts? IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 1467 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 10, 2014 05:46 PM
My 2nd ruler is mercury in aqua in 10th. I have gem house cuspI work really hard and work on many different project When it comes to spending, I'm kinda true to my taurus Asc, cap venus as I like qualities and I'm willing to invest. I have mercury conjunct saturn so maybe that's why? IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 5539 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 10, 2014 06:14 PM
This might help explain why I tend to be unusually frugal for my placements (though I'll splurge from time to time) and careful with my bills...my 2H is Virgo. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 666 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted November 10, 2014 06:25 PM
Libra is on my 2nd house cusp with Venus in my 4th house in cap. I have scorpio pluto in my 2nd house.Easy to see that I don't lose a lot of things. I hold onto them well and I don't forget things or accidentally leave th em somewhere often. I am attached to my belongings too. Almost emotionally attatched. Everything is tied to some nostalgic memory or idea so I have a hard time parting with anything. But when I want to leave my life behind I leave everything behind except for a few bare essentials. I like that feeling of mentally emotionally and physically leaving it all behind and starting fresh. I even kind of enjoy the strugglw to rebuild. I think this makes sense for my pluto in the 2nd house. I also like owning less too. I like living simple. And I am not possesive of my posessions I am just kind of emotionally tied to them. Like I'd value a concert t shirt more than a pair of expensive shoes. Even though I understand that I spent way more money on the shoes.. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 666 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted November 10, 2014 06:29 PM
Ypu remind me of my boyfriend. He just has money laying around everywhere. In every pocket. All over the place. But strangely he never loses a dollar. He's a pisces sun. It's like the universe looks out for him.IP: Logged |
coteau Knowflake Posts: 86 From: neptune Registered: Dec 2013
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posted November 10, 2014 06:51 PM
I have a Taurus 2H, and my ruler is in aqua in the 12th making a tight square to pluto and a 4 orb conjunction to Saturn.Basically my posessions are useful and of high quality(the highest I can find for a low price), I just spent months withouth buying any clothes and I only finally bought them now becauseI truly needed them, and i always buy keeping in mind how this is going to fit into my life, how much it will last and if it is a good deal. I love throwing stuff out and I also save most of my money, ever since I was a kid and I never leave it around.Living with the bare essentials is perfectly fine with me. IP: Logged |
PisceanDream Knowflake Posts: 569 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 06:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by AscTaurus: Nataly,i have Venus in Scorpio conjunct Saturn.I tend to be a miser when it comes to spending money.And can be possessive of "stuff" that I am emotionally attached to. But paradoxically.If something fails to be useful anymore,I can simply give it away. Even if it was "precious" at some point. 2nd house cusp is Gemini. There is nothing there.And the ruler Mercury aspects Saturn by sextile. Stingy!! My Mercury is also in Capricorn. Did I mention that I am not a spender?
"Did I mention that I am not a spender?" That was funny! Thanks for sharing. Saturn can be a total b*stard, I would know! IP: Logged |
PisceanDream Knowflake Posts: 569 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 06:59 PM
@theunknown So you like having lots of possessions? Or, if you like something, you don't hesitate to buy it?@PixieJane Wanna trade 2nd house cusps? I'm a hot mess! @bansheequeen LOL, yeah Pisces and their mess. I think what you described resonates, at least in my mind, with having Pluto in the 2nd house. It's almost as if you'd like your belongings to be endowed with meaning. Not a fan of superficial things. Cool, cool! @coteau Interesting mix of Taurus need of high quality material and Aquas desire to keep it simple and rational! Thanks for sharing! IP: Logged |
Comatoes Knowflake Posts: 263 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted November 11, 2014 12:21 AM
I have 2nd house cusp in Leo, my Sun is in 12th. I like quality over quantity. I like long-lasting well-made items. I hate re-buying things over and over because of poor quality. I rather save up for things of high quality than getting cheap stuff. I like to save, spend, and give to a select few charities. I'm a bargain hunter, so I have gotten some great stuff for nothing, which stretches my money even further.I take very good care of my possessions, I don't throw my clothes around, I hang them up. I have a huge hardback book collection and a small art collection. I don't loan any of my books out, yeah greedy, but books are my life. I don't own that much stuff, but the stuff that I do own looks like it's still in new condition. I have to really love something before I buy it though -- I will research it, look at additional pictures, think about it, find the better deal, and then I will buy it. I know tedious, but I have been like this since I was little. When I was little I was the one in the toy store aisle reading the back of the boxes to see what I would get from each one and which was the best one, LOL. My parents told me even as a baby, I would not destroy my things, I was very gentle and would take care of all my toys. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 666 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted November 11, 2014 01:45 AM
He's weird about being messy but always finding what he needs. He has a habit of leaving tiny things in very specific places and he always always remembers exactly where it is... It's eerie.Yeah. It's like there's a memory tied to everything so I get really sentimental with my things. I think it ties into my Pluto in my second and also the ruler of my 2nd house bing in the fourth house, IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 1467 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 11, 2014 02:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by PisceanDream: [B]@theunknown So you like having lots of possessions? Or, if you like something, you don't hesitate to buy it?B]
Well, I'm an aqua sun, taurus Asc so I'm like Coteau. I buy things that are useful but I try to limit myself to very few items because I move a lot. If I like something, I will save up to buy it. The stuffs I like are all very high quality. I don't like things that are cheaply made because they don't last long. That's practically cap venus and taurus Asc. I rarely shop. I'm very frugal but I always look good. I eat well and cook a lot. Like I make my own smoothies every day because I'm too frugal to pay $4,5 for a smoothie but I'm a taurus Asc so feeling good is important. The gem part about doing several different things is true. I've held many different jobs (I'm still a student) and I invest in certain skills just in case in the future these skills lead to something valuable. So I guess that's saturn conjunct mercury in 10th. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3961 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 11, 2014 04:10 AM
Virgo in the 2nd House.Exactly how you would think a Virgo 2nd House manifests... I also have the Sun there... I find great pleasuring in collecting things. Like, very much. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 2547 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted November 11, 2014 04:46 AM
I like NICE (!) things. Quality. Less is much more with me. You will never catch me in something made of cheap materials-I rather go naked! When I do buy something I throw away something old. I also take care of my things. They are never dirty or broken. Always clean shoes. I have a Libra 2H with Pluto sq Sun, Mercury 11H and Moon 5H. Ruler (Venus) is in Cancer 11H sq Uranus and Chiron. IP: Logged |
florence Knowflake Posts: 551 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted November 11, 2014 04:48 AM
2nd house sag with moon-neptune opp Jupiter in cancerI used to enjoy throwing things out a lot. I put this down to Uranus transits though because the urge would be so sudden. Think part of it too was it was things I didn't especially like. But also I'd be very careless with things, leaving dvds out knowing they'd get scratched and just thinking I'd replace. Have been like that with money too. Last couple of years I've changed. I think I got tired of myself being this way and kind of knowing that some unconscious thing was going on because there was something deliberate about it. I've been collecting things I really love but there's something unconscious and weird about this too because I've boxes of stuff filling a cupboard, unopened. I'm thinking to get everything then decorate all at once so I look after stuff and am not careless with it but really I know there's something else going on there. I read two things about moon-neptune that apply. One, that sometimes they feel as if all their efforts will be washed away so they don't bother caring or making effort about things. Two, they really want to make an 'ideal' home. So it's like I'm trying to get past my nature of not bothering but still it's about an ideal I think I'm almost making impossible because I'm not sure I can make material. Think also though trying to counteract the neptune in 2nd of materials being not so material Definitely feel this secretive behaviour is my opposition pushed into Jupiter in cancer in 8th. As also for the first time in my life I've asked for things of sentiment from when I was growing up. I think also this behaviour is some kind of weird complex going on and its my reaction to freedom/powerlessness as per the sag house and opposition - some control issue. IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 1751 From: OH, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted November 11, 2014 05:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by PisceanDream:
What about you? Love to hear ya!
-Scorpio over my 2nd House, Pluto itself in the 1st. -Saturn in the 2nd, in Sagittarius. I'm still attempting to figure out what this means! Help me please! LOL IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 1751 From: OH, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted November 11, 2014 05:35 AM
I will say though that I enjoy giving. Truly I do. I do not give to my own detriment though. I enjoy security! I used to suck at saving, but I now realize its importance. Spend some, save some, give some! IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 3355 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 11, 2014 07:10 AM
Scorpio 2nd, Uranus there conjunct nn. I'm generous. Like, I could just give away money to someone I care about that I know really needs it and not think about getting it back. But certain possessions of mine... Much different story. One time this guy at work wanted to borrow my phone to make a call. Sure... Right? I'd want the same and I AM happy to help others. But the whole time I'm side-eyeing him thinking, "He has my phone. He has my phone. He's getting his facial skin cells on it. His mouth cooties. His ear hair is probably stabbing it. It's tainted." It's kind of like the dodge dart commercials. It's hard to explain. Because if someone is in need, I'll do it, many times. But I can't help but to have some of these thoughts sometimes. And DEFINITELY don't start going through my stuff. Like my phone. There's nothing on it that I wouldn't show people but I'LL show them. lol IP: Logged |
next to neptune Knowflake Posts: 2255 From: The Moon Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 11, 2014 07:45 AM
I have like no control of whats going on with those kinds of things lol... It's like they always disappear when I need them, and then when I don't, there right there. I was never the kind of person who has order in the room, or anywhere else so things often get away. Since I moved away from home I have tried to keep my material possessions at an absolute minimum. I trash everything I don't need, but STILL my room is filled with stuff. I have some drawers in my room that is filled with stuff I dont need but is linked with memories lol (cancer thing).My most expensive possessions like my computer, my telephone (and money) I treat the same. They break or disappear all the time lol. I think "careless" is the right word to describe my material possessions. My mom used to be so angry at me as a child because I just lost everything in such a careless way. Leo in second house, and virgo sun in 4th house conjunction mars, opposite moon.
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12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2091 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted November 11, 2014 07:54 AM
Aquarius on the 2sc house cusp. cap uranus in the 12th. I'm not attached to my possessions. Dislike having too many things. Dislike clusters because I feel like they "weigh me down". However I tend to treasure mementos or things that have a story. IP: Logged |