posted November 19, 2014 02:11 AM            

Maybe this has been asked before, but what leads to a lot of sexual experimentation brought on by sexual confusion? Is it only Uranus hard aspects in the natal chart, or could it be something else less explicit? Asteroids, maybe?

I'm asking because I'm thinking about myself and how I've always had issues with sexual confusion. I've chalked it up to having BPD and bipolar in some cases but sometimes I wonder if it's because I'm a Mars-Uranus person? I'll firmly believe I am gay before changing my mind when I meet a man who can 'change' my mind--almost like I am silently asking for a guy to come into my life and make me see that men can be good for me. It isn't even done on purpose, I think it's really a combo of a defense mechanism [from sexual traumas] and trust issues. I'm not sure exactly what drives this behavior though I loathe it. (Luckily I am with someone now [a guy] and it feels very serious.)

posted November 19, 2014 02:14 AM            

I think you should go with what feels right in your heart and don't be led astray by societies backwards ideals in terms of relationships.

posted November 19, 2014 02:23 AM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Hi sweet scorpion. This doesn't answer your question but i remember when i first saw a post of yours i saw you as a male soul.. you were wearing a white shirt and were very good looking with dark hair and you were smiling. so this tells me that is what your soul is and you are experiencing life as a woman to learn about self acceptance and this is one of the hardest lessons to learn.

I think you should go with what feels right in your heart and don't be led astray by societies backwards ideals in terms of relationships.

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Wow...that is very powerful. I have felt the same way about myself, that my soul is more masculine than feminine. That vision is so cool [and flattering!]. It's hard to explain... I am a Libra Sun and I have always connected to the story of the intersex prophet Tiresias, who became both male and female in order to understand life's lessons on male/female dynamics before being struck blind [blind justice].

So, I can see myself as a male soul. I've got a part of me that is very masculine. I think I may be the true bisexual Libran so I wonder if the confusion may be my issues trying to work out finding a 'balance' in my sexuality. Maybe the Mars-Uranus is the sudden sporadic declarations about my sexuality that are based around moodiness [Mars in Cancer].

posted November 19, 2014 08:20 AM            

-Mars opposing Neptune, in a t-square with Pisces moon
-Venus conjunct Neptune
-Venus semisextile Uranus, 1 minute orb
-Aqua DSC

I was often annoyed at the sexual orientation labels everyone was fixated on. I don't think it's a problem if you want to leave your orientation up in the air. Just a choice.

posted November 19, 2014 09:36 AM            

I wonder if your sexual confusion is brought on more by the roles dictated by society rather than inner awareness?

i.e Since I dress like a boy,act like a boy, identify with being masculine etc. Then I must be gay!!

Even though you may not have feelings for women on a consistent subconscious level.

posted November 19, 2014 11:57 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I think Sun-Neptune and Mars-Neptune could result in a sexual confusion. I have a conjunction and sesquisquare and I'm not sure what I'm dealing with.

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I also have Mars-Neptune but the opposition is wide. It still counts, though. I can see how the conjunction would be difficult as well. I won't quote your 2nd post since it's personal in nature. I'm sorry we've both had some anxieties about our sexualities and sexual preferences. If this helps in any way [I hope], sexuality is really fluid. This used to REALLY stress me out for some reason, since when I can't find logical sense behind something [Moon in Virgo/Merc-Saturn] I become tense and restless. But sexuality is fluid, I've come to see, whether I like it or not, and it doesn't make changes in one's sexuality 'phases'.

posted November 19, 2014 12:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

Uranus is for experimentation.Pluto is inner transformation and Neptune is doing away with boundaries.

I wonder if your sexual confusion is brought on more by the roles dictated by society rather than inner awareness?

i.e Since I dress like a boy,act like a boy, identify with being masculine etc. Then I must be gay!!

Even though you may not have feelings for women on a consistent subconscious level.

And these fears of trust that you have sometimes.That make you gravitate towards women.Why do you think that you believe that relationships with women are safer?

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I have all 3 of those aspects. But Mars trine Pluto is the closest in orb.

I was emotionally and mentally abused by my father for most of my life, and I was terrified of men from a young age. I've rarely ever felt 'safe' with men and this has led me to be very defensive when I am dating men, usually taking on a more dominant role to have the upper hand. Yes, this sounds really 'wrong' or messed up, and I'm trying to discuss it in therapy... It sucks.

posted November 19, 2014 12:53 PM            

Scorpion, so you're in love with and sexually attracted to a man for the first time?

posted November 19, 2014 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I have all 3 of those aspects. But Mars trine Pluto is the closest in orb.

I was emotionally and mentally abused by my father for most of my life, and I was terrified of men from a young age. I've rarely ever felt 'safe' with men and this has led me to be very defensive when I am dating men, usually taking on a more dominant role to have the upper hand. Yes, this sounds really 'wrong' or messed up, and I'm trying to discuss it in therapy... It sucks.

I'm sexually and romantically attracted to women. Actually, I lean toward homoromantic. I believe that one of the major reasons my male SO and I are so compatible is because he is feminine in spirit, very feminine, yet he has a subtle masculinity--though it's one that doesn't feel threatening. So it seems like masculinity has felt threatening or unsafe to me at times. It's been this way since I was 3 or 4 years old. I'm not sure if it's because my dad didn't raise me, so I was afraid to trust men... or what. I have a hard time understanding this.

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Okay. This will get kinda personal. But don't respond if you don't want to.

But am very curious about some things.

Are you attending therapy to heal the tremor of your past i.e your father?As well as your view of men in general?

Or are you there to try and find the psychological switch that went "off"? In other words; Are you there to obliterate your feelings for women?

posted November 19, 2014 01:29 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Actually...I have Taurus Mars so I'm too lazy to have sex anyway

Scorpion, so you're in love with and sexually attracted to a man for the first time?

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HAHA omgggg X')

posted November 19, 2014 01:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

Okay. This will get kinda personal. But don't respond if you don't want to.

But am very curious about some things.

Are you attending therapy to heal the tremor of your past i.e your father?As well as your view of men in general?

Or are you there to try and find the psychological switch that went "off"? In other words; Are you there to obliterate your feelings for women?

Because maybe-somewhere at the back of your head , you have somehow attached them as an alternative substitute for your fear of men? Hence the "confusion" and "experimentation" that you term them as being?

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I'm a Sag rising, not too much offends me or seems 'too personal', haha.

I'm going to therapy to fix my self-image and self-worth issues. The issues with my dad, my mom and the rest of my family play into the issues I have with myself and my emotions/reactions, especially in romantic relationships.

I definitely don't see that there's anything wrong with being sexually and/or romantically attracted to women. If I didn't have an SO, I would be open to dating women too. I probably would prefer to date women, since I lean toward homoromantic and I struggle to emotionally connect w/ men; and as a Mars in Cancer person nurturing is important.

I think my desire to be nurtured is why I feel more comfortable with a woman, especially in terms of romance [not just sex]. Men can hurt me and be senseless, it happened over my entire life and even my early sexual experiences with men were traumatic...so it's no wonder that I came to distrust men even more. The sexual attraction has always been there, but the emotional/romantic attraction has been a huge issue.

posted November 19, 2014 01:36 PM            

Supposedly some people can be sexually attracted to one gender and be romantically attracted to another, never both at the same time. THAT must be confusing.

posted November 19, 2014 01:53 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I'm a Sag rising, not too much offends me or seems 'too personal', haha.

I'm going to therapy to fix my self-image and self-worth issues. The issues with my dad, my mom and the rest of my family play into the issues I have with myself and my emotions/reactions, especially in romantic relationships.

I definitely don't see that there's anything wrong with being sexually and/or romantically attracted to women. If I didn't have an SO, I would be open to dating women too. I probably would prefer to date women, since I lean toward homoromantic and I struggle to emotionally connect w/ men; and as a Mars in Cancer person nurturing is important.

I think my desire to be nurtured is why I feel more comfortable with a woman, especially in terms of romance [not just sex]. Men can hurt me and be senseless, it happened over my entire life and even my early sexual experiences with men were traumatic...so it's no wonder that I came to distrust men even more. The sexual attraction has always been there, but the emotional/romantic attraction has been a huge issue.

It's a miracle that my male SO came around but again he's very feminine in spirit. So it works. He's the first man I've ever loved.

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Got it

I was just concerned that this is an attempt at "sexuality rectification".

Mars in Cancer heh? Is Mars in 7th/8th?

Mars in 8th prefers active involvement with the partner(including sex)that re-enforces the need for emotional intimacy and sharing.

Its the "I love to get into emotional arguments with you. Coz I know that you care" placement.

Mars in 7th prefers active involvement and debate with the partner.That re-enforces their need for intellectual sharing and relating.

posted November 19, 2014 02:01 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
That's great. I hope this relationship will help you heal.

Supposedly some people can be sexually attracted to one gender and be romantically attracted to another, never both at the same time. THAT must be confusing.

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Thanks! Me too. I have a good feeling about it.

posted November 19, 2014 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Got it

I was just concerned that this is an attempt at "sexuality rectification".

Mars in Cancer heh? Is Mars in 7th/8th?

Mars in 8th prefers active involvement with the partner(including sex)that re-enforces the need for emotional intimacy and sharing.

Its the "I love to get into emotional arguments with you. Coz I know that you care" placement.

Mars in 7th prefers active involvement and debate with the partner.That re-enforces their need for intellectual sharing and relating.

Its the "I love it when you get me to consider things that I didn't.It shows that you can balance me" placement.

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posted November 19, 2014 02:54 PM            

Thanks for your reply to me!

posted November 19, 2014 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
@sweet-scorpion~

Thanks for your reply to me!

Can I ask you to unquote me though? I'm going to delete my whole post after the thread lapses a bit. (Thanks for leaving out the part I said I would delete though )

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posted November 19, 2014 03:12 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Thanks for bothering but I'm already familiar with asexuality and all the other terms, I've researched this subject. If that's who I am, I'd be ok with it (well, at least most of the time). I'm bracing myself for being single to for the rest of my life. That's the price I'm willing to pay to avoid doing what I don't wanna do. I just wish I knew NOW where exactly on the spectrum I belong. If it hits me out of the blue like in 10 years it would be rather stressful. And if I also fell in love it would be stressful as phuck. And even if the feelings were reciprocated, we were compatible and I could be in a relationship with that person I don't know what I'd do. Apart from confusing him with my alien behaviour. In short, I'm not looking forward to a change.

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