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sc0rpioRising
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posted November 27, 2014 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sc0rpioRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:

are you scorpio rising? that means NN is essentially in 7th house. I like equal house system best.

Hi Athene! I am a very late scorpio rising... 28degree to be precise.. im a 12th house riser...which makes taurus in my 6th house.

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posted November 27, 2014 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by deepseablues:

@TensionEmpire... can I come live in the woods with you, doing yoga, meditating and living off the land?? It truly is my dream. In a sustainable cob home. I can knit and make clothes too

Hey yeah, come on over! We always need some help
It was/is also my dream, but here I am still in my search after all..
Maybe we are experiencing this difficult situations because there is something going on or is going to happen, and we feel it..

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posted November 27, 2014 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for neptunicity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have NN in Taurus in the 4th, septile sun, opposition MC, and quincunx Uranus. The conjunctions that I have are in my SN. It's conjunct the MC and Saturn. I read that it suggests that I had a good career and having influence on people. Guess what? I'm living the exact opposite of that in this lifetime. And the septile means weird experiences. It's happening.. Even my problems and domestic life is weird. Crazy is more like it. I even developed unconscious psychokinesis last 2011.

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posted November 27, 2014 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagical     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
NN in Aquarius in 10th house makes me think you are here to disconnect yourself from people and become a revolutionary in your field. You need to be seen as a unique individual who is making a new trend in life without any help from others. You need to be independent in this lifetime and become well known from the ideas you have for this new age.

I couldn't be any more detached than I am now in the world. I lead a very solitary life and only see my friends if I dare to venture out if my cave. I'm practically a hermit. Life is very lonely and the isolation just kills me inside. Since, separated from society, I can see the issues.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted November 27, 2014 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The North Node is not necessarily something that is fulfilled so much as emphasized more as time goes on by moving more and more towards those activities (house/planets) and that mode (sign) of expression in order to bring more overall balance to your soul in a growth process.

In other words, it is linear and literal to see the Nodes as representing two points like to two dots connected by a line. There is not a point/place to get to in which you have 'arrived.' They represent a scale that weighs your soul and sets up (within the context of the chart's sum of overall factors) a chance for balance.

Saying we abandon the South Node factors for the North Node factors is like saying we yank all that we have collected in previous lifetimes and experiences from one side of the scale and place it all on the other -- more imbalance.

If you have a planet conjunct/parallel one of those Nodes then there may be a more specific energy/action to 'fulfill', but it still represents a counter-balancing point on a spectrum.

The South Node is your experience, your starting place of what is most natural (at least subconsciously). What you have gained in experience you draw from, but don't continue emphasizing. You use this base to draw from to get towards the counter-balancing point of the North Node. If we leave behind all that is represented by the S.Node, then we have not moved towards greater balance, but a new and different imbalance by failing to utilize what is innate and deeper within ourselves.

This shift -- from south node/past to north node/destiny/future -- does not normally take place until mid-life or after. Nodes show slow background patterns that take time to work out. It is also not a rapid shift, but a gradual one, like the adding of bits of weight to one side of a scale then the other to gradually get enough to balance it. We don't abandon the one to lurch for the other. The 'other' (n.node) is simply a direction to move in to create balance, not an answer to grasp at.

I have come to understand exactly what my south node represents (hypnosis sessions in 1998) and exactly the direction in which better balance can be achieved. Yet, in spite of clearing all the karma I brought into this lifetime, I have not 'fulfilled' my north node even at age 44. There is no specific task to do or specific destination to arrive at. It is not literal or linear.

In fact, the clearing of karma itself negates the setup of the birth chart entirely and transcends the definitions and limitations of any and all astrological factors. You are then free to continue working with the astrological setup you were born with or to begin developing your personality and life in new directions. I am doing a combination of the two.

Even the knowledge of this option is far more valuable than anything related to your nodes. Nodes are not 'Do not enter' or 'One way' signs which direct you linearly.

I'd much rather see people freed to larger options outside the birth chart and astrology itself, which is just a starting setup in life.

Remember what Linda said, Love overcomes all karma.

Its true.

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posted November 27, 2014 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I admit I had to think about this one for a minute. But I think it means you need to establish your independence as far as family goes and bloodline.

I can say for sure with Leo SN in 10th house, you have a history of being prominent with your family in prior lifetimes. Like royalty and having a rich family ...abundant life. Now its time to know what it feels like to go it alone, establish your own path. Create new ideas about what family means to you.


I've already seperated myself from my family. Both physically, there is an ocean between us and (somewhat) emotionally. I love them. But frankly I pefer not to get too involved with them.

Being alone... I'm not good at that. I really love having a stable partner. In my last relationship I was very much dependent on him. I am trying now to become an independent person. It's difficult though, with Saturn in the 7th. I tend to get meshed in with the other person forgetting my needs and focusing on his.

Thanks for your insight! It certainly does resonate with me. I think it confirms my own internal struggle with the independence thing.

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posted November 27, 2014 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iced8Ace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a thoughtful analysis Kannon^ I think major transits help you towards your NN as well.

I had Saturn transit my NN at Scorpio 5 degrees a year and some months ago. That did it. I became a verbally braver person but I have my set backs every now and then. NN is in 3rd house. I really don't get my SN in 9th. I'm taking a philosophy class for fun and I just sit there with this conviction like, no that philosopher is wrong... and IDK WHY.

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posted November 27, 2014 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
Hey yeah, come on over! We always need some help
It was/is also my dream, but here I am still in my search after all..
Maybe we are experiencing this difficult situations because there is something going on or is going to happen, and we feel it..

Haha cool, but man that would be such a huge change, boggles my mind to even try to imagine/comprehend it for real and maybe you are right, but waiting for something to happen is no fun either...

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posted November 27, 2014 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kannon, I think I said it befor but your rising descriptions are on point. Well I'm judging from my ASC, Taurus, I felt like a police officer could find me based on hat description.

Anyway, anyone feel disconnected to their south node?

I understand my Pisces in the 11th North Node, it comes off fairly straight forward to me and fits into the life I've planned for myself before I've even learned about it


But that Virgo south node in the 5th does not resonate

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posted November 28, 2014 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Venus Rx means you are being saved for someone very significant from your past lives.

Aw crap.. my gf has venus rx in scorpio in 2nd house and she is only 20..
It seems that I m not the one

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posted November 28, 2014 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
The North Node is not necessarily something that is fulfilled so much as emphasized more as time goes on by moving more and more towards those activities (house/planets) and that mode (sign) of expression in order to bring more overall balance to your soul in a growth process.

In other words, it is linear and literal to see the Nodes as representing two points like to two dots connected by a line. There is not a point/place to get to in which you have 'arrived.' They represent a scale that weighs your soul and sets up (within the context of the chart's sum of overall factors) a chance for balance.

Saying we abandon the South Node factors for the North Node factors is like saying we yank all that we have collected in previous lifetimes and experiences from one side of the scale and place it all on the other -- more imbalance.

If you have a planet conjunct/parallel one of those Nodes then there may be a more specific energy/action to 'fulfill', but it still represents a counter-balancing point on a spectrum.

The South Node is your experience, your starting place of what is most natural (at least subconsciously). What you have gained in experience you draw from, but don't continue emphasizing. You use this base to draw from to get towards the counter-balancing point of the North Node. If we leave behind all that is represented by the S.Node, then we have not moved towards greater balance, but a new and different imbalance by failing to utilize what is innate and deeper within ourselves.

This shift -- from south node/past to north node/destiny/future -- does not normally take place until mid-life or after. Nodes show slow background patterns that take time to work out. It is also not a rapid shift, but a gradual one, like the adding of bits of weight to one side of a scale then the other to gradually get enough to balance it. We don't abandon the one to lurch for the other. The 'other' (n.node) is simply a direction to move in to create balance, not an answer to grasp at.

I have come to understand exactly what my south node represents (hypnosis sessions in 1998) and exactly the direction in which better balance can be achieved. Yet, in spite of clearing all the karma I brought into this lifetime, I have not 'fulfilled' my north node even at age 44. There is no specific task to do or specific destination to arrive at. It is not literal or linear.

In fact, the clearing of karma itself negates the setup of the birth chart entirely and transcends the definitions and limitations of any and all astrological factors. You are then free to continue working with the astrological setup you were born with or to begin developing your personality and life in new directions. I am doing a combination of the two.

Even the knowledge of this option is far more valuable than anything related to your nodes. Nodes are not 'Do not enter' or 'One way' signs which direct you linearly.

I'd much rather see people freed to larger options outside the birth chart and astrology itself, which is just a starting setup in life.

Remember what Linda said, Love overcomes all karma.

Its true.




Best explanation of nodes I have seen in my life!!

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posted November 28, 2014 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by deepseablues:
Haha cool, but man that would be such a huge change, boggles my mind to even try to imagine/comprehend it for real and maybe you are right, but waiting for something to happen is no fun either...

Yeah that would be some crazy stuff xD
Don't yo

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posted November 28, 2014 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by deepseablues:
Haha cool, but man that would be such a huge change, boggles my mind to even try to imagine/comprehend it for real and maybe you are right, but waiting for something to happen is no fun either...

Yeah that would be some crazy stuff xD
Don't you have friends, that share this dream?
You may start visiting a community that has this lifestyle..
I think we are in similar situations..
It is really not fun.. I tossed the coin for the second time for me, and it said: Go!
Hey, you know that waiting don't brings us anywhere..

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posted November 28, 2014 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just read Martin Shulman book of the Nodes yesterday again.
It's said that The Nodes are really important, that some astrologers get a wide interpretations only with the Sun, Moon and the Nodes.
In this book at the end he interpretes some chards putting the Nodes in the center and than looking at the rest as how the NN will be fulfilled.

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posted November 28, 2014 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Born to Wait
Wait till Death
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posted November 28, 2014 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
You're going to be joining the Galactic Federation on their ships once disclosure happens and the first wave goes up. Be ready.

Leorpio, ... There's a song for that!

I had one of the most amazing days yesterday, and today-- omg! Been working on my filing and came across some old notes and articles on (my) north and south nodes and the connections they make in my chart. Didn't understand it back then. Astrology is so astonishing! Changed my life.

Donning my Faraday Suit, with a big white flower.

(music) After The Goldrush (Prelude, acapella, Neil Young's song, lyrics) [2:33] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjRH4R_MoSc

Kannon... Thanks for your note on NN/SN!

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posted November 29, 2014 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
Yeah that would be some crazy stuff xD
Don't you have friends, that share this dream?
You may start visiting a community that has this lifestyle..
I think we are in similar situations..
It is really not fun.. I tossed the coin for the second time for me, and it said: Go!
Hey, you know that waiting don't brings us anywhere..

Hmm yeah I have a couple friends that share this dream I suppose but I don't necessarily connect with them on all levels, ie they are not all spiritually oriented etc or are not in the right place in our lives to get it going or so many other things that get in the way, you know how it goes? Life gets in the way of living as they say or sometimes people get apathetic too, one of my favorite Plato quotes: "the price of apathy is to be ruled by evil men." I am a little bit anti social at times too, I like to have a partner but my partner and other half of nearly six years broke up a few months ago and I have a hard time in big groups and prefer to connect one on one or in small groups which can be hard to find, and a lot of my friends move away! Or sometimes we grow apart, but I have definitely met some great people in my life and am thankful for that. It'd be nice to find those communities, I live on an island though and there aren't that many like that or they are pretty exclusive.

I am asking the universe more to connect me with my "people." But I am also going through a lot of big shifts and internal changes, the last few years have been rough and tumultuous with a lot of crises to put it shortly. As much as I like to put it off I think I have a lot of internal work to do.. Finding the time is the issue though!

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posted November 29, 2014 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really love what Kannon wrote, I really appreciate your post.

Do you think that some hard transits to Nodes helps with karma and fulfilling the path of the Node? For example I expect in about 6-7 years tr. Pluto to square my nodes, and in my chart they are even more important cus I have ruler of the NN, conjunct SN.

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posted November 29, 2014 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm forced to fulfill it, Sun and Jupiter conjunct NN.

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posted November 29, 2014 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My NN is conjunct Venus in the 11th (Taurus). My SN is conjunct Pluto in the 5th (Scorpio).
I pay a lot more attention to other people, mainly on a psychological level (Scorpio-style) than I do to myself. So I don't feel like I'm fulfilling my NN. But I'm getting better at it.

Taurus NN seems to be about - the physicality and comfort of life.. being able to really put yourself (your own happiness and comfort) first. But having a Scorpio SN, you can never even enjoy a meal without thinking about either how the things you are eating were murdered.. or how there are starving people out there who have no food at all.
Taurus can easily enjoy their food. Right? That's a Taurus "thing" lol... Maybe I need to learn to enjoy my food and tell my brain to shut up.. in this life time lol

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posted November 29, 2014 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by deepseablues:
Hmm yeah I have a couple friends that share this dream I suppose but I don't necessarily connect with them on all levels, ie they are not all spiritually oriented etc or are not in the right place in our lives to get it going or so many other things that get in the way, you know how it goes? Life gets in the way of living as they say or sometimes people get apathetic too, one of my favorite Plato quotes: "the price of apathy is to be ruled by evil men." I am a little bit anti social at times too, I like to have a partner but my partner and other half of nearly six years broke up a few months ago and I have a hard time in big groups and prefer to connect one on one or in small groups which can be hard to find, and a lot of my friends move away! Or sometimes we grow apart, but I have definitely met some great people in my life and am thankful for that. It'd be nice to find those communities, I live on an island though and there aren't that many like that or they are pretty exclusive.

I am asking the universe more to connect me with my "people." But I am also going through a lot of big shifts and internal changes, the last few years have been rough and tumultuous with a lot of crises to put it shortly. As much as I like to put it off I think I have a lot of internal work to do.. Finding the time is the issue though!


Yeah I know how it goes, my friends also, share some nice conversations, but they prefeer following the dictated path of studiing and so on.. After all it`s hard as **** to not follow it.
I was born in a lucky situation, My Parents always dreamed about Land living, my Father bought a Land.
The whole Familly made the desision together and moved to the Land..
That Plato quote is spot on.
I presume nowadays we have reached the appex of human aphaty.
It must be nice to live on a Island!
Latelly I`m too nervous and stressed to pray, meditade and so on.. I tried to do it the other day as I stated here on another post, but only to get to the conclusion that it wont work.
What helps me is walking, I say can`t deal with it, I have to travell, so I walk from my Land to our City Home(where I´m packing my Backpack)(for some weeks alredy)), 14 klm that is.
In the morning I convince my self that tommorrow morning is the departure day, but reaching the eavining I get to question it again, today it was like this, and so it goes...

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posted November 30, 2014 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for muddyt0es     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
North Node is Aries 2nd Degree
Descendant is Aries 6th Degree

Technically falls into the 6th house, but the 7th house reading resonates better. Trying to be an individual, or maintain my individuality in a relationship. I have learned I tend to struggle with that, even in friendships. Avoided romantic relationships for a while because of it.

Mercury is in Virgo 29th Degree
South Node is in Libra 2nd Degree
Ascendant is in Libra 6th Degree

Haven't fulfilled my NN yet though...

I'm a Virgo Sun (in 12th) with a Pisces moon (in 6th), I do find that the 6th House/12th House Nodes with Pisces/Virgo interpretation also ring true to me a bit about things I need to work on.

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posted November 30, 2014 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
Yeah I know how it goes, my friends also, share some nice conversations, but they prefeer following the dictated path of studiing and so on.. After all it`s hard as **** to not follow it.
I was born in a lucky situation, My Parents always dreamed about Land living, my Father bought a Land.
The whole Familly made the desision together and moved to the Land..
That Plato quote is spot on.
I presume nowadays we have reached the appex of human aphaty.
It must be nice to live on a Island!
Latelly I`m too nervous and stressed to pray, meditade and so on.. I tried to do it the other day as I stated here on another post, but only to get to the conclusion that it wont work.
What helps me is walking, I say can`t deal with it, I have to travell, so I walk from my Land to our City Home(where I´m packing my Backpack)(for some weeks alredy)), 14 klm that is.
In the morning I convince my self that tommorrow morning is the departure day, but reaching the eavining I get to question it again, today it was like this, and so it goes...

That is a very lucky situation indeed, I wish I could trade you places.
The island is very beautiful yes but I have also lived here my whole life, not left it many times. Lots of people move here. Some say it is a weird place, apparently the cost of living is quite high here compared to the rest of the country and the pace of life slower but it just seems normal to me because I have always lived here. I guess everything is more expensive cause a lot of stuff has to get ferried here, the ferries off the island are expensive.. Its hard to make a change when its all I've known, and I love the wildlife and scenery of some parts.

Walking is very grounding, perhaps that is why it helps you. If you leave can't you just come back to your family land one day if you decide you've seen enough or whatever? I know what it is like to have opposing wants and feelings, it's hard to decide what is right when you are being pulled in two directions and which is the intuition, the one telling you to go or the one telling you to stay.

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posted November 30, 2014 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm Libra Asc....

NN 7th house Taurus/SN 1st house Scorpio

Just the idea to have to deal with others makes me cringe.

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posted December 01, 2014 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by deepseablues:
That is a very lucky situation indeed, I wish I could trade you places.
The island is very beautiful yes but I have also lived here my whole life, not left it many times. Lots of people move here. Some say it is a weird place, apparently the cost of living is quite high here compared to the rest of the country and the pace of life slower but it just seems normal to me because I have always lived here. I guess everything is more expensive cause a lot of stuff has to get ferried here, the ferries off the island are expensive.. Its hard to make a change when its all I've known, and I love the wildlife and scenery of some parts.

Walking is very grounding, perhaps that is why it helps you. If you leave can't you just come back to your family land one day if you decide you've seen enough or whatever? I know what it is like to have opposing wants and feelings, it's hard to decide what is right when you are being pulled in two directions and which is the intuition, the one telling you to go or the one telling you to stay.


Yes I would come back,expecially when thinks get ugly xD
I have a strong connection to my familly and I have this will of helping everyone, that scueezes my Heart when I`m on the door to leave.
But in the other hand I scream for this life experience

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