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Faith
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posted November 26, 2014 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very cool video.

I'm going to be comparing the charts of some of these people. Stay tuned for results...

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posted November 26, 2014 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Option no. 2!

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posted November 26, 2014 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They just look alike to me.

I doubt Socrates would reincarnate as an Actor.

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posted November 26, 2014 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CatMote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
They just look alike to me.

I doubt Socrates would reincarnate as an Actor.


what more honorable thing to reincarnate as one who tells the truth of humanity?

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"Perhaps there are new plateaus to reach, even greater heights to which I must ascend."

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posted November 27, 2014 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my personal opinion they are time travelers.

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posted November 27, 2014 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I have to say, I've been thinking about this lately (incidentally after watching a few episodes of the show Orphan Black-which is about a female who was cloned at birth in some sort of experiment) because I recently came across two "doppelgangers" irl that were too uncanny to ignore..

One was a profile of someone on an online dating site (embarrassing to admit the context of the situation but oh well) that looked identical to someone I knew from a while ago, he had the same weird quirks and personality traits listed on his profile, same first name even... (but honestly not the same person, I messaged him lol). The other guy was just someone in line at the DMV but he looked almost identical to someone I know irl except he was kind of heavier, but still it made my skin crawl because he had the same type of clothes and mannerisms and everything...

So idk there might be something to it, the only thing it brought to mind for me was the whole "multi-universe theory", so basically time traveling I suppose. Anyway sorry for the random tangent.. Also sorry for flaking out on my ghost stories thread, I've been meaning to get back to that and reply to everything.. but just wanted to say I do always enjoy your interesting threads and perspectives Faith!

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posted November 27, 2014 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually "acting" is a sacred profession.

Well it used to be. *sighs* Just look what has become of that sacred duty!

Let`s nto forget theatre started out as a way to pay reverence to the God Dionysos.
Acting in its earlier manifestations was the performing of a ritual of worship.

The "Sacred Marriage" ritual is one of the first "acting-jobs" actually. And part of the Dionysian mysteries as well. (of course comparing actors today with that, oh well.... as I said, what a far cry from what it used to be! Though sometimes, sometimes there is the occasional glimpse of spirit shining through, though I have seen that more happening on a stage than through other media.

On the other hand, I NEVER let my TV play those ritual words they use in "Supernatural", I may be a little superstitious, but well I wouldn´t know what gets transported through,r ight? Not that I really believe it, but just in case...)

Though I agree I also have never seen Sokrates as the actor-type.

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posted November 27, 2014 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Mr Sag is sacred. We know that much is true.

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@FireMoon~ That's crazy! But I believe it. Same kinda thing happened to me when I was around 12: my friends and I were roller skating , and it seemed that my brother came onto the rink with us...but when I skated up to him to take a closer look, he didn't react to me being there. I went back to my friends and we were all following him around the skating rink for a while because we could not tell whether he was my brother or not.

I forgot to tell my brother but few months later, he said, "Hey you wanna here something amazing? I have a twin. People kept telling me that they see a guy who looks exactly me at the _____ Skating Rink."

Of course then I was yelling that I had seen him myself, too. My brother is an Aquarius and he just found it cool, never questioned it, just smiled like "Ain't life surreal?"

No worries about the ghost thread but I am curious if you have any more stories!

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posted November 27, 2014 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a theory where - each of us is suppose to resemble 6 or 7 other people - around the world. A photographer - used this theory as an inspiration for a project - which proved to be quite successful: http://www.francoisbrunelle.com/aaa/aaimages/MediaCanada/enroute.jpg

Then, there's also this site which was inspired by same theory: http://www.ilooklikeyou.com/

Therefore, I'd take it - the ones from above video are just that - lookalikes.

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Immortals (this word is quite contradictory - if you're to split it: "I'm mortal" ^^), if there are any around - they'd probbaly avoid avoid the spotlight - for obvious reasons. Though, there is a known immortal organism on this planet: a certain jellyfish ^^

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There are numerous examples of reincarnation - of people who remember a past life - and can detail it with such and accuracy - that it's quite shocking - if we're to take in consideration the personal details and the location of their past life. More often that not - this cases involve children. Which does makes, since children are still in the process of developing their identity - their Ego. So, maybe it's easier at that point - when their "new identity" is not defined yet and the old one - is still within their grasp (that, if they're more special from this point of view - more spiritual maybe). And here's 3 such cases: http://themindunleashed.org/2014/08/3-children-whose-stories-support-case-reincarn ation.html


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posted November 27, 2014 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 27, 2014 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith,

somehow I doubt he would see himself that way. Or maybe he would.

7th,

I heard about that theory, too.

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posted November 27, 2014 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Or maybe he would.


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posted November 27, 2014 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Life #1: Alexander the Great

Life #2: Elvis

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Elvis:

Alexander:

ETA:

I'm just being silly, but who knows???

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posted November 28, 2014 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

Alexander the Great - had blonde and curly hair.

Something like this - based on above statues:

Then again, all the art representing him was idealized - which is kinda like the photoshopping of today, where the photoshopped model is retouched so much that - it barely resembles the real thing.

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posted November 28, 2014 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Alexander the Great - had blonde and curly hair.

Nodding. The plot thickens cuz Elvis was a natural blonde with some wave to it:

ETA: Why do my links keep breaking? I'll try another one~

ETA #2:

The synastry between Alexander and Elvis is remarkable. (Click names for charts.)

NN conjunct NN, 2* orb
Neptune conjunct Neptune, 1*
Mars trine Mars, 2*
Sun opposite sun

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Then again, all the art representing him was idealized - which is kinda like the photoshopping of today

Good point.


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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Then, there's also this site which was inspired by same theory: http://www.ilooklikeyou.com/

^ I love that. It's a bit like Astrofaces. And if we accept the premise that astrology affects appearance, then it's no wonder we have close resemblances with other people both living and dead.

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posted November 28, 2014 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As shown in the video I posted, here's Douglas MacArthur and Bruce Willis:

MacArthur's Chart

Willis' Chart

Now, it's problematic for anyone who wants to argue reincarnation because MacArthur was still alive when Willis was born. And they don't even look that much alike. Nevertheless there are some things going on here:

-Both have a luminary in first decan Aquarius
(Willis' moon conjunct MacArthur's sun)
-Both have Taurus Mars
-Both have Capricorn NN
-Both have feminine Mercury, masculine Venus, feminine Jupiter.

That's all I can find.

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posted November 28, 2014 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

No birth time for either of them.

Rose Wilder Lane died before Maggie Gyllenhaal was born.

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Maggie's sun opposes Rose's Neptune, while her Mercury-Neptune is conjunct Rose's sun. That's cool.

And I like the nodal conjunctions.

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posted November 28, 2014 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lord Alfred Douglas (Bosie) and Jude Law - he played him in "Wilde"


Bosie:

Jude:


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posted November 28, 2014 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bosie tropical chart:

DNA:02°12 Cancer


Law tropical chart:

DNA: 8°57 Aries

Bosie Draco:

DNA: 19°03 Pisces

Law Draco:

DNA: 22°05 Gemini

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posted November 28, 2014 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Ceri! I'll have to study those more in detail later because nothing is popping out for me at first glance.

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Hank Azaria's Chart

Rudolph Steiner's Chart

Steiner's sun conjunct Azaria's Saturn
Steiner's Saturn conjunct Azaria's Pluto-Uranus
Steiner's Mars-Pluto conjunct Azaria's sun-Jupiter-Mercury

Steiner Cap NN
Azaria Cap SN

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posted November 28, 2014 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Thank you, Ceri! I'll have to study those more in detail later because nothing is popping out for me at first glance.


Nothing?

Well the thing that were popping out at first glance to me were:


ASC-Jupiter conjunction: ASC in Sagittarius
NN 13 Cancer: SN 16 Cancer
Moon 3 Libra: Pluto, 12th ruler, 4 Libra
Sun 29 Libra: Moon almost 28 Libra

Dr Sun 16 Cancer: SN 16 Cancer
Karma 6 Pisces: Dr Karma 3 Pisces
Dr Spirit 28 Leo: Dr Saturn 28 Leo
SN 13 Cap: Dr Moon 11 Cap
Dr Sun 16 Cancer: SN 16 Cancer


to name just the first few. lol

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posted November 28, 2014 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ You're better at this and I'm lazier. Thank you for the list.

ETA: Luminary conjunct SN in synastry, with tropical or draconic, looks significant.

Not in the video but it should've been:

Zooey Deschanel's Chart

Katy Perry's Chart

Like MacArthur and Willis, these two were born at almost the exact same time of day (two minute difference, assuming accurate recording.)

Both have sun conjunct Mercury on or near the ASC.
Both have sun/moon in the same sign.
Perry's exact moon-Saturn conjunction matches Deschanel's Cap moon and is conjunct Deschanel's MC.

Deschanel:
4 Virgo Jupiter
15 Virgo Mars

Perry:
7 Cap Jupiter
14 Cap Mars

Both have Chiron as a bucket handle.

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posted November 29, 2014 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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No birth time for Grigorescu. Ceri, if you're reading: do I need that, for the Draconic to have any value?

Synastry:
Sun trine sun
Possible moon conjunct sun
Mars trine Mars
Pluto opposition
Bloom Libra NN, Grigorescu Libra SN

Here's Bloom's draconic chart:

B's draconic NN trine G's DNA, 0.01 orb
B's draconic NN = G's Uranus
B's draconic Uranus = G's Pluto

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posted November 29, 2014 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Rupert Grint/Sir David Wilkie

No birth times.

Mars conjunct Jupiter both ways, similar to what's going on with Perry and Deschanel.

Possible that Grint's moon is conjunct Wilkie's NN-Saturn-Pluto

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posted November 29, 2014 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool thread!

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