posted November 27, 2014 10:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
one of my very best friends is the most vain, vainest person I've ever met. She has a libra (beauty) stellium incl. venus in the 10h (public)

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posted November 27, 2014 11:12 PM            

But as for being super extreme...the only one I can truly think of without a doubt was a great aunt of mine but all I know is that she was born on May 8 (can't recall the year), and thus Taurus which I'd have thought would have had better sense than that. She was big on the hair and makeup and what made her extreme is that when she worked outside she put on A LOT of makeup to protect her from the sun (because people with dark skin obviously had to work for a living and even though she obviously did she still wanted to look rich, pale, and useless) and as the Texas heat melted off her makeup she'd go reapply it even if it meant going back in every 5-10 minutes to do so! And she didn't assert herself, was sensitive to how people saw her, and was insecure, though I think genuinely sweet (some insecure people can be cruel to others to feel better about themselves but she never did that as far as I know). I'll see if I can discretely find more info on her though I'm not sure I can learn more about her birthday other than her year of birth, especially as she's dead now.

My mom saw looks as power which she used ruthlessly against men and women both, but I'm not sure she counts as she wouldn't think she'd need surgery, at least not back when she was a model (and aspiring to be one). Maybe now she might, if she had the money, but I don't know. But in the past she starved herself and did all sorts of unpleasant things to watch her figure and then endured degrading abuse to be a model. Hers wasn't born of insecurity (at least not what others thought of her, in fact if others hated her that was good because it assured her that she had power over them) but rather was an issue of power, keeping score, and revenge...and that I CAN see of someone with as much Scorpio and Leo as her, one whose astrological energy had been badly poisoned.

I have a Libra stellium but this does not apply to me...but then unlike many girls I found other avenues of self-esteem for which I'm eternally grateful. Mom did try to make me insecure about my looks but she failed, mainly because I never wanted to go through the degrading abuse she did as a model or be dependent on a man (even if I supposedly had power over him).

posted November 28, 2014 02:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Koho:
Something with Virgo? I know some Virgos that nitpick on little details of appearance. Either they perfect themselves or crave a partner with flawless beauty. I could be wrong; something else in the chart could be the culprit.

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posted November 28, 2014 07:42 AM            

I have a grand trine of Venus, Chiron and the ASC. I never thought of Venus/Chiron being this but it makes a LOT of sense.

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posted November 28, 2014 08:44 AM            

I have a Virgo asc, mars. Venus sq Chiron and Venus conj Saturn.

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posted November 28, 2014 01:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Astra:
You will find the answer to your question by looking at Kim Kardashian's chart.

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Tell us, A and how are you?

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posted November 28, 2014 04:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Astra:
You will find the answer to your question by looking at Kim Kardashian's chart.

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LOL, good one. Late Libra I would conclude as well.

posted November 28, 2014 04:47 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Given how beauty is the only thing worth having for most women (everything else secondary at best), sometimes their only power of note, I think this is a general trait of women, any female once she enters puberty (especially if she does earlier than most of her peers). Most women magazines would seem to endorse that view by their content as well.

But as for being super extreme...the only one I can truly think of without a doubt was a great aunt of mine but all I know is that she was born on May 8 (can't recall the year), and thus Taurus which I'd have thought would have had better sense than that. She was big on the hair and makeup and what made her extreme is that when she worked outside she put on A LOT of makeup to protect her from the sun (because people with dark skin obviously had to work for a living and even though she obviously did she still wanted to look rich, pale, and useless) and as the Texas heat melted off her makeup she'd go reapply it even if it meant going back in every 5-10 minutes to do so! And she didn't assert herself, was sensitive to how people saw her, and was insecure, though I think genuinely sweet (some insecure people can be cruel to others to feel better about themselves but she never did that as far as I know). I'll see if I can discretely find more info on her though I'm not sure I can learn more about her birthday other than her year of birth, especially as she's dead now.

My mom saw looks as power which she used ruthlessly against men and women both, but I'm not sure she counts as she wouldn't think she'd need surgery, at least not back when she was a model (and aspiring to be one). Maybe now she might, if she had the money, but I don't know. But in the past she starved herself and did all sorts of unpleasant things to watch her figure and then endured degrading abuse to be a model. Hers wasn't born of insecurity (at least not what others thought of her, in fact if others hated her that was good because it assured her that she had power over them) but rather was an issue of power, keeping score, and revenge...and that I CAN see of someone with as much Scorpio and Leo as her, one whose astrological energy had been badly poisoned.

I have a Libra stellium but this does not apply to me...but then unlike many girls I found other avenues of self-esteem for which I'm eternally grateful. Mom did try to make me insecure about my looks but she failed, mainly because I never wanted to go through the degrading abuse she did as a model or be dependent on a man (even if I supposedly had power over him).

But there was a girl I went to high school with born on the same day as me (the only possible difference is our ASC and houses) and she was very concerned with her appearance...not insane about it but she did spend a lot of time on herself, used plenty of accessories, and was upset if anything messed up her hair, nails, or clothes (but then given the time and expense she no doubt put into it I can see why, that is it might not be strictly a body image issue).

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posted November 28, 2014 05:02 PM            

Being attractive and being obsessed as my great aunt was are two different things.

Though most Taurus women (and many men) have been attractive to me as well, but in a more earthy and natural way as well as typically choosing comfort & class (the dignified kind) over (pop) style & name brand.

posted November 28, 2014 05:53 PM            

Venus/Chiron can play a role in this. I don't have an aspect between the two in my natal chart, but a Venus conjunct Chiron transit in my experience brings a temporary dose of very low self-esteem. Transiting outer planets in hard aspect to the Sun or ASC sometimes evoke a similar feeling except with those transits you're more inclined to do something about it.

What I find interesting is when it comes to a preoccupation with appearance, everyone mentions Venus and Libra. However, on the topic of obsession, I think it is best to also mention Pluto on the first house angle. I say that because I have it there and it makes more sense to obsess and strive to control every aspect of your body and appearance since Plutonians try so hard to control everything around them.