posted December 05, 2014 04:25 AM            

I'v been reading up on my moon in cancer and it seems that it is a "negative" position for my moon to be in as a man. I'm currently also in something of a trial relationship, normally I rarely have a real relationship but because I'm studying abroad and my personality has changed drastically I'm trying out any new experience with open arms simply for the experience itself whether good or bad.

The girl is a pisces sun and moon and because I'm a strange guy I did multiple astrological compatibility tests. Turns out out of some 11 points 4 are really bad saying things like it's impossible to about 6 that are really good saying things like; it couldn't be better.

The problem with pisces and pisces relationships is usually the emotional side, and I'm beginning to experience this "clash" myself at this very moment. Because I'm conscious of it for the first time in my life I'm beginning to question whether I can change this sensitive nature of mine to be a little more dull.

Practical example: Girlfriend tells me she will stay in city A on friday which means we will have a nice evening with light alcohol a movie in bed and some intimate sex. However she cancels these plans to go to city B where a friend of hers in having a Bday party. Since I met her iv seen her about once a week sometimes twice. From the 4 weeks we are together we only had sex ones because of her busy schedule and ... stuff.

Upon hearing her change friday plans I turned into a woman. I didn't know what to say so I tried ignoring her. She in turn didn't reach out to me but also started ignoring me (I suspect she doesn't like sensitive men and this is her way of showing to me my game isn't going to work and i better man up and get over it). I later broke the silence and became the man she wanted me to become, she responded normally as always and things were "repaired".

First of all, is it unreasonable for me to feel the way I feel? Am I overreacting? I'm entirely open to the option that I'm your typical weak cancer moon male, in that case can I change this? Is it possible to change a personality or dampen some of its elements if its supposedly written in the stars?!

I have experience with intense meditation from when I was a few years younger so I know that changing the mind is possible to some extent. Should I even work to change who I am in the first place? Is a cancer man in moon a dysfunctional man?

posted December 05, 2014 04:43 AM            

I guess it is a simple matter of how I handle these emotions, how I mutate their energy into what I want them to be and not simply be a slave to conditioning. I can change how I express them, and it is hard given that it is a flood of strong emotions but it is possible.

Does anyone have any insight into pisces and pisces relationships with so much water in the stars? I'm not taking this relationship seriously at least thats what I told myself at the start, "it doesn't matter what the stars say just enjoy", but im getting attached to it, im not cold and cool like the venus in aries she met the first night. I'm a ******* ***** .

posted December 05, 2014 04:57 AM            

For a tree to grow in an optimal way, it needs sunlight (clarity), good ground to grow on (stability), and some fertilizer (impetus to change). And it should be sheltered from harmful influences until it's strong enough to withstand them. The same goes for human beings.
You must work with what you have - in your case, extreme emotions and sensitivity. Try to develop a loving acceptance of this side; then, become aware of both the chances AND the pitfalls of being water-heavy; and then, work on the pitfalls and nurture the positive side.

It's ok to be sensitive, and this can even be especially attractive in a man. That having been said, triple water is sadly often hard for men to deal with - think Kurt Cobain or Robin Williams What you need to avoid (shelter youself from) is drugs; a toxic work atmosphere; and people in your private life who drain your energy. It's great you know how to meditate, keep doing it, it provides clarity, grounding, and power to change all at the same time.

Always remember that becoming addicted to anything (not just drugs or booze) is the greatest danger for you, it can take away your power and autonomy and destroy you. Steer clear of this and you should be fine.

posted December 05, 2014 07:06 AM            

Anyway, my brother was approaching this relationship the same way as you said. Take it easy; if it is going well, okay, if not, then it`s goodbye. Piece of cake.

Or so he thought.

Until he actually broke up with her (because they were arguing a lot in the beginning, and she is more temperemental than he was used to.

Well, his plan was to move on quite quickly and easily, as he has always done in relationships before.

Just this time he didnīt anticipate the deep attachment that had already formed.
I have never seen him suffering that much before, never seen him so emotionally broken down.
It was like suddenly the spark of life had vanished from him.

Well he did the unthinkable, something he swore he would NEVER do.
He went back to her and asked her for a second chance.
She apparently had just been waiting for him to come back, and they got back together.
That has been 8 years ago, and they are still together and desipite their frequent discussions seemingly more in love with each other every passing month. They even moved in together 4 years ago.

posted December 05, 2014 10:29 AM            

Still I don't think how you are is bad. So many women would love to have someone like you. You need to remember that. Theres a lot of people that are unhappy in thier relationships with unemotional men! If anythign you should keep being emotional. Instead of changing because a relationship isn't working out, you should chnage because you want to. Otherwise you need to find someone who will accept you for everything that you are.

posted December 05, 2014 01:10 PM            

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Originally posted by 2akurate:
Sun in Pisces
Moon in Cancer
Venus in Aries
Ascendant in Scorpio

I've been reading up on my moon in cancer and it seems that it is a "negative" position for my moon to be in as a man. I'm currently also in something of a trial relationship, normally I rarely have a real relationship but because I'm studying abroad and my personality has changed drastically I'm trying out any new experience with open arms simply for the experience itself whether good or bad.

The girl is a pisces sun and moon and because I'm a strange guy I did multiple astrological compatibility tests. Turns out out of some 11 points 4 are really bad saying things like it's impossible to about 6 that are really good saying things like; it couldn't be better.

The problem with pisces and pisces relationships is usually the emotional side, and I'm beginning to experience this "clash" myself at this very moment. Because I'm conscious of it for the first time in my life I'm beginning to question whether I can change this sensitive nature of mine to be a little more dull.

Practical example: Girlfriend tells me she will stay in city A on friday which means we will have a nice evening with light alcohol a movie in bed and some intimate sex. However she cancels these plans to go to city B where a friend of hers in having a Bday party. Since I met her iv seen her about once a week sometimes twice. From the 4 weeks we are together we only had sex ones because of her busy schedule and ... stuff.

Upon hearing her change friday plans I turned into a woman. I didn't know what to say so I tried ignoring her. She in turn didn't reach out to me but also started ignoring me (I suspect she doesn't like sensitive men and this is her way of showing to me my game isn't going to work and i better man up and get over it). I later broke the silence and became the man she wanted me to become, she responded normally as always and things were "repaired".

First of all, is it unreasonable for me to feel the way I feel? Am I overreacting? I'm entirely open to the option that I'm your typical weak cancer moon male, in that case can I change this? Is it possible to change a personality or dampen some of its elements if its supposedly written in the stars?!

I have experience with intense meditation from when I was a few years younger so I know that changing the mind is possible to some extent. Should I even work to change who I am in the first place? Is a cancer man in moon a dysfunctional man?

I just want to live a happy life, I want to iron out my own personal flaws and be the best version of myself I can be. But these ******* stars wont let me. Similar thing with Venus in Aries, maybe thats why i rarely have a real relationship... sigh

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Speaking as a Cancer Moon man myself.I think you are just too hard on yourself and should learn to embrace your sensitive nature-rather than deny it.

Water is good for our bodies, but we can also drown in it as well. So it's about boundaries.

The reaction you had with her cancelling your plans is not being a "woman" about it. I think it's actually normal. I would react in a similar way.

Only difference is that,I almost always expect people to cancel and change their plans with me. So I never take it personally when it happens. Why?

Because I am quite the commitmentphobe myself. And hate having to honour something that I have changed my mind about.

But in you case,your motivations are deeply emotional.You are in a new place, hesitant to make for yourself a familiar environment (Cancer Moon) the best way you know how; which is through intimate connections etc. and her actions are disheartening.

My feeling is that you should realize that you are going through a transition right now .And that is making you act more vulnerable to inconsistencies.

Check to see the transits of Uranus/Pluto to your moon. She could be representing the tr Uranus/nMoon square interaction that you are uncomfortable with.

Cancer hates change and Aries in Uranus initiates it in an abrasive manner-her blase cancellation of your plans with her.

Your reaction however,could be the opposition aspect of Pluto to you Moon and square aspect to Venus respectively: Strong emotions that are difficult to disguise. As well as deep resentment.

Pluto always makes things that much more stronger. And with your Asc in Scorpio- emotions can get TOO much at times.

Don't depend on her to be your life-line. The only way to deal with intense feelings is to diversify. Distract yourself with many activities instead of focusing on one thing.

I don't think she meant to hurt your feelings and may not understand the depth of your resentment towards what she did. Hence her expecting you to just "get over it" etc.

If you feel she is unkind, make more friends and put this romance thing on the back burner.

Sometimes starting off a light affair during s Pluto transit to Venus/Moon is not possible.

It can start off breezy.But Pluto adds so much intensity to it, that it ends up being a murky,tumultuous storm.

posted December 05, 2014 01:34 PM            

I used to give a F ....., now I don't care what they think.

The message was to stop worring about what other people think of you.
Will they think I am strange if I do this ?
What will this person say if I eat this or dress this way.

posted December 05, 2014 01:45 PM            

You didn't "turn into a woman." You had a normal emotional reaction and I really hate that our society programs people to think this way. It's not shameful or weird for guys to have deep feelings. It might make you different from some guys, who are so determined to run from how they feel. But, who cares about them? Be true to yourself. Being so emotional makes you unique.

Of course, it's good to balance out those emotions with a bit of reason and to not let yourself go off the deep end emotionally. But, don't eliminate your nature altogether, either. There's improving yourself, in order to live a healthy, happy life, and then there's trying to eliminate what makes you you. Don't do the latter.

I'm a Water Moon male myself, although I've got Scorpio Moon. And I'm just learning the balance between going with my emotional intensity and accepting it and expressing it but not letting it wreak havoc on my sanity. I think astrology is an amazing tool for self-awareness and that your chart is really a self-help map. It shows you how to better things that may be negative and how to maximize talents and natural abilities.

There are, like one poster said, many women who would love being with a guy who's much more sensitive and deep. And then there are some women who might get turned off by that. But, hey, we can't please everyone, can we? So, screw them. Focus on accepting yourself and you'll draw people into your life that accept you, too.

posted December 05, 2014 04:31 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by 2akurate:
Sun in Pisces
Moon in Cancer
Venus in Aries
Ascendant in Scorpio

I'v been reading up on my moon in cancer and it seems that it is a "negative" position for my moon to be in as a man. I'm currently also in something of a trial relationship, normally I rarely have a real relationship but because I'm studying abroad and my personality has changed drastically I'm trying out any new experience with open arms simply for the experience itself whether good or bad.

The girl is a pisces sun and moon and because I'm a strange guy I did multiple astrological compatibility tests. Turns out out of some 11 points 4 are really bad saying things like it's impossible to about 6 that are really good saying things like; it couldn't be better.

The problem with pisces and pisces relationships is usually the emotional side, and I'm beginning to experience this "clash" myself at this very moment. Because I'm conscious of it for the first time in my life I'm beginning to question whether I can change this sensitive nature of mine to be a little more dull.

Practical example: Girlfriend tells me she will stay in city A on friday which means we will have a nice evening with light alcohol a movie in bed and some intimate sex. However she cancels these plans to go to city B where a friend of hers in having a Bday party. Since I met her iv seen her about once a week sometimes twice. From the 4 weeks we are together we only had sex ones because of her busy schedule and ... stuff.

Upon hearing her change friday plans I turned into a woman. I didn't know what to say so I tried ignoring her. She in turn didn't reach out to me but also started ignoring me (I suspect she doesn't like sensitive men and this is her way of showing to me my game isn't going to work and i better man up and get over it). I later broke the silence and became the man she wanted me to become, she responded normally as always and things were "repaired".

First of all, is it unreasonable for me to feel the way I feel? Am I overreacting? I'm entirely open to the option that I'm your typical weak cancer moon male, in that case can I change this? Is it possible to change a personality or dampen some of its elements if its supposedly written in the stars?!

I have experience with intense meditation from when I was a few years younger so I know that changing the mind is possible to some extent. Should I even work to change who I am in the first place? Is a cancer man in moon a dysfunctional man?

I just want to live a happy life, I want to iron out my own personal flaws and be the best version of myself I can be. But these ******* stars wont let me. Similar thing with Venus in Aries, maybe thats why i rarely have a real relationship... sigh

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2akurate,

Here's the deal ... I know what you are going through as I am a Pisces male with a Cancer Moon.

Astrology isn't a definitive measure of things but rather it explains how people can interrelate in various aspects of their life.

Every relationship with have its negative aspects and challenges in astrology.

Now on to the situation at hand. The key as others have mentioned is self-respect.

Now where I differ from most others here is that I don't mince words when it comes understanding where you stand in relationships with the opposite sex.

I hate to break it to you but this girl isn't that interested in you.

How do I know this? It's simple. Never judge by words but by actions.

In this case she's choosing to go out in the city over spending time with you. A girl who is interested in you won't set up plans with you and cancel with you to go out with her friends. Would the average girl cancel plans with Brad Pitt, Chris Hemsworth or some other highly desirable male to go out with her friends? Not a chance.

Now since you say you are studying abroad my guess is that you're in you'e early 20s.

The problem is that you see this relationship as being exclusive whereas she sees it as being non-exclusive for the time being.

My advice is to go out with your friends and meet people, other women and enjoy life.

Don't try to change who you are but do think about your boundaries and what you are willing to accept.

Clearly what you want isn't currently in sync with what she wants so you can either continue what you are doing and she'll eventually cheat and/or dump you, or you can say hey I want this and this girl doesn't therefore I'm going to find a girl that wants what I want.

The worse thing you can do is waste time with a girl who strings you along, which appears to be case here.

posted December 06, 2014 05:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Thefish:
2akurate,

Here's the deal ... I know what you are going through as I am a Pisces male with a Cancer Moon.

Astrology isn't a definitive measure of things but rather it explains how people can interrelate in various aspects of their life.

Every relationship with have its negative aspects and challenges in astrology.

Now on to the situation at hand. The key as others have mentioned is self-respect.

Now where I differ from most others here is that I don't mince words when it comes understanding where you stand in relationships with the opposite sex.

I hate to break it to you but this girl isn't that interested in you.

How do I know this? It's simple. Never judge by words but by actions.

In this case she's choosing to go out in the city over spending time with you. A girl who is interested in you won't set up plans with you and cancel with you to go out with her friends. Would the average girl cancel plans with Brad Pitt, Chris Hemsworth or some other highly desirable male to go out with her friends? Not a chance.

Now since you say you are studying abroad my guess is that you're in you'e early 20s.

The problem is that you see this relationship as being exclusive whereas she sees it as being non-exclusive for the time being.

My advice is to go out with your friends and meet people, other women and enjoy life.

Don't try to change who you are but do think about your boundaries and what you are willing to accept.

Clearly what you want isn't currently in sync with what she wants so you can either continue what you are doing and she'll eventually cheat and/or dump you, or you can say hey I want this and this girl doesn't therefore I'm going to find a girl that wants what I want.

The worse thing you can do is waste time with a girl who strings you along, which appears to be case here.

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You are right, I felt inside that her words to me were not very genuine, but each time we met the way we interacted with eachother would convince me that I was wrongly interpreting her, me and her are just sexually compatible and thats what both fooled us into thinking the relation had substance. Since I'm here in China I'm learning so many things about life, myself and relationships its amazing, I love every second of it.

Anyway, since she's been gone I havn't sent her a single message, I whent out yesterday and found a girl who's better in every respect. I suspect she's cancer but I don't want to ask her because I don't like how astrology messes with my mind sometimes. It was almost the same as with the first girl, instant attraction and I know exactly how to treat her and make her melt. I just hope she's not a pisces, I did discover in our interactions there were definite differences to the first girl, like she would grab my hand if I let go of hers, which the first one never did do. Not even the very first night when things were really hot, I was the innitiator most of the time and she the willing passanger, maybe its a personal problem of hers and not mine, I suspect so.

This new girl also innitiated our first intimate contact by quickly kissing me on the lips when I wasn't paying attentiont to her, which I adore. When we sat in the lounge part of the club on the sofa I opened her up like a flower until she willingly sat on me to kiss me which is quite the feet given that the girl is Chinese and they are known to be very reserved and slow. She was sucking my finger at the end of that night.

Anyway, what the hell am I saying, I guess what ever pops into my mind. This first girl I don't care about anymore, I don't know if I cared much at all and maybe lying to myself. I just like certainty, either we are together or not and if we are not I can easily move on. Its the uncertainty that was killing me I guess, the mixed signals. All in all iv learned throughout my life to quickly get rid of people who negatively impact me, i go by the rule that if things move easily they are to be persued. Things that are very difficult are best left alone. It is easy to see how people make themselves misserable, I'm glad I can see things for what they are very early and act decisively, maybe this is why my "relationships" only last a couple of weeks on average.

And about the emotional side, I like to think I'm very connected with my emotions and I usually don't see them as a weakness, but I was frustrated when making this thread and my thinking and speaking at the time was like a blunt knife. Not very accurate.

As for the comment about drugs from the person above. Iv done many drugs in the past as a means to experiment, whether psychdelics to find the truth, weed, alcohol, sigarettes. Both psychdelics and weed (which technically is also a psych) are way too hard on me, I'm incredibly sensitive to weed and It has psychedelic effects, my thinking also becomes negative on psych drugs and i generally become incredibly afraid of the darkness I meet when I take them. As for alcohol I drink a lot when I go out, it is possible that somewhere along my life when I get hit enough times that i will turn to it. But truly nothing can be done about it, if i live a good life now it should prevent that situation in the future.

Thank you for your thoughts, this is a really intelligent community I feel, and even though I already knew many of the things you spoke about it is always different if someone reflects the things you already know back to you.

posted December 06, 2014 05:22 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Thefish:
2akurate,

Here's the deal ... I know what you are going through as I am a Pisces male with a Cancer Moon.

Astrology isn't a definitive measure of things but rather it explains how people can interrelate in various aspects of their life.

Every relationship with have its negative aspects and challenges in astrology.

Now on to the situation at hand. The key as others have mentioned is self-respect.

Now where I differ from most others here is that I don't mince words when it comes understanding where you stand in relationships with the opposite sex.

I hate to break it to you but this girl isn't that interested in you.

How do I know this? It's simple. Never judge by words but by actions.

In this case she's choosing to go out in the city over spending time with you. A girl who is interested in you won't set up plans with you and cancel with you to go out with her friends. Would the average girl cancel plans with Brad Pitt, Chris Hemsworth or some other highly desirable male to go out with her friends? Not a chance.

Now since you say you are studying abroad my guess is that you're in you'e early 20s.

The problem is that you see this relationship as being exclusive whereas she sees it as being non-exclusive for the time being.

My advice is to go out with your friends and meet people, other women and enjoy life.

Don't try to change who you are but do think about your boundaries and what you are willing to accept.

Clearly what you want isn't currently in sync with what she wants so you can either continue what you are doing and she'll eventually cheat and/or dump you, or you can say hey I want this and this girl doesn't therefore I'm going to find a girl that wants what I want.

The worse thing you can do is waste time with a girl who strings you along, which appears to be case here.

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You are right, I felt inside that her words to me were not very genuine, but each time we met the way we interacted with eachother would convince me that I was wrongly interpreting her, me and her are just sexually compatible and thats what both fooled us into thinking the relation had substance. Since I'm here in China I'm learning so many things about life, myself and relationships its amazing, I love every second of it.

Anyway, since she's been gone I havn't sent her a single message, I whent out yesterday and found a girl who's better in every respect. I suspect she's cancer but I don't want to ask her because I don't like how astrology messes with my mind sometimes. It was almost the same as with the first girl, instant attraction and I know exactly how to treat her and make her melt. I just hope she's not a pisces, I did discover in our interactions there were definite differences to the first girl, like she would grab my hand if I let go of hers, which the first one never did do. Not even the very first night when things were really hot, I was the innitiator most of the time and she the willing passanger, maybe its a personal problem of hers and not mine, I suspect so.

This new girl also innitiated our first intimate contact by quickly kissing me on the lips when I wasn't paying attentiont to her, which I adore. When we sat in the lounge part of the club on the sofa I opened her up like a flower until she willingly sat on me to kiss me which is quite the feet given that the girl is Chinese and they are known to be very reserved and slow. She was sucking my finger at the end of that night.

Anyway, what the hell am I saying, I guess what ever pops into my mind. This first girl I don't care about anymore, I don't know if I cared much at all and maybe lying to myself. I just like certainty, either we are together or not and if we are not I can easily move on. Its the uncertainty that was killing me I guess, the mixed signals. All in all iv learned throughout my life to quickly get rid of people who negatively impact me, i go by the rule that if things move easily they are to be persued. Things that are very difficult are best left alone. It is easy to see how people make themselves misserable, I'm glad I can see things for what they are very early and act decisively, maybe this is why my "relationships" only last a couple of weeks on average.

And about the emotional side, I like to think I'm very connected with my emotions and I usually don't see them as a weakness, but I was frustrated when making this thread and my thinking and speaking at the time was like a blunt knife. Not very accurate.

As for the comment about drugs from the person above. Iv done many drugs in the past as a means to experiment, whether psychdelics to find the truth, weed, alcohol, sigarettes. Both psychdelics and weed (which technically is also a psych) are way too hard on me, I'm incredibly sensitive to weed and It has psychedelic effects, my thinking also becomes negative on psych drugs and i generally become incredibly afraid of the darkness I meet when I take them. As for alcohol I drink a lot when I go out, it is possible that somewhere along my life when I get hit enough times that i will turn to it. But truly nothing can be done about it, if i live a good life now it should prevent that situation in the future.

Thank you for your thoughts, this is a really intelligent community I feel, and even though I already knew many of the things you spoke about it is always different if someone reflects the things you already know back to you.