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next to neptune
Knowflake

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posted December 08, 2014 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know why I really had to be born the day that I did, or maybe it's not even astrology it's just my personality that sux, but can someone please explain why I'm such a big failure in everything? From finding a job, getting an education, having a love life and friends. Everything is a failure for me, and always has been that way.

I checked out my transits today and didn't even find anything that stood out.

I am beginning to think that I should just leave this life, because I can't take much more failure soon.
My bigger brother ended his life last year, and now I'm starting to believe that maybe I should just do the same, our family is not going anywhere, I am not going anywhere, and to live on, is just the same as dragging out the pain. I see no reason why I should live anymore, can someone explain if it's just written in my starts that I should leave this life, or is it not even astrology-related?

My chart: (Probably the most lousy, boring, pathetic and miserable chart you have ever seen)

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Southern Sun
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posted December 08, 2014 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Southern Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First, sorry for sounding a tad corny but let me tell you that maybe it's just my sag moon talking, but don't give up yet.

You are only a month apart from me, so we have similar charts--actually many us with Jupiter opposite the Capricorn stellium are feeling like crap, useless, worthless... I have my low days and then there are the rock bottom days. It feels like my heart is riddled with holes that I am sure cannot be filled.

You have to find a purpose and a reason to keep going. For me, it is dedicating part of my lifetime to helping my baby niece grow and live. There is still work yet to do, even though it feels like all is lost. All that matters is finding that truly worthwhile task.

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mollywu
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posted December 08, 2014 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I have had very hard life myself too, parents have been fighting since when they got married(I asked them to divorce when I was young). My mom has very poor health, but she is very stubborn and controlling. My brother's wife treated my parents very badly. Once I stayed at home for about 20 days, they fought for almost 15 days. I never had good luck in jobs even though I worked hard, but always met some freaky bosses. I had changed jobs, now my salary is still low compared to my friends. About love life, always met the wrong persons......I consider myself Sometimes, I am questioning why I am so unlucky, I also wanted to commit suicide. I had this thought when I was in junior middle school. This thought came to my head from time to time. I've found if I went to take a short vacation, talking with friends, I would feel better. Sometimes I think God might just test me with those hardships. I also told myself I should not be a slave of bad mood, I am the owner myself.

Hi next to neptune, don't do silly things. You are very young. Nobody will have bad lucks forever, nobody will have good lucks for good. Life is full of ups and downs.Setup more positive mindset, because life is so short. For the same thing, optimistic people always see the positive side. Even the bad things, we cannot change, just face and accept it. Change your mindset, you will see differently.

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Pretty Theft
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posted December 08, 2014 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pretty Theft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You don't have a terrible chart! You have a complex chart. There's a difference. I personally find that people with more complex charts lead to more complex and interesting people.

I am really sorry about your brother, and about your rough time. You have significant Virgo/6th house stuff, and your sun (I use equal houses) is most likely in the 3rd. With that Pisces moon (I have one too), your focus is probably on being of service in some way -- as hum-drum as that sounds, it doesn't have to be.

Venus and Pluto are in Scorpio, and denote a rather intense romantic and creative side to you. You also have a Grand Cross dominating your chart, as you probably know.

The best part about astrology is that these charts point to markers where you have difficulty and stress. If you're aware of them, you can do something about them! Remember that true self esteem comes from accomplishing something concrete. With that much energy in your chart, I am sure you can get there.

It could be worse ... you could have retrograde Mars in Cancer

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fairaqua
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posted December 08, 2014 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I took a look at your vedic chart.

Saturn is sitting in your 7th house and aspecting your moon (in the 10th), your Jupiter (in the 1st) and your Mars and mercury in the 4th.

Definitely don't be discouraged. Life WILL get better, you just have a bit of a delay on everything.
A late bloomer.

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theunknown
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posted December 08, 2014 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are life path 7 http://seventhlifepath.com/numerology/life-path-number-7/

Alyssa Sharpe did a vid on this too so check it out.

Plus you are a cancer rising with grand cross

All of these things just mean you are a late boomer. Faith is really important to both pisces moon and life path 7.

Common' !

That jupiter on your ascendant should cheer you up!!

I know the past 2 years are just bad for all of us...hang in there!!!

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LucieLemonade
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posted December 09, 2014 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Girl! You need to stop that right now!!

You do not have a bad chart at all. You are just going through a rough patch and as was said, you are certainly not alone. Ugh. It's been a tough last two years. Though things seem to be getting better.

I only had a quick look, but with that 6th house stuff and your moon in 10th, I think PT is right. You should get out of your own head for a while and go out and help other people who are in the same or worse place. Maybe this is what you should do for work, but maybe you should just do it in your free time. Helping others will make you feel better.

You might think about helping others who have also lost someone to suicide. Don't think of it as a burden you carry alone. Find others who have been through that and help each other.

Each pain we have in life helps us help others. You ARE strong and you can get over this.

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fairaqua
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posted December 09, 2014 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree. If you are feeling helpless volunteer some time to help others.
Its rewarding work.

Join grief groups.

My grandma had her husband of over 50 years waste away in the bed next to her for 2 years. Alive, but that was it. He went from a robust man fill of life to a skeleton in a hospital bed that couldn't talk or move.
A few months before he died she lost her oldest son to a prescription pill addiction. 2 years later she lost her oldest daughter, my mother, to alcoholism.
A year or so later a boyfriend of hers died in her upstairs bedroom of a heart attack.

She goes to all kinds of meetings for grief and support groups for family members with addiction.
She has found a TON of amazing friends. Every week they switch off who's house theyll have lunch at, some visit and eat with us for the holidays...

Im so happy she is with these groups. She gets a lot out of them.

Maybe you should look for something like this.

Please dont suffer in silence.

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astra7
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posted December 09, 2014 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you ever thought that it's actually not you who has something wrong with but other people? I see that you have difficulties with your mother AND father. If so, they made you to feel something is wrong with you. You were programmed to feel this way. Your task is to break out from such bad programming and be your own. You are fine with warts and all but you need to find that for yourself. From this programming, everything in your life is affected. For example, if your parents fed you with a thought 'you are no good' this will apply to your self-esteem and affects your ability to get that job or have meaningful love life.

Ending your life is not good. Have you ever investigated about reincarnation? You will be straight back here to re-do what you haven't done. So it seems to you that you will be escaping but you won't! Can you imagine, going to school all over again and all the other stuff?!

Looking at transit, tPluto is opposing your Chiron so the pain is brought up from the deep. tPluto will also visit your 7th house so you will be learning about power/control issues through other people and hopefully you will discover your own power from them. It may not be easy but it's how it goes you know. I'm having pluto in my 1st right now so I know. When you need to discover your own power, you need someone to show it to you so that you know bad from good way of doing things, then you can use it positively in your life.

You are a sensitive soul being a cancerian. I'm afraid to say that life isn't easy for many people even though you feel that your one seems awfully unfair. Before you decide, try looking around, connect with other people (on the internet) and see what kind of life people may have experienced. It may not be exactly the same and it is difficult to compare sometimes but there are people equally having a difficult life. Sometimes a person has no friends, sick, no job and have no family e.g. Me. But I have come to understand that I can't commit suicide but to go with what I have been given. OK, it's your choice to do whatever with your life and I can't change that but since you asked, I am offering my view on things and hopefully you might decide to investigate before committing it. You might be interested in the forum www.childpastlives.org/vBulletin/ if you want to find out about reincarnation.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 10, 2014 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trust not too much Saturn and be weary of Neptune in dark times!!

You have your Sun in Virgo. Virgo's tend to be very "mind focused" people and extremely organized.

Add to that the immense pressures that they put on themselves to make their lives...wait for it..NOT "perfect"...but manageable and productive.

You are not feeling this way right now- judging by what you wrote.And this feeling is re-enforced by Neptune/Saturn conjunct natally and the opposition of Jupiter that takes everything and "expands" on it.

Are you aware that the ruler of your Sun(Mercury) needs to feel strong in order for you to have a strong sense of self?

This means that whatever aspects challenge it directly(Sun)or through its ruler(Mercury), you must feel that you can overcome.

Natally you have Neptune/Saturn squaring Mercury and Jupiter opposing it; which , as I mentioned, tends to make things bigger.

So if you feel bad because of Nep/Saturn interference, Jupiter expands that feeling and makes it worse.

You are also enjoying the additional transit of Pluto/Uranus on your Mercury. This s heavy.You really can feel like you just can't breathe. Take your time.You really can.

First, we work with the transit-instead of against them and clear out stuff( pleasing Pluto) as well as change our immediate point of reference(pleasing Uranus).

Get out of your life for now and focus on something else; volunteer somewhere,move in with a relative(temporarily) or immerse yourself in church activities.

I am not saying that you now suddenly have to become all religious, but the point is to get yourself into anything that is easily accessible.

Trust not too much on Saturn and be weary of Neptune in dark times!! They can do you in and you have both messing with your Sun-ruler(Mercury)in your chart.

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Janah
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posted December 10, 2014 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Janah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Next To Neptune, I was taking a look at your lovely chart. You know why you face so many trials and tribulations, hardships? Opposition? Confusion? You've got some strong Saturn influence, which is whatever in my opinion. Speaking in the terms of Numerology, a lot of your degrees equal either 11, 9 or 7. Those are very psychic, evolved, powerful numbers, in my eyes, and the people I know who carry these energies have intense, sort of dramatic or introspective lives, but that is only because they are wise, old souls and they have a lot to offer the world, they just need to learn how to control those energies. You're in control, NTN, especially when you go with the flow, expect the best, protect yourself, but most importantly, believe in and love yourself and others, truly.

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Knowflake

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posted December 11, 2014 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for all your great advice I feel thankfully that people actually commented on my chart
Those of you who wrote about my past/childhood is right about that it was not all fun. It's hard for a 4th house/cancer influenced person like me to rise above the past and move on! I had a rough childhood because of a sick mother and big brother, a father who was absent (in his mind). I never got much support to evolve my talents, so I still don't really know what they are.
But I always loved the idea of volunteer work, and helping those in need. This is in fact also my career path, but I am just still under education and can't find a job, therefor I get bitter because I just really want to help, do something, make the world better, just anything.
But the idea of doing volunteer work where I help others is very great

I got curious as to why the past 2 years have been hard for everyone? Some transits going on?

But yeah, my closest aspect is mercury square neptune and jupiter opposite saturn, that pretty much sums it up. Confusion, critique of myself and all that. Expansion because of jupiter, wanting to make life bigger.
I think all in all because of jupiter also touching everything almost in my chart, that this deep wish of wanting to make things bigger is very strong, so if I don't really think I get anything done, don't think I help anywhere, I feel miserable

But thanks anyways<3 I just got to work hard, really really hard!!!!

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theunknown
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posted December 11, 2014 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^ the last 2 years was Saturn in Scorpio, so it was transiting your fifth house of fun, romance and hobbies. Before that it was transiting your fourth house. Wherever Saturn transit, it restricts and nake you learn the lessons. You have pluto and venus in 5th so that must've been rough. When saturn transit my 4th and 5th, it was the worst 4 years of my life.

It does get better, I promise.

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Knowflake

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posted December 11, 2014 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
^^^^ the last 2 years was Saturn in Scorpio, so it was transiting your fifth house of fun, romance and hobbies. Before that it was transiting your fourth house. Wherever Saturn transit, it restricts and nake you learn the lessons. You have pluto and venus in 5th so that must've been rough. When saturn transit my 4th and 5th, it was the worst 4 years of my life.

It does get better, I promise.


Wow, it will not leave until mid 2016:S I'll be 26 by then:S I haven't felt it that much, but I hope when it leaves that I will get more creative

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Ami Anne
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posted December 11, 2014 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron conj the ASC

This seems to be bullying.

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Knowflake

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posted December 11, 2014 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Chiron conj the ASC

This seems to be bullying.


Yeah it's also one of the though aspect in my chart I suppose? But do you have any tips as to how to get through it?
I am not the biggest fan of asteroid astrology, but I do think chiron has a minor effect on the chart... I was never severe bullied in school, but I have had many experiences of being "left out" of the group/community, kinda the same thing...

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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 12, 2014 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just wanted to make an example of when Saturn/Neptune working together can cripple a person and even influence them to take action in drastic ways.

The rapper Earl Hayes who shot his girlfriend and also turned the gun on himself,had a Saturn/Neptune troubling chart.

Watch how the Sun(identity) as well as the ruler of the Sun(Saturn) were under attack in the personal chart as well as with the current transits.

Also how Moon(internal life/subjective view)was also being stressed under the current transits.This is true whether you use Saturn as the ruler or Uranus.

His Sun/Saturn was conjunct in Cap natally
His Sun/Neptune conjunct in Ca natally
His Sun opposite Jupiter in Cancer natally
His Sun/Uranus conjucnt in Cap natally

His Sun cojunct Pluto by transit.
Sun square Uranus by transit
trUranus square nSaturn(ruler of Sun)
trSaturn square nMoon
trPluto conjunct Saturn(ruler of Sun)
trPluto conjunct nSaturn(co-ruler of Moon)
trPluto conjunct nUranus(ruler of Moon)

He was an already a person prone to go to very dark places(if his lyrics are anything to go by).

Plus he was a a double Saturn person; Sun in Cap with Sun/Saturn conjunct.Very melancholic placement.

The unpredictable natal aspect of Uranus conjunct Sun.the added transit of Ur square Sun as well as the trPluto in Cap conjunct on his Sun,made him a maverick during this time.

Add to that the naturally contracting trSaturn sitting on his Moon(its a cold,cold world/domestic issues involving emotional isolation)and you have someone who was not a happy camper at all.

I wish more people were aware of astrology. It would give them some perspective.

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