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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 11, 2014 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
I have sun conj Venus 4 degree (3rd house -Aqua)
I am not sure if it is combust or not. But generally speaking I was/am received well. Random people make compliments. I am generally liked by people (mostly guys though). However, recently I noticed a trend. Either people like me or hate me, there is middle ground. and yes.... I almost never favored by woman. Simple example: when my co-called friends (girls) host a parties they "forget" to invite me. However when the guys host a party, I am usually one of the first invitees. It is still bugles me. why?
I have never "stolen" any guys from any of my friends. as a matter of fact, I would not even look at the guy who is taken.

and... people tell me I am charming with specific "woman-child" charm. I am not sure why may be because I am slim and small? I am barely 5'2 and I do look younger than my age. People think I am my early 30's, but I will be 45 very soon
"small dog is always a puppy"


I think that that could be the "bad" side of Venus conjunct Sun. One also tends to attract unnecessary jealousy and petty nastiness from people. Because they perceive your nature a threat. Even those that you think are more physically attractive than you,are uneasy.

A person who is at peace with themselves, at peace with the environment and warmly receptive to ALL, is a beautiful,magical thing to behold. Very rare.

That is why I highlighted that the conjunction of Venus to Sun doesn't have as much to do with physical beauty as people assume. Not IME anyways.

Keep your head up.You have nothing to apologize for

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posted December 11, 2014 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
I have this natally! Very good explanation

Thank you to my room-mate.I observed him diligently. It annoyed him

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posted December 11, 2014 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
Does a sun/venus conj within 11 deg count as well?

What about aries moon quintile venus in cancer?

I rarely find anything about moon quintile venus


The quintile is called a "minor" aspect and is often ignored. Sadly

But I reckon that an 11 Degree orb of Sun-Venus does not "count". At-least not in traditional terms.

But if you find yourself looking at your selfie whilst reading this-and subsequently finding it hard to divide your attention. I stand corrected!!!

Coz Sun-Venus conjunct can be VAIN!!!

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posted December 11, 2014 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PeterPan:
Haha luckily no one has killed me yet. Maybe i should start watching my back...

Noooo!!! You will ruin that beautiful neck

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posted December 11, 2014 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Eh... Some aspects are overrated. I have venus conjunct the ascendant which is supposed to be another good one but I don't think it's all that great.

Spoilt brat!!! So ungrateful **walks away

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posted December 11, 2014 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ariestaurus:
I find Sun/venus people too self-absorbed. Everything is about them. I'm generalizing based on my experience.

Yes.That's the part that I would work on if I had this aspect.

But its a small sacrifice to what the benefits are.

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posted December 11, 2014 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Thank you to my room-mate.I observed him diligently. It annoyed him



I would add that I think the two effects that you discuss go with each other. I don't feel like I am good enough, but then I do feel like there's more to me too. I have Aries moon, Cap venus with heavy saturn so I have already told my Aries moon that I don't know enough. I always remind myself that I know more about people than they think I do, and people know more about me than I think they do.

Plus because of the square, and the view point that I do certain things to please people, the emotional attachment to people is also a lot more shallow. I can do lots of things to appear charming and make people feel good and recognize that they are attached to me more so than I am attached to them because deep down I know they do not know all the parts about me.

Anyway, I also have venus-neptune-mars-uranus conjunct so it's hard to tell if others with this placement only would feel the same.

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posted December 11, 2014 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Omg I know exactly how you feel... I'm a sun-mars person too, in virgo. If I don't feel productive I literally feel like slapping someone too!!!

It feels good to be angry sometimes, I feel extremely powerful and strong and gets everything done lol, like nothing could ever get in the way! It's a dangerous placement!


Yeah!!!! Exactly!!!!
What makes it even more dangerous for me is that my Sun/Mars square Pluto.
Mars with a orb of 3กใ44'a and, thankfully, Sun with a wider orb (almost 8กใa).
Too. Much. Tension.

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posted December 11, 2014 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
Yeah!!!! Exactly!!!!
What makes it even more dangerous for me is that my Sun/Mars square Pluto.
Mars with a orb of 3กใ44'a and, thankfully, Sun with a wider orb (almost 8กใa).
Too. Much. Tension.

Yeah wow! What do you do when you are about to explode then? I have mars as part of a T-square with moon and uranus! It's dynamite lol!

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posted December 11, 2014 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Yeah wow! What do you do when you are about to explode then? I have mars as part of a T-square with moon and uranus! It's dynamite lol!

*lurking*
When i am about to implode, I take a step back & laugh it off. Hot showers & hot tea help. Also very fast loud chaotic music helps so much. Good crystals if youre interested are rhodonite, (saved my life, it pulls the pain from your heart), tektite (let you see things from the perspective of a different dimension. Lol), blue lace agate (very good for smooth, fulfilling communication)

I have moon uranus sq and mars pluto jupiter sq. but moon trine mars so i have finally found success in channeling the energy

I too have had a venus conjunct sun experience recently and it was such a good time! No anger or tension or anything of the sort. I tried to let it stay with me but it's not the same.

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posted December 11, 2014 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PeterPan:
Haha luckily no one has killed me yet. Maybe i should start watching my back...

LMAOOOO WHO ARE YOU?!??!?!?

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posted December 11, 2014 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Aries23, You are most welcome sugar. You deserve it. I'll be looking forward to reading your analysis, do let us know when you have it done!

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posted December 11, 2014 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
*lurking*
When i am about to implode, I take a step back & laugh it off. Hot showers & hot tea help. Also very fast loud chaotic music helps so much. Good crystals if youre interested are rhodonite, (saved my life, it pulls the pain from your heart), tektite (let you see things from the perspective of a different dimension. Lol), blue lace agate (very good for smooth, fulfilling communication)

I have moon uranus sq and mars pluto jupiter sq. but moon trine mars so i have finally found success in channeling the energy

I too have had a venus conjunct sun experience recently and it was such a good time! No anger or tension or anything of the sort. I tried to let it stay with me but it's not the same.


Hmmm I actually had virgo venus conjunct my virgo sun transit around late september this year:S But it had absolutely not that effect on me... I was on fire back then also lol! But Moon and Mars was conjunct my sun and mars also... so there was a lot of dynamite there also lol

But I'm sooo gonna take on your advice! I already use the one with hot showers and loud music:P But I envy your mars-moon trine... mine is the opposition and it's creating all of these sort of tense situation out of nowhere all the time

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posted December 11, 2014 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Yeah wow! What do you do when you are about to explode then? I have mars as part of a T-square with moon and uranus! It's dynamite lol!


Usually I listen to angry music to try to calm down, but most of the time I end up beating and kicking things to let the anger out so I'm not the best person to give advices about this. LOL
And this is why you shouldn't have your chart ruler in Aries.

Lol, I'm gonna take @Selenite's advices as well. I believe that channeling the energy might help me control it. Hopefully. Maybe I should find a gym.

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posted December 11, 2014 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
So you guys are a little passionate? What's wrong with that?

Everyone keeps on explaining from interpretation perspective. Talk to me about your own wisdom with regards to this aspect( the good and bad) Really!


We have Sun/Venus conjunct in Virgo, that might one reason we are pessimistic easily. Ok I explain.
First gf is 4 days younger than me, she married to someone she doesn't love, now what her attention is just on her baby.
Second gf is 8 days younger than me, she married and has a son too. Her husband cheated on her a few years ago, she couldn't take it, she wanted to have a divorce, but considering her little boy, she gave up.
Third gf is 12 years younger than me, she married and has a son too. She found her husband has chated with lots of women and saved lots of pictures of them, he also met a lot in person. At last, she finally found the sexy video of her husband and the other woman, she divorced and left for another province for working... Now she is back to her husband(I should say ex because they don't remarry but still live together) because her son did so badly in school, she came back due to her son.......
About me, I never had luck in relationship, I am still not married, I don't know if I will get married. First BF lied and cheated on me, second bf had hot temper, now the current bf has hot temper too. I met some other guys I liked, but they don't like me or when I met them, one of us isn't available.....

I don't expect any happy ending to happen to my love life because my natal chart suggests me to move on and develop my ego this life.

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posted December 12, 2014 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]I would add that I think the two effects that you discuss go with each other. I don't feel like I am good enough, but then I do feel like there's more to me too. I have Aries moon, Cap venus with heavy saturn so I have already told my Aries moon that I don't know enough. I always remind myself that I know more about people than they think I do, and people know more about me than I think they do.

Plus because of the square, and the view point that I do certain things to please people, the emotional attachment to people is also a lot more shallow. I can do lots of things to appear charming and make people feel good and recognize that they are attached to me more so than I am attached to them because deep down I know they do not know all the parts about me.

Anyway, I also have venus-neptune-mars-uranus conjunct so it's hard to tell if others with this placement only would feel the same.


But why do you think you do that? Let people steadfastly attach to you, whilst you are not that invested?

I'm intersetd because I am assuming that it is the fear that you'll be foud out. That your worst fears would be relaized; that you are not "loveable" etc.

What do you think?

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posted December 12, 2014 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
@Aries23, You are most welcome sugar. You deserve it. I'll be looking forward to reading your analysis, do let us know when you have it done!

Will do

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posted December 12, 2014 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mollywu:
We have Sun/Venus conjunct in Virgo, that might one reason we are pessimistic easily. Ok I explain.
First gf is 4 days younger than me, she married to someone she doesn't love, now what her attention is just on her baby.
Second gf is 8 days younger than me, she married and has a son too. Her husband cheated on her a few years ago, she couldn't take it, she wanted to have a divorce, but considering her little boy, she gave up.
Third gf is 12 years younger than me, she married and has a son too. She found her husband has chated with lots of women and saved lots of pictures of them, he also met a lot in person. At last, she finally found the sexy video of her husband and the other woman, she divorced and left for another province for working... Now she is back to her husband(I should say ex because they don't remarry but still live together) because her son did so badly in school, she came back due to her son.......
About me, I never had luck in relationship, I am still not married, I don't know if I will get married. First BF lied and cheated on me, second bf had hot temper, now the current bf has hot temper too. I met some other guys I liked, but they don't like me or when I met them, one of us isn't available.....

I don't expect any happy ending to happen to my love life because my natal chart suggests me to move on and develop my ego this life.


Forgive me. But that sounds like Neptune/Uranus aspect to Venus drama. I don't think I would link it to Venus-Sun at all.

But maybe the weakness would be that I start to solely depend on relationhips(Venus)as defining me(Sun).

Or start to think that once my charm(Venus) fades, then so do I(Sun)?

Maybe I marry someone(Venus) due to the fact that they like me so much(Sun). Yet I don't like them as much back.Or I am not even sure that how I feel for them but lLOVE the attention they give me?

Or that I stay single,floating around and rejecting all advances because I am so inlove(Venus)with myself(Sun).

I can work on all of these

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posted December 12, 2014 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
But why do you think you do that? Let people steadfastly attach to you, whilst you are not that invested?

I'm intersetd because I am assuming that it is the fear that you'll be foud out. That your worst fears would be relaized; that you are not "loveable" etc.

What do you think?



Yes! I fear that they wouldn't accept the other part of me. I put up this whole part to please them ... You know?
It's a defensive mechanism to not get hurt. Hence this is the red flag placement for infidelity I guess...
It's sorta the relationship with the mother. My mother doesn't want me to be certain things so I put up certain part to please her. She's leo heavy and always needs lots of admiration.


I have been more aware about this part if myself after saturn in 7th transit... Saturn really makes sure I don't get away with putting up images haha. But I still haven't been able to come to terms with things yet. I avoid relationships and having an aries mon and a cap venus makes me very independent so I'm functional ... Without feeling the need to be in relationships

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posted December 12, 2014 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
Yes! I fear that they wouldn't accept the other part of me. I put up this whole part to please them ... You know?
It's a defensive mechanism to not get hurt. Hence this is the red flag placement for infidelity I guess...

It's sorta the relationship with the mother. My mother doesn't want me to be certain things so I put up certain part to please her. She's leo heavy and always needs lots of admiration.


I have been more aware about this part if myself after saturn in 7th transit... Saturn really makes sure I don't get away with putting up images haha. But I still haven't been able to come to terms with things yet. I avoid relationships and having an aries mon and a cap venus makes me very independent so I'm functional ... Without feeling the need to be in relationships


BINGO!! I get it.

My room-mate had Aries Moon/Libra Venus and was raised by a single parent.

I think she may have discouraged his more aggresive qualities(Aries Moon) and so, he learned to polish up his Venus in Libra to please her.

Even now, I think it is really sad how the "truth" his mother spoke,seems to be echoed in his relations with others.

Many people are drawn to his charms(Venus):Finding him very agreeable(Libra). They come in droves.

But what happens when they get to know him deeper(Moon in Aries)? Most are confused and detract and very few remain.

So this pyschologically says to him"My mother was right.More people like me when I am charming(Lib Ve) and not when I am assertive(Moon Ari)"

The hearbreak came when he fell inlove with someone who was just using him for sex/affection(Venus).

When he showed a genuine interest in the person-wanting to have a real intimate connection with the person(Moon),she cut him off

He started to be hectically promiscous thereafter. But I understood why.

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posted December 12, 2014 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The way to deal with this challenge is to still honour your Moon. To be your authentic self!

And that means letting go of the illusion of being "popular". Or being well-received. Because pupularity is a fad and if people genuinely love you, they will encourage you to be yourself.

So if people want to walk out of your life because they don't like what they see. Let them walk. Honour the ones that stay.

When you have this aspect natally or by progression, I think you also learn a lot about self-acceptance and being careful not to judge yourself on how other people "accept" you.

I would advise people with this aspect to have a "When I show you who i really am.There is no going back to who you thought I should be" bumper-sticker.

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posted December 12, 2014 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^ well my problem is a little bit different since I also have moon square uranus. I'm an aqua so being popular is less of a concern and libra venus is different from cap venus.

I have venus-neptune conjunct exact with a conjunct to uranus. So it's hard for me to understand my own energy. But I guess people expect me to be proper (Capricorn) and my wild side (Aries moon) thrills my aqua sun so it's no big deal. Plus the moon square uranus makes me want to rebel against what my mother tells me to do. I left home early, dressed exactly the way she doesn't like and make it a point that I'm not gonna change. The funny part is an aqua kinda helped me to accept my softer side so now I start doing more self-nurturing. This aspect is associated with indulgence in terms of food and material goods and that's exactly what I do now.
I haven't healed but I'm not in bad relationships. If a guy acts like he knows me but he only knows my cap venus then I move on. I think the venus-uranus conjunct letse be authentic to myself ...

Any way, thanks for the analysis. I struggle a lot to understand myself so this convo has been very helpful

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posted December 12, 2014 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Forgive me. But that sounds like Neptune/Uranus aspect to Venus drama. I don't think I would link it to Venus-Sun at all.

Yes, partly they have Venus/Nepture hard aspect, but not me.

GF 1 who is 4 days younger: Venus in Virgo 11กใ7', Uranus in Scorpio 17กใ32', Nepture in Sagitarius 17กใ43'.

GF 2 who is 8 days younger: Venus in Virgo 16กใ33', Uranus in Scorpio 17กใ32', Nepture in Sagitarius 17กใ44'.

GF 3 who is 8 days younger: Venus in Virgo 20กใ35', Uranus in Scorpio 17กใ47', Nepture in Sagitarius 17กใ45'.

Me: My Venus has no aspect to Uranus and Nepture: Venus in Virgo 5กใ57', Uranus in Scorpio 17กใ24', Nepture in Sagitarius 17กใ43'. I should be considered luckier because my Venus is in the first house, conjunct ASC for about 3 degrees, and Conjunct NN in less than 3 degrees because it said those aspects can add my charm. However, I dont' think so. I don't pay much attention to my apperance, I also think personality plays much bigger role in a relationship. However, I am not lucky at all....No matter I like or not, I cannot change, I will accept my fate- find my ego and try to be happy.

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posted December 12, 2014 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madgoulding     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think that that could be the "bad" side of Venus conjunct Sun. One also tends to attract unnecessary jealousy and petty nastiness from people. Because they perceive your nature a threat. Even those that you think are more physically attractive than you,are uneasy.

so that's what it is?

i get a lot of blank stares and get handled with kid gloves when interacting with taurus women. it's like they think my aquarian kookiness is against god's plan or something. i also don't get invited to girl get togethers but it doesn't bother me because i don't find them interesting enough to be friends with anyways. my sun and venus are conjunct mars, uranus, and neptune which squares my ascendant. i'm not aware of how i come off.

i do get a warmer reaction from men. i always thought it was my strong mars and sun that helped me get along with them. and they were the ones that invited me to the parties, the only girls that would invite me were my closer friends.

but it never felt like jealousy, more like rejection.

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posted December 12, 2014 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mollywu:
Yes, partly they have Venus/Nepture hard aspect, but not me.

GF 1 who is 4 days younger: Venus in Virgo 11กใ7', Uranus in Scorpio 17กใ32', Nepture in Sagitarius 17กใ43'.

GF 2 who is 8 days younger: Venus in Virgo 16กใ33', Uranus in Scorpio 17กใ32', Nepture in Sagitarius 17กใ44'.

GF 3 who is 8 days younger: Venus in Virgo 20กใ35', Uranus in Scorpio 17กใ47', Nepture in Sagitarius 17กใ45'.

Me: My Venus has no aspect to Uranus and Nepture: Venus in Virgo 5กใ57', Uranus in Scorpio 17กใ24', Nepture in Sagitarius 17กใ43'. I should be considered luckier because my Venus is in the first house, conjunct ASC for about 3 degrees, and Conjunct NN in less than 3 degrees because it said those aspects can add my charm. However, I dont' think so. I don't pay much attention to my apperance, I also think personality plays much bigger role in a relationship. However, I am not lucky at all....No matter I like or not, I cannot change, I will accept my fate- find my ego and try to be happy.


I assume the DOB is September '79? Saturn was conjunct Venus in Virgo from the 2nd to the 14th.Mars was applying to Pluto even earlier from 25th August to 18th of September. Neptune was squaring Saturn from 1st August all the way into October.

You guys picked an interesting time within the cosmos to e born. Yikes!! It is tough for both Pluto and Saturn to be involved. But Neptune too. Oh gosh!!!

G1, if born on the 12th had Venus conjunct Saturn,Mercury conjunct Jupiter,Mars/Pluto square and Saturn/Neptune square.

I am guessing she had the Moon in Cap and had to take a cosmic pick between Moon/Mars square,Moon/Pluto square or cradle both. All indicating a turbulent domestic life.

G2 also had the same Venus/Saturn conjunct, Mars/Pluto square,Saturn/Neptune square and either the Moon/Mercury opposition, Moon/Saturn square or Moon/Neptune square-depending on her time of birth. Also indicating a domestic life of throwing pans around.

G3 also is blessed with Venus/Saturn conjunct. But that's not all. Saturn also squares her Sun, Neptune squares her Sun and -depending on her time of birth- Venus could also be squaring her Moon.Top that with Neptune/Saturn square and serve...

And your pick on the cosmic menu sir. Compliments from the Universe;

Moon/Uranus conjunct,Mars/Pluto square, Moon-Mercury square,Mercury-Uranus square.

Spice it up with Saturn/Neptune square,Mercury conjunct Jupiter and Jupiter square Uranus.

Now the gods may have also offered you a choice(depending on your birth-time) of which poison to swallow;Moon-Jupiter square or Moon-Uranus square?

Both make domestic life well...interesting.

And to think that all of you were blaming Sun-Venus conjunct for all your problems...tsk tsk tsk. If anything,this aspect was trying to lighten the load a bit

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