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Topic: Exaggerated Self-interest...
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Odette Moderator Posts: 6755 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted December 11, 2014 05:04 PM
What aspects/placements would encourage someone to be very interested in their own person and talk about themselves at length? And what aspects/placements would make someone feel special, like they are always a cut above, or more interesting (more spiritual, more intelligent etc...) than the next person? I know the classic answers would be Aries/Leo influence... but I'm more curious about aspects... and anything else you've noticed? IP: Logged |
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posted December 11, 2014 05:20 PM
I think Mercury-Uranus hard aspects could give someone a kind of know-it-all attitude. What I say is better than anything you have to say kinda thing... (that's for the smarter/holier than thou attitude)I also think Mercury/Sun in the 1st can be like this or 1st stellium people in general. I am, in the sense that, I can talk on and on about myself not out of arrogance or cockiness or anything like that (I promise LOL), but it will be shallow/surface stuff, like stories or experiences or opinions. I don't talk deeply about myself much. Thankfully, I'm a good listener too. I think Mercury-Moon people can talk a lot about their emotions. Maybe even a tight Sun-Venus conjunction, especially if it's in the 1st or 3rd house. (talk about themselves at length/lots of self-interest) These are a few of my views on the issue... IP: Logged |
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posted December 11, 2014 05:24 PM
I was gonna say Leo before I even read it! But damn.... We do though. Another that I've kind of noticed is Cancer Suns, to be very general. I've known a lot of Cancers. Was married to one (Leo Moon though). I think they do it just because they need to be heard and to vent out their emotions. I knew a Cancer/Scorpio and she needed someone to trust. Once she trusted me, maaaaaaaan... she just talked about her and her problems. I didn't mind though. She needed it. Sorry I didn't really have any aspects in mind. IP: Logged |
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posted December 11, 2014 05:32 PM
Oh but what about planets in the first house? Mercury perhaps...? IDK. Just a thoughtIP: Logged |
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posted December 11, 2014 05:45 PM
^That's what I said... Fall BACK! IP: Logged |
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posted December 11, 2014 05:48 PM
Maybe Sun conjunct Mercury,Mercury conjunct Jupiter or Jupiter or Mercury conjunct the Mc.Perhaps someone with quite a prominent Saturn or Capricorn Influence.I think a well rounded person who is influenced by Saturn can be an upstanding member of the community.They are are hard working and responsible.Although I have noticed some who have forgotten their old shirt.Some are hypocritical,power hungry and think are they above everyone else.They seem to think that they are the only ones who don't do anything wrong. I think badly adjusted Aries or Aries or Mars influenced people can be a know it alls as well.They are usually confident,ambitious go getters but seem oblivious to how in your face they can really be.A lot of the time they get away with it because they have been put on a pedestal and are frequently excused because they are just hot headed and didn't deliberately mean to cause any harm.I fail to see how some people fail to understand how a Cardinal sign ruled by Mars could think that most things Aries does is done by accident. Leo would also be another which would like to talk about itself.I'm not going to elaborate more on Leo because a lot of people on here are constantly pointing out our flaws so there is no need to. Maybe Loaded 1st,3rd,9th and 10th houses would be involved with these sort of problems. IP: Logged |
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posted December 11, 2014 05:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by PisceanDream: ^That's what I said... Fall BACK!
That'll teach me not to read. No offense. I just don't read a lot of posts. LOL IP: Logged |
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posted December 11, 2014 05:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: That'll teach me not to read. No offense. I just don't read a lot of posts. LOL
?????????????????????????????????????????????? Leave this forum. I love how you totally proved the Leo hypothesis of self-interest in the process. Now, LEAVE! IP: Logged |
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posted December 11, 2014 05:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by PisceanDream: ?????????????????????????????????????????????? Leave this forum. I love how you totally proved the Leo hypothesis of self-interest in the process. Now, LEAVE!
LMAO! Wow.... That's crazy! You're right! Ok. I'm out! IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3089 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 11, 2014 06:13 PM
First house stelliumAries moon lol Leo heavy IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 20055 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 11, 2014 06:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by PisceanDream: I think Mercury-Uranus hard aspects could give someone a kind of know-it-all attitude. What I say is better than anything you have to say kinda thing... (that's for the smarter/holier than thou attitude)
I have Mercury square Uranus...and so does Odette. Love you, PisceanDream!! IP: Logged |
florence Knowflake Posts: 1281 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted December 12, 2014 04:30 AM
I'm quite like this and under mercury inconjunct uranus it specifically mentions this shadow side.Many of my aspects conspire this and it's hard to isolate the cause. I truly do get a lot of pleasure in my own world, my inner decor. But where it becomes unhealthy is tipping outer needs so much inwards. The mental/mercury aspects represent how this occurs including an imbalanced form of expression but as to why ... Since this has become more pronounced in me recently I think I can trace it to venus square Saturn (but possibly the clash of Saturn with a loving aspect/placement) because as I've tried to repress, turned away from love it feels it's turned towards Saturn but tried to bypass Saturn pain too - it seems to have landed very badly in saturns Leo house. It's almost like choosing a physical form of self love - to avoid being explicit - over a union with another. Of course that becomes more empty and unhealthy and cyclic over time. I don't fully understand depositors but I think looking at that to follow the channels of love would be worthwhile. Also uranus. Sag for know it all. And my sun opp asc has a strange emptiness that struggles to find accord with others. I've also mars squares which were mentioned. As I said, a lot of things in my chart. IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 6362 From: Love Street, she lingers long on Love Street.. Registered: May 2009
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posted December 12, 2014 04:52 AM
My son has a first house stellium and never talks about himself. He's a scorpio, so mums the word. But my mother does this, and also my ex mother in law. They both have leo rising. IP: Logged |
Blind writer Knowflake Posts: 627 From: Texas, USA Registered: May 2012
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posted December 12, 2014 05:06 AM
You're asking two different questions. The first one is easy - 3H stellium or a prominent MERCURY-MOON. Talking about oneself, being open to conversation about one's internal thoughts and feelings - these require MERCURY, or significant 3H energies (or its ruler).Now, about thinking oneself holier-than-thou or superior, that's entirely different. I would attribute that to a badly aspected and/or retrograde VENUS. SATURN deals with internal insecurities, which can be expressed in this way, too. Both of these in bad aspect to the SUN (ego), would probably indicate ego issues. Signs prone to ego problems? Depends on how you individually perceive "ego". Some would say say Aquarius or Pisces, who think they have the solution to all the world's problems. Some would say Aries, who barge ahead heedless of consequence or collateral damage. Some would say Leo, who prefer playtime and the limelight. Some would say Libra, who downplay everyone's individuality in favor of equality. Some would say Saggitarius, who value truth above all - and want to share what they perceive it to be. Etc etc. I personally do not think any one sign is prone to superiority complexes. Each manifests differently and is perceived differently by different people. Except in extreme cases of narcissism, most people are rather normal in their expression of ego, and just mix like oil and water with certain people. A miscommunication, if you will. All in all, what specific alchemical combination of energies translate to an offensive self-interest to you may just all boil down to individual synastry aspects. IP: Logged |
Vajra Knowflake Posts: 1737 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 12, 2014 05:44 AM
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posted December 12, 2014 10:17 AM
The most self interested person I've ever known is a scorpio sun and moon with libra venus and aries mars. Or was is the other way around with the venus and mars? I wouldn't be surprised if he had a leo ascendant though. Because my ex was a sag with sag moon and leo ascendant. And he thought only the things he did and liked were the best. Snd that he was the best at everything.. both of them were too preoccupied with thier physical apprearance.Another that comes to mind was a libra sun scorpio moon scorpio venus and libra mars. Scorpio asc. But with him he was mostly obsessed with his looks. Which weren't great. But he thought he was soo good looking IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 13, 2014 02:39 AM
Moon in the firstIP: Logged |
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posted December 13, 2014 03:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: I have Mercury square Uranus...and so does Odette. Love you, PisceanDream!!
*Quietly swerves away* Well, you know it all but you're not a know-it-all. Love you too! IP: Logged |