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PisceanDream
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posted December 13, 2014 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So...

I'm kind of having trouble truly understanding what it means for a planet to be afflicted. Is it when it's bombarded with many hard aspects or is it particularly having something to do with the nature of the planets involved when they interact negatively? For example, Venus square Uranus suggests that Venus is afflicted whereas Venus sq. Mars suggests that it isn't...

Can we consider Sun combustions as afflictions of some sort?

Can an affliction apply to a planet placed in an "incompatible" or "unsuitable" house?

I'd love to know as much as possible as I have read multiple different interpretations of afflicted planets.

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posted December 13, 2014 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Supreme cT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im curious about this as well i have moon square pluto i think thats afflicted

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posted December 13, 2014 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not an astrologer but I think contact to saturn, pluto, mars can be viewed as afflicted.

I personally consider a chart with lotsof square and opposition as afflicted. An afflicted jupiter can be much worse because saturn gets better with time, so does pluto.

Traditional astrology has lists of what's considered affliction specific to a planet. Sun-saturn or pluto are clearly much heavier than sun-jupiter.

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posted December 13, 2014 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An afflicted planet can be weak by sign, house or aspect.

Conjunction, opposition, square, or inconjunct are considered major stressful aspects. A planet caught in these configurations is afflicted.

Cadent houses (third, sixth, ninth and twelfth) are considered the weakest and planets are said to be weaker in them, thus afflicted.

If a planet is in the sign of its detriment or fall, it is said to be afflicted.

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posted December 14, 2014 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow... So then what exactly would it mean for a planet to be afflicted? Each of the descriptions you offered (SSS) describe a different type of affliction. So my question what at all does it mean? I was leaning more towards theunknown's description but I'm very interesting in your perspective.

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posted December 14, 2014 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An afflicted planet - could be a planet that took a hit from a cosmic object (meteor, comet, asteroid and so on). For example Jupiter - took two big hits in past years (one in 2009 and the other in 2012) - which translated on Earth as financial afflictions. And then there's the Moon, i mean - just look at it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iSZMv64wuU - look at all those craters (wounds) - left from meteor hits... so ravaged - so devastated. And, since in astrology - the Moon is representative for our emotional nature - it's no surprise that - so many people have emotional issues.

On the bright side - the Moon is slowly but surly - drifting away from Earth.... And the further it goes from us - the less emotional people are - till eventually we won't have any emotions at all. Yeeey! ^^ Oh wait... that means the happy emotions will cease to exist as well... Awww... I guess people will be more like iPhones then - iPeople.

Then again, who knows - maybe humans will evolve to the point where space travel is more accessible - and we can send some robots to clear those planetary afflictions - and everybody will be in a constant state of happiness then. ^^ On the downside - to much happiness is bad for us, it's bad for our brain - which in turn would lower the lifespan of humans drastically. I mean, what we call know teens - would be our elders at that point. And instead of growing old - most would reach insanity around the age of 17 (and i think i'm being generous here - cause I'm not sure the brain could manage that for 17 years - a constant production of dopamine, endorphins, serotonin and oxytocin) - and... i guess euthanasia would be a must - at that point, or else those who go crazy - will bring havoc among the other members of that society. A peaceful and happy society.

Just a wild guess. ^^

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posted December 14, 2014 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, when I used to read the things one of my placements spoke of, I thought

I could Really use some help in that area.

Cause they were rough.

Eventually, I realized that was exactly what afflicted meant.

How the things play out depends on whether it is a positive placement, or a difficult one, yet the things remain the same.

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posted December 14, 2014 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
7th Guardian, I'm not sure if I'm more amused about the content of your post or the fact that you took the time to write it all. But... Sure, whatever you say

I guess my question was more of: what is the nature of an affliction? Is it functioning uncomfortably, is it downright negatively expressed, is it struggling? I mean... I just think that term is very loosely explained but then again, I could be getting semantical about it.

Ellynlvx, so you would describe it as a part of your chart/planetary alignment that you felt you struggled with?

I'm not sure if I can consider conjunctions as leading to afflictions. I really think there's more to it.

I'd appreciate if someone could tell me if I'm just running around in circles or over-analyzing the whole thing.

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posted December 14, 2014 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I may.....

This is the way I see it.

I don't like to say that a planet is afflicted but rather that it has an affliction.
I would also say that the affliction is anything that causes the planet to not behave or express itself in the normal way that it should. (or adding what is perceived to be an unhealthy trait perhaps? Subject to opinion maybe?)

My mercury as an example.
My mercury is Virgo - great! That's home! Awesome.
But it's in the 12th. My thoughts are not always normal and can be very.... well you know. Out there. Plus conjunct mars.
Anyway, there are many many many thoughts... MANY thoughts that I keep to myself.
On top of that, it squares moon. There's a lot of internal tenion and difficulty understanding my own emotions.
DEFINITELY trouble expressing them.
Ironically, with that square, it's the more tender, sensitive, caring, kind, and loving emotions that get shoved into the closet and that I keep for me.
It's the aggressive, controversial, fighting emotions and words that is allowed to be seen by most others.

In that way, my Mercury HAS an affliction, but is not an afflicted planet.
In several other ways, it has qualities to it that make it remarkable, exceptional.

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posted December 14, 2014 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I get the distinction, thanks! Is there any point in which you would refer to a planet that "has an affliction" as an "afflicted planet"? What would be the essential difference between the two, in your opinion?

I can also relate, from a theoretical perspective, to the Mercury in Virgo parallel with it being in the house of its opposite. Perhaps the aggressive side of you is more readily visible to the public because your Mars is conjunct your ascendant?

What do you mean by "it's the more tender, sensitive, caring, kind, and loving emotions that get shoved into the closet and that I keep for me"? As in, you keep them to yourself or are only able to express them to specific people?

Sorry for the multiple questions!

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posted December 14, 2014 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
I get the distinction, thanks! Is there any point in which you would refer to a planet that "has an affliction" as an "afflicted planet"? What would be the essential difference between the two, in your opinion?

I can also relate, from a theoretical perspective, to the Mercury in Virgo parallel with it being in the house of its opposite. Perhaps the aggressive side of you is more readily visible to the public because your Mars is conjunct your ascendant?

What do you mean by "it's the more tender, sensitive, caring, kind, and loving emotions that get shoved into the closet and that I [b]keep for me"? As in, you keep them to yourself or are only able to express them to specific people?

Sorry for the multiple questions![/B]


This all just being my opinion of course.
My Venus for example, I would say *is* afflicted.
In Virgo... bad.
In 12th.... bad.
Square Neptune... bad.

And that's it. It conjuncts Mercury technically but it's by a long way.

"Kept for me"
Wellll....
Yes. It's private. Few see it. Even those that SHOULD see it, don't. It's weird. Like, people in my family know that I love them. I know that they know. It just shows, but it's not verbal and it's not very flashy. It's just more, solid and consistent. They just know that if they call on me that I'll be there. If that makes any sense at all. Yet, it's love.
Few see the raw emotion of it. Certain people see that side of me. I mean, truly see it. My family doesn't even see that side, honestly. Just last night my mom found out about a relationship that I had 4 years ago. She had no idea that it even happened! LMAO!
I don't know if I even made sense.
This emtional talk is difficult!

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posted December 14, 2014 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So you consider an afflicted planet one that is receiving multiple afflictions?

Yeah, you made sense! Totally got it. So it's reserved more for romantic partners, in general and particularly, your wife? Got it. Private Venus, private communication, private expression of sexuality. I definitely see what you mean.

Well, I'm not altogether that open with family. I tend to hide a lot from them, so what you just mentioned isn't so surprising or strange to me! LOL.

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posted December 14, 2014 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

smh @ 12th/Pisces
Yeeees... I hear you.
Correct.

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posted December 14, 2014 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't EVER "smh" me. That acronym is a bad omen

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posted December 14, 2014 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well as long as one of us doesn't lose our head somewhere then I think we'll be OK.
We're doing it again.
The train has left the tracks!!

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posted December 14, 2014 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know. The derailing never ends which is why I'm shutting this DOWN. No more derailing!!!!

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posted December 14, 2014 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Yes... I'll go run off and play now.
I gave my on-topic opinion.
Sorry, that really was my only intention.

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posted December 14, 2014 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't remember the placement now, PD.

I just remember eventually realizing that it means the same areas, but sometimes there are difficulties involved, sometimes they are assets.

Just depending on the way they are Aspected, Placed and/or Dignified.

DF, at least that Venus is in an Exalted House.

I think someone once said that when the Houses are flipped like that, they feel like they are torn in two different directions. Not unlike the Pisces Symbol, in fact.

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posted December 14, 2014 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CatMote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the way i understood afflicted planets is if they have 2 or more challenging aspects in relation to said planet, or their energy is debilitating.
i would consider my sun afflicted; it squares uranus, opposes my ascendant, and squares my midheaven, and is placed in my 7th house. (aries sun)
however, i rather enjoy having my sun square uranus and my 7th house placement. so it depends on how you want to define afflictions, but when people say afflicted its usually meant by something like this.

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posted December 14, 2014 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CatMote:
the way i understood afflicted planets is if they have 2 or more challenging aspects in relation to said planet, or their energy is debilitating.
i would consider my sun afflicted; it squares uranus, opposes my ascendant, and squares my midheaven, and is placed in my 7th house. (aries sun)
however, i rather enjoy having my sun square uranus and my 7th house placement. so it depends on how you want to define afflictions, but when people say afflicted its usually meant by something like this.

Yeah, that is how I have heard afflicted planets described too.

Meaning my Sun and Venus are technically afflicted. :/

I don't know if I see it that way though: Sun square Jupiter, Sun square Pluto, Sun square Mars, Venus square Mars, Venus square Jupiter.

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posted December 14, 2014 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Wow... So then what exactly would it mean for a planet to be afflicted? Each of the descriptions you offered (SSS) describe a different type of affliction. So my question what at all does it mean? I was leaning more towards theunknown's description but I'm very interesting in your perspective.

It just means if a planet is weak by sign, house or aspect, it is afflicted. It can also be heavily afflicted which means it is weak by more than one, let's say Saturn in Aries with square to Sun and opposition to moon is considered a heavily afflicted.

In my chart, nearly everything is afflicted except for the sun if you don't count the very wide square to Mars which I don't.


A planet is afflicted if it receives one or more tense aspect or is weak by sign or house. No exceptions. It's astrology. You can pretend otherwise but it's not going to change the influence on your life. Affliction is affliction. So you gotta watch the transits to the afflicted planet and those that are afflicted by it. Like, if you have an afflicted moon, watch the transits carefully and try to not take risks during a period the natal planet is undergoing aspects from others.

The energy is blocked by afflictions so it is not able to fully manifest in your life.

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