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smokeybeverly
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posted December 14, 2014 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for smokeybeverly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So here's the story.. There's 2 scorpio mooners, one with taurus sun has a scorp moon-pluto conjunction, another one is an aquarius sun with scorp moon-pluto conjunction also BUT has a moon-saturn square.

From what i observed saturn here tend to repress the emotionality even to the person who has most explosive moon sign. In this case this aquarius-scorpio with moon-saturn aspect mostly seen not as emotional as the taurus-scorpio one, this aquarius seems to hold back much and never let the emotions slip. Whereas the taurus scorp is more comfortable to let out the scorpion side...

I just wonderin and asking. From the perspective of those who has this moon-saturn aspect espescially the square? Do you still have emotion? Is there any major events in your life that repress ur emotions somehow?

Thanks for passing by..

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Lonake
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posted December 14, 2014 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm the penultimate here for this Q lol, since Capricorn Moon sq Saturn is in my chart, o and Saturn is conj Pluto too,

1) yes we still have emotion, or at least I do~ at least last time I checked

2) major events that repress the emotions? Nope. But, my expressive and emotive nature doesn't come out false or immature or 'just for show.' When I let it out its real and meaningful. And not as lighthearted with people I'm not close to and/or not comfortable around, so in that sense I do have a hold on myself.

But I also wanna say, you're speaking of an Aquarius Sun. They're not unemotional, but, I think they detach a lot, their basic personality. I actually dated an Aquarius/Scorpio and he was warm but not exactly effusive from the get go.

Maybe with your friend it takes time?


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smokeybeverly
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posted December 14, 2014 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for smokeybeverly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm maybe exclusive emotions is the keyword?
Interesting that u hv experience with aqua-scorp also... Do they come off as confusing person? Like theres this contradictive aura to them

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Lonake
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posted December 14, 2014 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, There's something about aqua/Scorp & Scorp/aqua that makes them v.intriguing, I think.

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I'm so cappy
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posted December 14, 2014 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I just wonderin and asking. From the perspective of those who has this moon-saturn aspect espescially the square? Do you still have emotion? Is there any major events in your life that repress ur emotions somehow?

Libra (almost Scorpio ) Moon square Saturn

1. Yes, I still have emotions but sometimes (often?) I hide them or repress them. I can be apathetic too. The easiest emotion for me to express is amusement.
2. I'm pretty sure some of the things that happened to me fueled my square.

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Nine
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posted December 14, 2014 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tough question to answer.

For me I believe this question begs to ask what kind of relationship you had with your mother growing up. I believe very early on I got the message that nothing was about me, or whatever it was I ought to get over it. Nevertheless, I'm very touchy and easily injured by offenses. For fear of being called petty or childish I've learned to never say what's wrong, so I just turn cold and freeze people out. This works in two ways;

1. It automatically resets the relationship. If the person is repentant, or I was too harsh, or [gasp] wrong it allows me to hear what they're saying and make adjustments.

2. More likely, I rid myself of $@@&% whose true self I was blind to, but put up with for sake of not rocking the boat.

I would like to think I learned this behavior (freezing people out) from one of my earliest friendships (6,7,8). I felt I was the stronger half of the relationship. I went to her house to play with her as she and her younger siblings weren't allowed to mingle much. I helped her do chores so there would be time to play. I helped her cheat on tests so we would both pass.

There was a disagreement so I stayed away for a couple days. Next time I saw her I walked up to say hi and pick up where we left off...she was having none of it - turned to stone. It was a first, I didn't budge just started playing with her kid brother. P!ssed, she went to my home and complained. Don't know what she said, but I was yelled at. It hurt, like a defeat. Last time I saw her I was 13, still won't even look at me. By then I thought she was silly, and didn't even care.

However, that icing people out forever without giving them a second chance was a nasty habit I'd adopted. Even when I know I'm being silly for whatever reason I just can't shake it. It's like I made a commitment and refuse to go back on it. vmh

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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 14, 2014 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have Saturn-Moon square.But I do have a Saturn Moon trine and my Mom says that I am emotionally closed off.

But in as far as the square is concerned, there was a Moon/Saturn transit square on Friday last week- involving the trMoon in Leo and trSaturn in Scorpio and this is what happened on that day;

*My Colleague- whom I have been intimately working with for a while and I was close to(Moon),was suddenly(square) moved to another section; thereby leaving me all alone(Saturn) for the rest of the month.

This was the most rattling effect of the transit.

* The taxi I took to work routinely(Moon) decided to use a differing path(square) that dragged for nearly an hour- causing me to arrive later at work than planned(Saturn delays)

* There was a "end of year" office party taking place that Friday afternoon. But since I am new in my job,when people started pairing up- i felt really awkward.I didn't know whom to talk to and everyone seemed indifferent to me(Moon-Saturn closes one up)

* My boss left early and informed me that he will be back next year 2015; thereby leaving me responsible for the section I am working in until he came back.(Moon-Saturn hands responsibility)

What I deduce from Saturn is that it is a period for emotions to be reserved. The effectiveness of reacting is evaluated and discouraged if it doesn't result in maximum output.

So the individual may get very emotional, but the logic and reason fight with feelings and calls for re-editing of the response and mellows it out.

When very excited, Saturn says" there is only one way to go next. Down". So the individual tries to contain the excitement so as not to "crash"

But the really sad part is that Saturn rarely questions sad emotions. If anything, Saturn digs deeper and makes one feel even guiltier.

*I was unhappy about my colleague leaving suddenly.As we were the newbies and both find the place we work in very cold. But who was I going to cry to? My boss? Not likely.

*I was unhappy about the late coming -which wasn't my fault at all. But what effect would screaming at the taxi driver have had. Would it reverse my tardiness? Not likely.

*I felt really frustrated at the office party. Everyone seemed to know everybody else but no-one was willing to open up to me. Who was I going to complain to? My new colleagues? Not likely.

*I felt overwhelmed by the responsibility of having to manage my section- being a newbie. So the sudden departure of my boss and his cavalier "handing over" to me, was not great. But who was I going to cry to? My boss? Not likely.

I am guessing that for those with Moon-Saturn square natally, the issue is not the expression of emotions. They have plenty(everybody does).

But the question is to whom? Whom will they offload on? And to what end will the offloading be effective?

For Saturn there has to be rhyme and reason.Saturn doesn't waste the effort. If its not worth jumping up and down for(in as far as Saturn sees it),the excitement is best diminished internally through a smirk or a brief smile.

Saturn has a very brazen way of "covering" an emotional dam with stoic cement.

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Kate August
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posted December 14, 2014 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kate August     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a Scorpio moon with a moon square Saturn aspect. I am very emotional and always have been. I would try and hold back but in the Scorpio moon way, I would explode when I needed to - into tears mostly. I was very uncomfortable with all this emotion but with a Leo ascendant and first house stellium plus moon conjunct Neptune, no way was this stuff not coming out.

It wasn't until I became a mother that I became much more comfortable with my emotions - more accepting and less judgmental of myself. It's a tough aspect but I love what Grant Lewi wrote about it. His theory was that this aspect gets much better with time and maturity, giving great power to the individual.

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posted December 14, 2014 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Supreme cT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by smokeybeverly:
Hmmm maybe exclusive emotions is the keyword?
Interesting that u hv experience with aqua-scorp also... Do they come off as confusing person? Like theres this contradictive aura to them

Im a scorpio sun and aquarius rising and moon pshhhh i really am a HUGE contradiction im happy astrology pointed it out to me its hard, always a battle between feeling to hard and feeling to little at times BUT im a very warm person, my aqua moon squares pluto and i have a scorpio midheaven conjunct pluto my 2 most dominant signs are scorpio and aquarius and to answer your question yes at times i can come off confusing especially because of my sagittarius mercury so what ever im feeling i say and if im feeling a different way than ill say that so yes a scorp/aqua mix can be very confusing

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midnightvenus
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posted December 14, 2014 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As an AQUA Sun with Moon in the 8H square 11H Saturn, I can say that yes, I still feel things.
Waaaaay too much, actually.

But I don't like to show them because I'm afraid people will say I'm being dramatic.
I also don't express what I'm feeling because I feel people simply don't care.

I guess that rejection in general strongly triggers my Moon square Saturn.

I read that even with harmonious aspects, Moon-Saturn can be difficult.

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LovelyKitty
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posted December 15, 2014 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyKitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just wonderin and asking. From the perspective of those who has this moon-saturn aspect espescially the square? Do you still have emotion? Is there any major events in your life that repress ur emotions somehow?
Hi, I have cancer moon square libra saturn ...well the domicile and exsalt planets square each others.
Saturn conjunct my Ac and sun too (in1st)

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I still have emotion, infact I'm a drama queen .which 's really different from the cookbook said. I don't reserved my emotional i.e. if somethings gone worst , I cry a lot but with my boyfriends or family , I'll not let anyone see my weakness ever (I think that because I have a high pride from Mercury and Mars in scorpio ) .

But my character is quiet and extremely introvert type , if I don't have anyone to talk to me for a few days , I'm still ok! And people who born with this square , many feel like there're cursed under the deep ocean , they tend to get depressive easily because this moon (emotional) is afflicted already .... like I do . There're many times in my life that I feel so depresed when I experiences the hard situation or places that I don't want to get involved ,it make me wanna escape but I can't , so my emotional is just simply deprived until the problem solved . When I depressed (which is so easily happen) , I leave people around me , I want to live by myself , simply I just don't want any social interaction i.e. just small chitchat or morning greeting with many co-workers can lead to fatal emotional deprivation . So it will look like , the square person has reserved their emotional but the truth is maybe they' don't want to reserve it but they are in pain or depressive mode that they don't want anyone to interfere with . And the things can be total opposite when they are happy , they can be more social and nicer like any other sign.

BTW , the other important reasons that they 're reserved is they 're very carfully choose their environment . It took me more than 3 times of meeting that I can have a warm greeting to anyone . Because I want to make sure that it''d be ok to trust anyone or any situation . The square person don't have a trust issues but it took them quite longer than anyone to break the ice. Eventhogh , my last date , I had a big crushed, I was very reserved with him at the beginning but in my mind .. On our begining , I wanted so bad to speak with him , to talk to him like I communicate with my closed friends , but I feel I just can't . If someone is a fast- date type , I think he couldn't wait for me.

So , in general , if you are closed to them and they trust you . You will know everythings about them , how they feel , they would talk to you .

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Yanmorg
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posted December 15, 2014 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon trine saturn natally.

I grew up in a loving two-parent home for the most part.

We weren't rich by a longshot, but I never wanted for anything.

My parents kept me grounded and loved.

I also have Sun square saturn and moon square uranus too so although I had a great childhood, it wasn't & still isn't completely breezy.

I am a Scorpio stellium. Scorpio is also the ruler of my 7th house and my venus in scorpio, in which saturn trines also, is my chart ruler so I am extremely emotional but saturn definitely helps keep a balance.

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