posted December 14, 2014 07:16 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Anything to do with state of mind, I would attribute to Mercury or Moon. Where's your Mercury at?

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posted December 14, 2014 07:30 PM            

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Do they aspect Neptune? I think that would give it maybe a flare for fantasizing, idealizing, and dwelling on something endlessly. The Mercury square Pluto is a very obsessive aspect. Moon-Mercury I can assume to think/speak a lot about their feelings, analyze them, compare and contrast them and constantly battle between the demands of mind and heart. I think that back-and-forthness would give a very energetic, receptive, and active energy between the two planets. The square add that friction and tension. I would call that aspect more an "over-analyzing" aspect than a obsessive one.

What do you think?

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posted December 14, 2014 07:40 PM              

I'll give it another shot with your aspects. So your Neptune opposes your Moon but doesn't square your Mercury but your Mercury still squares your Moon. I would still say that whatever Neptunian influence that affects your Moon will in turn, inevitably, affect your Mercury, even if its indirect.

posted December 14, 2014 07:50 PM            

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I'd like to believe that if Planet A aspects Planet B, and Planet C aspects Planet A but not B, that the Planet B influence in Planet A will still filter into or have an effect on Planet C and its interaction with Planet A. Does that make sense? Sorry if it's confusing.

I'll give it another shot with your aspects. So your Neptune opposes your Moon but doesn't square your Mercury but your Mercury still squares your Moon. I would still say that whatever Neptunian influence that affects your Moon will in turn, inevitably, affect your Mercury, even if its indirect.

Glad you like the explanation, sweets. Happy to help you!

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posted December 14, 2014 08:06 PM              

I see Venus square Pluto as having a very magnetic, dangerous, and mysterious social image. People who exude a very raw sexuality, one that might even be too raw or too intense. It might be the type that may lure people in but have them running if they're not up to the challenge. Not easy to handle. They become obsessed in matters of love and may often have a very 'do or die' approach. I also think that it might bring out the shadow sides of Pluto, obsession, jealousy, irrationality, and severe intensity etc. if it were to be left uncontrolled or if someone were to turn a blind eye to their tendencies.

Still alluring, still captivating but in that lethal, "you won't know if you'll make it alive" kinda way.

That's how I see that aspect.

posted December 14, 2014 08:57 PM            

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I think that Neptune's obsessiveness differs from Pluto's, in that the obsession comes from idealizing or dwelling or clinging on to ideas as opposed to that Plutonian forceful, intrusive, almost scary obsession with the object of focus. So I believe the nature of the obsessions differ but they are still obsessions on both ends. Except with Neptune it is more of an addiction, even. I think that's a better way to explain it. I would say that the push is ignited by the Moon-Mercury exchange amidst all of Neptune's work. It's a very rapid aspect. Strong mental/emotional exchange.

I see Venus square Pluto as having a very magnetic, dangerous, and mysterious social image. People who exude a very raw sexuality, one that might even be too raw or too intense. It might be the type that may lure people in but have them running if they're not up to the challenge. Not easy to handle. They become obsessed in matters of love and may often have a very 'do or die' approach. I also think that it might bring out the shadow sides of Pluto, obsession, jealousy, irrationality, and severe intensity etc. if it were to be left uncontrolled or if someone were to turn a blind eye to their tendencies.

Still alluring, still captivating but in that lethal, "you won't know if you'll make it alive" kinda way.

That's how I see that aspect.

And thank you so so so much for your kind compliment. I appreciate it.

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I see myself in both of the neptunian style of obsessiveness and that of pluto`s. And the explanation you gave of venus square pluto was very well explained.

posted December 15, 2014 08:27 AM            

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Moon pluto... Venus is what you value but moon is so much deeper
Sun pluto can be obsessive too

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Agree with this. I've mercury opp Pluto exact.

I've also moon quintile Pluto and Venus sesqui Pluto - although small aspects I do think I've been able to feel these out at times.

If I have felt them moon-Pluto is soo.. Difficult. Mercury and venus can direct the obsession outwards but it's like with moon the sensation is within - instead of projecting outwards it's like opening the self and then being drowned with it. Correct me if it isn't like that at all.

Venus Pluto I can't remember the sensation I felt but I think it was a bit like a romance turned right up, like being in twilight. Not to diminish the feeling as it was still harder for me than merc Pluto but I mean with that life and death aspect pervading it all. But at least venus with Pluto can work, there's a place for that shadow whereas moon-Pluto it's so mixed together it can't be worked with (but maybe after it reaps more rewards) and merc-Pluto feels like a constant evasion of ego death - because it's less confronting and can be passed through symbolic structures before hitting emotion, the rewards are held off.

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posted December 15, 2014 05:52 PM            

So the worst for me is actually venus in very close square or opposition to pluto, then comes moon, then sun, and then the moon in 8th house, then venus in 8th house and then sun.

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