posted December 15, 2014 05:48 PM            

Much of Astrology is trying to make sense of individual parts and put them into an organic whole. It can be a daunting task but I was BORN to be a teacher, so let’s go. The Detriment and Fall positions of planets will help one to understand the hows and whys of one’s nature. This lesson may help one to understand why one is so darn slow and so darn ineffectual at seemingly easy endeavors.

The Fall and Detriment placements can be likened to walking in deep snow. One must trudge with great concentration. A person with a planet in the Exaltation will be riding by on a bicycle( sans hands). However, the native with the Fall or Detriment will be lucky if he can reach his destination exhausted and water logged “Sigh*

I have Mars in the Fall, so I know of what I speak.
To put it simply, the planet in the Detriment or Fall does not function well. Think of a native Spanish speaker and a student like myself. I will struggle mightily to converse while the natural Spanish speaker will be speaking rapidly and confidently.

Let’s look at specific examples.

The Sun
The Sun is in it’s Domicile in Leo.This means that the natural self confidence of the Sun is most easily expressed by the Leo Sun native. The Sun is in the Detriment in Aquarius. The Aquarius Sun will not have the natural confidence of his opposite sign, Leo. An Aquarius Sun will have less of an ability for self promotion and extroversion. To put it simply, the Le native shines. The Domicile is a GIFT.

The Sun is in it’s Exaltation in Aries. Aries has a natural self confidence, as does Leo. The Fall position is the opposite of the Exaltation.The Sun is in it’s Fall in Libra. Libra Suns will, usually, be indecisive, as opposed to the Leo Suns who will jump in, feet flying, without considering options. The legacy of the Libra Sun’s Fall position is a difficulty in self promotion and self confidence combined with a plethora of indecision.

Remember the key word for the Sun is SELF. Hence, Leo will be confident in all things related to SELF.

The Moon
The Moon is in it’s Domicile in Cancer.Cancer Moon feels very deeply. The Moon is one’s deepest heart. The Key word for Moon is FEELING. The heart was made to feel deeply and empathize deeply. At this, Cancer Moon is the best. The Moon is in it’s Detriment in the opposite sign, Capricorn. Capricorn Moon will cogitate i.e plan and scheme in the situations in which he should feel. Know this when you meet a Capricorn Moon. The external waters may seem calm but Machevelli is under the surface.

The Moon is Exalted in Taurus. Taurus Moon is kind, generous and loving. Know that you DO get what you see with a Taurus Moon. Scorpio Moon is the Fall position. You do NOT get what you see with the Scorpio Moon. In fact, much of Scorpio Moon is hiding under the bed, so look for the goblins. Scorpio Moon is the most intense placement for the Moon. I do not think a person would choose a Scorpio Moon but if this is his Moon sign, know that there is an intense roiling of the inner waters.

Mercury
Mercury is in it’s Home/Domicile in Gemini. I do not believe Mercury is the ruler for Virgo. I think it is Chiron.Hence, we will deal with Mercury as the Ruler of Gemini.As such, Mercury loves to be in Gemini. Mercury has a continual party with words and quips and in doing this, Mercury is one happy fellow.

Sagittarius is the Detriment. I really do not know many Mercury in Sagittarius natives, so am loathe to address it. If you have Mercury in Sagittarius, please comment on my Comment Form. My guess would be that Mercury in Sagittarius may lose the trees for the forest. In other words, he may think on such a lofty level that he may be impractical. Jupiter rules Sagittarius and everything Jupiter does is big and bold. The details belong to lesser fellows.

Venus
Venus is the Ruler of Libra. I do not think Venus is the Ruler of Taurus, myself, so I will solely deal with Libra. Venus is in it’s Domicile in Libra. A Libra Venus native will be very refined.Do not engage in coarse joking or bawdy humor, if you want to impress a native with Venus in Libra. Save that for the coarse Veni like Gemini and Leo.

Venus is in it’s Detriment in Aries. Aries Venus is a strange one. The men need to be chased and the woman chase. For me, personally, an Aries Venus in a man would be the kiss of death for a relationship. It seems to be a very selfish Venus. If one could imagine a man stroking your head one hundred times and then asking you to stroke his head one hundred time, just to make it even, you may just have the essence of Aries Venus. I know I will get angry comments but I am dedicated to the truth and I will not compromise or capitulate.

Venus is Exalted in Pisces. Venus in Pisces will make your heart melt with his poetic gestures. If there is any placement which is “poetry in motion”, it is this.

Venus is in the Fall in Virgo. Virgo Venus would make me run away in the same manner as would Aries Venus. In the case of Virgo Venus, he is just too darn picky. Perfection does not exist, Mr Virgo Venus. However, that will not deter him from trying. Unless, YOU can reach perfection, you may want to look elsewhere. As an aside, Virgo Venus is very sensitive to tastes and smells. Also, Venus in Virgo does not like coarse joking, as its neighbor on the Zodiac, the Libra Venus.

Mars
Mars is at Home in Scorpio. Scorpio Mars is the quintessential super hero, wrapped in a James Bond debonair package. What can I say? Mars in Scorpio wins the duel, gets the girl and rides the Jag back to his bachelor pad.

Mars is in the Detriment in Taurus. Taurus Mars is slow and plodding. He takes as long to make a move as does Libra Sun’s decision making process. Taurus Mars may make very good moves once he decides. However, by that time, Mars in Scorpio has taken all the cards.

Mars is Exalted in Capricorn. If Mars in Scorpio gets the girl, Mars in Capricorn gets the job. If you want to hitch your wagon to a rising star, find a Mars in Capricorn who is at the bottom of the ladder. He will not stay there long.

Mars is in the Fall in Cancer. This Mars needs a fork lift to get him to express his passions. Can we say “shut down” I am taking voice lessons and my teacher said he has never seen a student who would not let go like I won’t.*Sigh* I come by it naturally. I am a Mars in Cancer.

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posted December 15, 2014 06:36 PM            

Always Truthful, but.

Once the Dentist's Assistant came in for the fourth time and said "Dr so and so will be right with you" and he hah'd and said "Right!"

posted December 15, 2014 06:42 PM            

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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
If I have Moon in the 8th house, is the interpretation for Moon in Scorpio worth for me as well?

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posted December 15, 2014 06:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
My Son is Sag Mercury, and he can be a bit blunt.

Always Truthful, but.

Once the Dentist's Assistant came in for the fourth time and said "Dr so and so will be right with you" and he hah'd and said "Right!"

We all laughed, but you get the point...

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That is cute, E

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posted December 15, 2014 06:43 PM            

*grumble grumble* please stop warning people. It makes all my plotting and scheming more difficult..

signed,

7th Sun Scorpio, 8th Capricorn Moon, Taurus Asc.

"Venus is in it’s Domicile in Libra. A Libra Venus native will be very refined.Do not engage in coarse joking or bawdy humor, if you want to impress a native with Venus in Libra. Save that for the coarse Veni like Gemini and Leo."

So true, coarse expression can be off putting to me. But I did date a very coarse Venus in Gemini and I found it sexy. But more often than not I react negatively to coarse people.

posted December 15, 2014 06:44 PM            

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That is cute, E

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posted December 15, 2014 06:57 PM            

7th Sun Scorpio, 8th Capricorn Moon, Taurus Asc.

ROLFL

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posted December 15, 2014 07:23 PM            

I have to disagree about Taurus not being ruled by Venus though. I don't know much about it, and I don't know what you would say does rule Taurus if not Venus, but I definitely see it as being ruled by Venus. To me if Venus is love and beauty, then Taurus is love and libra beauty. The loving side of Venus is best expressed in Taurus, I think. Libra might be refined and beautiful, but libra is also fickle. Taurus is loving and steadfast as well as physically affectionate.

posted December 15, 2014 07:39 PM            

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Originally posted by wheresthemoon:
Great list! I am mars in cancer as well, and it's true. It's so hard for me to get motivated and go after the things I want with passion. I would love to have mars in Capricorn.

I have to disagree about Taurus not being ruled by Venus though. I don't know much about it, and I don't know what you would say does rule Taurus if not Venus, but I definitely see it as being ruled by Venus. To me if Venus is love and beauty, then Taurus is love and libra beauty. The loving side of Venus is best expressed in Taurus, I think. Libra might be refined and beautiful, but libra is also fickle. Taurus is loving and steadfast as well as physically affectionate.

I'd like to hear your side of this too, these are just my thoughts.

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I LOVE Venus in Taurus. It is not a diss but I don't think there are two signs for each planet and I think Libra is the more natural home for Venus.

I would say that perhaps Vesta may be the ruler of Taurus or something not discovered or that I simply don't know

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posted December 15, 2014 08:11 PM            

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But IMO, it's not the worst planetary "detriment," provided we're aware of our flaws. We Mercury in Sag people just need to be learn to bite our tongues on occasion and be more detail-oriented.

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posted December 15, 2014 08:26 PM            

I really don't like holding grudges but unfortunately I do. Once I'm burned, I'm burned. There is no going back for me. Depending on the situation I can forgive however I never forget.

posted December 15, 2014 08:43 PM            

I have a very S-L-O-W fuse but it you badger me long enough, you will regret it

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posted December 15, 2014 09:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Once I'm burned, I'm burned.

I have a very S-L-O-W fuse but it you badger me long enough, you will regret it

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Hahaha me too. It takes A LOOOOOOT to push me but once I'm there, I'm there.

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posted December 16, 2014 11:20 AM            

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Originally posted by callarosa:
I have Mercury in Sagittarius. I can be impatient when talking to people; I hate it when people beat around the bush or try to play mind games. I can also be pretty blunt, although I've trained myself to bite my tongue when I'm upset. I'm also not very organized or detail-oriented, which are issues I always have to consciously be aware of correcting. I think Mercury in Sagittarius people tend to be "big picture" oriented, which is great for random philosophical conversation, but impractical when discussing real life issues.

But IMO, it's not the worst planetary "detriment," provided we're aware of our flaws. We Mercury in Sag people just need to be learn to bite our tongues on occasion and be more detail-oriented.

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posted December 16, 2014 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Scorpio Moon is the Fall position. You do NOT get what you see with the Scorpio Moon. In fact, much of Scorpio Moon is hiding under the bed, so look for the goblins. Scorpio Moon is the most intense placement for the Moon. I do not think a person would choose a Scorpio Moon but if this is his Moon sign, know that there is an intense roiling of the inner waters.

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Scorpio Moon here and I can totally related to this. The only way I ever feel really at peace and content with someone (namely a partner) is if they are up front, honest and transparent with their feelings and motivations. Otherwise, my mind starts racing with every possible outcome to a situation I don't fully have a grasp on, especially in matters of the heart. I will convince myself someone is cheating on me if I get even the slightest whiff of someone's feelings retracting, almost to protect myself from what I THINK is the inevitable outcome/worst case scenario.

It's very hard. This is not a "live and let live" placement...I never let my guard down. Sometimes I feel like there is no one that could possibly match the intensity of my feelings or fully understand my motivations for the way I am.

To a Scorpio Moons credit though, I am EXTREMELY loyal and loving. It's almost as if you know what pain really is and you want to protect your partner from that pain.

posted December 16, 2014 03:20 PM            

YES, they do seem very loyal!

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posted December 16, 2014 07:52 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I love playing scrabble, learning new words and expanding my vocab and I have mercury in virgo conjunct MC, I do have DRACO mercury-venus-mars in gemini as well and nortnode in gemini.

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I hear you about Mercury, H!

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posted December 17, 2014 09:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
For Personal Planets

Much of Astrology is trying to make sense of individual parts and put them into an organic whole. It can be a daunting task but I was BORN to be a teacher, so let’s go. The Detriment and Fall positions of planets will help one to understand the hows and whys of one’s nature. This lesson may help one to understand why one is so darn slow and so darn ineffectual at seemingly easy endeavors.

The Fall and Detriment placements can be likened to walking in deep snow. One must trudge with great concentration. A person with a planet in the Exaltation will be riding by on a bicycle( sans hands). However, the native with the Fall or Detriment will be lucky if he can reach his destination exhausted and water logged “Sigh*

I have Mars in the Fall, so I know of what I speak.
To put it simply, the planet in the Detriment or Fall does not function well. Think of a native Spanish speaker and a student like myself. I will struggle mightily to converse while the natural Spanish speaker will be speaking rapidly and confidently.

Let’s look at specific examples.

The Sun
The Sun is in it’s Domicile in Leo.This means that the natural self confidence of the Sun is most easily expressed by the Leo Sun native. The Sun is in the Detriment in Aquarius. The Aquarius Sun will not have the natural confidence of his opposite sign, Leo. An Aquarius Sun will have less of an ability for self promotion and extroversion. To put it simply, the Le native shines. The Domicile is a GIFT.

The Sun is in it’s Exaltation in Aries. Aries has a natural self confidence, as does Leo. The Fall position is the opposite of the Exaltation.The Sun is in it’s Fall in Libra. Libra Suns will, usually, be indecisive, as opposed to the Leo Suns who will jump in, feet flying, without considering options. The legacy of the Libra Sun’s Fall position is a difficulty in self promotion and self confidence combined with a plethora of indecision.

Remember the key word for the Sun is SELF. Hence, Leo will be confident in all things related to SELF.

The Moon
The Moon is in it’s Domicile in Cancer.Cancer Moon feels very deeply. The Moon is one’s deepest heart. The Key word for Moon is FEELING. The heart was made to feel deeply and empathize deeply. At this, Cancer Moon is the best. The Moon is in it’s Detriment in the opposite sign, Capricorn. Capricorn Moon will cogitate i.e plan and scheme in the situations in which he should feel. Know this when you meet a Capricorn Moon. The external waters may seem calm but Machevelli is under the surface.

The Moon is Exalted in Taurus. Taurus Moon is kind, generous and loving. Know that you DO get what you see with a Taurus Moon. Scorpio Moon is the Fall position. You do NOT get what you see with the Scorpio Moon. In fact, much of Scorpio Moon is hiding under the bed, so look for the goblins. Scorpio Moon is the most intense placement for the Moon. I do not think a person would choose a Scorpio Moon but if this is his Moon sign, know that there is an intense roiling of the inner waters.

Mercury
Mercury is in it’s Home/Domicile in Gemini. I do not believe Mercury is the ruler for Virgo. I think it is Chiron.Hence, we will deal with Mercury as the Ruler of Gemini.As such, Mercury loves to be in Gemini. Mercury has a continual party with words and quips and in doing this, Mercury is one happy fellow.

Sagittarius is the Detriment. I really do not know many Mercury in Sagittarius natives, so am loathe to address it. If you have Mercury in Sagittarius, please comment on my Comment Form. My guess would be that Mercury in Sagittarius may lose the trees for the forest. In other words, he may think on such a lofty level that he may be impractical. Jupiter rules Sagittarius and everything Jupiter does is big and bold. The details belong to lesser fellows.

Venus
Venus is the Ruler of Libra. I do not think Venus is the Ruler of Taurus, myself, so I will solely deal with Libra. Venus is in it’s Domicile in Libra. A Libra Venus native will be very refined.Do not engage in coarse joking or bawdy humor, if you want to impress a native with Venus in Libra. Save that for the coarse Veni like Gemini and Leo.

Venus is in it’s Detriment in Aries. Aries Venus is a strange one. The men need to be chased and the woman chase. For me, personally, an Aries Venus in a man would be the kiss of death for a relationship. It seems to be a very selfish Venus. If one could imagine a man stroking your head one hundred times and then asking you to stroke his head one hundred time, just to make it even, you may just have the essence of Aries Venus. I know I will get angry comments but I am dedicated to the truth and I will not compromise or capitulate.

Venus is Exalted in Pisces. Venus in Pisces will make your heart melt with his poetic gestures. If there is any placement which is “poetry in motion”, it is this.

Venus is in the Fall in Virgo. Virgo Venus would make me run away in the same manner as would Aries Venus. In the case of Virgo Venus, he is just too darn picky. Perfection does not exist, Mr Virgo Venus. However, that will not deter him from trying. Unless, YOU can reach perfection, you may want to look elsewhere. As an aside, Virgo Venus is very sensitive to tastes and smells. Also, Venus in Virgo does not like coarse joking, as its neighbor on the Zodiac, the Libra Venus.

Mars
Mars is at Home in Scorpio. Scorpio Mars is the quintessential super hero, wrapped in a James Bond debonair package. What can I say? Mars in Scorpio wins the duel, gets the girl and rides the Jag back to his bachelor pad.

Mars is in the Detriment in Taurus. Taurus Mars is slow and plodding. He takes as long to make a move as does Libra Sun’s decision making process. Taurus Mars may make very good moves once he decides. However, by that time, Mars in Scorpio has taken all the cards.

Mars is Exalted in Capricorn. If Mars in Scorpio gets the girl, Mars in Capricorn gets the job. If you want to hitch your wagon to a rising star, find a Mars in Capricorn who is at the bottom of the ladder. He will not stay there long.

Mars is in the Fall in Cancer. This Mars needs a fork lift to get him to express his passions. Can we say “shut down” I am taking voice lessons and my teacher said he has never seen a student who would not let go like I won’t.*Sigh* I come by it naturally. I am a Mars in Cancer.

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