posted December 17, 2014 02:22 AM            

But here's the real issue.. I have a man complex and I feel that I'm too insensitive sometimes. My chart is mostly air and I only have one planet in water, which is the moon and it's dignified. Not so sure why it doesn't seem to be working. Anyway, I have talked about this Pisces guy who had three personal planets in Pisces. I told him I just wanted to be friends while I figure myself out but my friends told him I said he was a p u s s y , which I didn't. I just said he needed to work on his sex drive and his drive in general. That was a plain critical Virgo commentary and now I can see why Virgo and Pisces sorta hate each other. He's so sensitive that I think I really brought his self esteem down. He had a sob story, too, which made me feel worse. He said he grew up heartless and cold until he met me. I apparently kind of "warmed him up" and taught him how to feel. I honestly need to be more sensitive to this guy. Any insight on how he works based on his personal planets would greatly help.

He's a:
Pisces sun
Capricorn moon
Pisces mercury
Capricorn venus
Pisces mars

Or maybe even a non-astrological insight. I do need help because I can't keep f*cking up good guys and letting huge d*ckbags win. I seriously wanna start over with him even though I feel sorta smothered.

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Gemini Rising
Sun in Leo (2nd house)
Moon in Cancer (1st house)
Mercury in Virgo (3rd house conj.)
Venus in Virgo (3rd house)
Mars in Libra (5th house)

posted December 17, 2014 02:40 AM            

It sounds like the kinda crap I said when I was a younger Capricorn moon. I was being very over dramatic and slightly manipulative.

If he's young, don't worry. He'll get over it. If he's old and still saying he grew up cold and heartless and just now got over it - well, I wouldn't trust him. Chances are someone old just getting a mushy heart is probably just manipulating.

posted December 17, 2014 03:02 AM            

From my own experience - and I don't know any other Cappy moons - it's just an awkward moon to manage early on. He'll be quite fine in the long run with whatever you choose. The guy will learn to balance that water sun energy with the moon in detriment.

It's a very odd combination. The water sun makes the person connected to emotion but the Capricorn moon finds it uncomfortable and works to suppress it. So when I had my first few crushes, and first major girlfriend the emotions expressed were very over dramatic and manipulative - though not always intentional.

But I do stress my experience is of a Scorpio with Cap rather than Pisces. I would imagine the jealous and manipulative nature of a young scorpio plays it out differently

posted December 17, 2014 03:18 AM            

He is ruled by Saturn as well, in fact he has a Saturn and Neptune signature, look up Saturn and Neptune aspects to get a general idea how these two planets act together. Also Jupiter and Saturn aspects.

Synastry chart -- is there a lot of heavy Venus, Pluto, Mars connections

Ask him directly why do you make him feel not cold, what does he really want out of the relationship. Make him explain himself. If he is being sincere it will come through. You have to break Pisces people down when they are coming across as ambivalent, I know this from experience, they will hide and manipulate and play games, but they can't do this for long, because they will eventually spill the beans, Neptune always spills -- watch his eyes, they will be a dead giveaway.

Don't be afraid to tell him to back off, Saturn ruled people can be restrictive and demanding and not realize it. Pisces people are not babies, so don't be afraid that they will break or something, that is just a facade they use, they are very strong people when they want to be.

posted December 17, 2014 03:19 AM            

No man/woman ever wants to hear that.

If Mars/Mercury was transiting Sun by conjunction the day of birth,he is someone who is strongly focused on his ego.And probably defines himself in a masculine)way.

And since Pisces is the energy in which the Sun was found, you can be sure that he is sensitive and internalizes a lot of stuff.

If Sun is the ruler of the 1st house/5th. You can be sure that much of what is said above applies.

If the Moon was trasiting Venus by conjunction(at the times of birth),he is likely to be romantic and agreeable.

This is especially so, if Venus rules 1st,7th,5th house.

But with Cap there, he is unlikely to be "over the top". Saturn ruled Cap tends to limit everthing. Everything including the frivolity of romantic attachment.

So I don't think this aspect would object to you needing space.

posted December 17, 2014 03:53 AM            

I say this as a PiscesSun/CapricornMoon/CapricornVenus like your specimen.

1) "He said he grew up heartless and cold until he met me." <--- That's really creepy. If anyone said that to me, no matter my age or theirs, etc. I'd run in the opposite direction. I'm serious. We would not be talking. Now if that's how your generation jokes around, cos the younger people I've noticed say things in a different way, then.. OK.. I guess? But my generation, and older, heck no. I would run.

2) I don't like that he's victimizing himself in order to win some sympathy vote and get you to pay attn to him. At that age, excuse my french, makes it sound like he doesn't have the balls to go after you, or anything, he wants. He's taking the easy route and showing zero initiative. They do that wounded puppy routine. The wounded puppy ime doesn't grow up to be a man. But, maybe im taking the victim thing out of context and not reading it the right way.

Doesn't sound like anyone I'd want to be involved with at 16 or whatever.

But good luck if you still want him.

posted December 17, 2014 10:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Koho:
How old is he?

It sounds like the kinda crap I said when I was a younger Capricorn moon. I was being very over dramatic and slightly manipulative.

If he's young, don't worry. He'll get over it. If he's old and still saying he grew up cold and heartless and just now got over it - well, I wouldn't trust him. Chances are someone old just getting a mushy heart is probably just manipulating.

But I'm a Scorpio Sun with The Cappy moon. I can be fairly cynical in my analysis of people.

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Sounds like a pisces thing too. Saying that you're the one that made him feel love for the first time so you'll want to run to him and rescue him.

To the op, if you feel smothered then stop talking to him. You'll just hurt his feelings even more in the long run and you'll be fighting for a breath of fresh air. Typicallt, the dynamic in the beginning of a relationship gets much worse ss it develops. He's going to get more sad and needy and you'll get more suffocated and insensitive.

posted December 17, 2014 06:27 PM            

My friends also made fun of him, which I really got ****** about because I don't like it when people make fun of others (even though it's true). He got mad too. He's very sweet, but he lacks drive. And something did happen between us that made my friends want to call him a p u s s y.

His venus and moon don't conjunct, his mercury and mars don't either.. but he has jupiter, mercury, and sun conjunct.

Honestly, I'm not that into him, but I'm feeling really sorry for him and I keep thinking, what if I throw away a good guy for no reason? That's what I'm scared of.

posted December 18, 2014 10:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:

Honestly, I'm not that into him, but I'm feeling really sorry for him and I keep thinking, what if I throw away a good guy for no reason? That's what I'm scared of.

I always rationalize things because I can't separate emotions from intuition. If that makes any sense.. Cancer moon is so unmanageable sometimes.

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Yeah then don't do anything else. I know you feel sorry for him but if you pursue a relationship because of that you'll be feeling more sorry for him later when he'll undoubtedly get more hurt.

Also if you're going to pursue a relationship because you just want to snag a "good" guy when you're not all that into him, it's a little selfish. And you'll never be satisfied with him anyway.

posted December 18, 2014 10:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Pisces Mars. Keep walking. LOL

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