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Ami Anne
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posted December 18, 2014 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am all about simple. I am all about accessible. The last esoteric thing I read was in Grad School: a book which made no sense. I vowed never to read anything that made no sense again. If an author cannot tell you a subject simply, it is not worth your time to read. Of course, Geminis have to make it fun, too, but that is an added bonus

In that spirit, we will explore some do it yourself ways to help yourself understand yourself better.If you go for counseling, take your chart. It would take a counselor hundreds of years to figure out who you are without it. After that time, it won’t matter.

Saturn Conjunctions

What touches Saturn spells S-T-R-U-G-G-L-E. This is the same for a planet, asteroid or angle. Saturn will reward your struggle but it will be long and hard. Does anything good come easily? Not really. This struggle would be in the manner of a person starting a new business. He will fret and fume and fess. He will lie awake at nights and wonder if it will succeed. He will work and work and work. Slowly, it will be successful. Slowly, he will reap the rewards. One day, he can look back and see that he DID overcome. Then, he has a personal pride which none can take away. That would be a word picture of Saturn.

Let’s give some real life examples. I will use myself because if you read my website, you can see that I struggle to put forth my authentic voice. If you read my articles, that is my theme in article after article. I have Echo conjunct Saturn. Echo has no voice. She is the classic co-dependent, in modern day terms. She has no reality of self unless Narcissus sees her. Narcissus cannot see her because he is staring at his reflection in the pool. Narcissus is not a hero. He is as stuck in his predicament, as is Echo. He cannot see beyond himself. Echo cannot see herself because she is waiting to be awakened by him. How modern is this story, though? It is one of my stories. I bet it is one of many of yours.

I will give you another example of a person I know. This mother has Ceres conjunct Saturn. She can’t seem to nurture. She wants to. When Saturn conjuncts anything, the native has a HUGE struggle and desire to express it. The native has a struggle akin to losing 500 pounds. Have you ever tried to lose 10 pounds? That can seem daunting. One gets obsessed with food and with the scale. In the same way, one gets obsessed with anything that conjuncts Saturn.

Let me give you another example. One man has Saturn conjunct Eros. He is obsessed with sex. One might think a sex obsession would be a good thing but no obsession is a good thing. It is a tormented thing.

Let’s look at some planets. Saturn conjunct Venus makes for a native who feels she has to be perfect to be loved. Saturn conjunct the Moon makes for a native who feels she has to have perfect emotions. She may have a lot of guilt for normal feelings.

Let’s look at some angle. Saturn conjunct the MC seems very hard. The people I have seen with this seem very, very insecure, painfully so. Saturn conjunct the ASC may give a stern appearance. The person may have had a hard childhood and had to grow up very fast. This would be the placement for the child who is the proverbial old man. In many cases, these natives have tooth and bone problems, as well.

Before we leave Saturn, let me add some other facts for you. The House of Saturn is where we learn lessons of maturity. We may struggle with this house for a very long time, but if we stick with it, we shall prevail. I will give some examples. If one has Saturn in the 2nd House, one may struggle with money. If one has Saturn in the 3rd House, one may struggle with a learning disability, a stutter, extreme shyness or bad sibling relationships. If one has Saturn in the 7th House, one may struggle with serious, long term relationships. If one has Saturn in the 8th house, one may be sexually repressed. If one has Saturn in the 12th house, one may always feel “alone in a crowd”.


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ikja
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posted December 18, 2014 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn in 2nd House.
I struggle with money all the time. When I have it, I am very generous with it. However, when I do not have money, I can never seem to rely on anyone to help.
People always seem to ask me for money and I just keep giving it like a fool.

I also have Saturn conjunct Uranus and Neptune. I STRUGGLE with sudden change. I do not mind change that I have planned and actively brought about, but unexpected change really throws me off. Like really struggle. It upsets me.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 18, 2014 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great insights, I! Thank you.

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sweet-scorpion
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posted December 18, 2014 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good article! I always enjoy your insights.

I like what you mentioned about hard work and difficulties equating to pride and maturity that develops later. It is the struggle itself that one ends up looking back on and saying, That was not a struggle but a challenge, and now look at my reward! It's almost like when the lesson is learned, one's perspective changes entirely on the issues created by Saturn. This 'flip' almost reminds me of a teenaged kid hating his stern father, then looking back on the discipline he received 20 years later and being grateful for it.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 18, 2014 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you SS
That is very well put. How have you been?

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posted December 18, 2014 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you SS
That is very well put. How have you been?


Of course! You are a good writer. Also thanks for asking about me, I've been so-so. Some good things, other bad things... I have a lot of hope, but also a lot of concerns for my immediate future and plans. How are you doing?

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Ami Anne
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posted December 19, 2014 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Talk to me, if you want,SS. This is my thread. I can de rail it

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Libracorn
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posted December 19, 2014 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libracorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ikja:
I have Saturn in 2nd House.
I struggle with money all the time. When I have it, I am very generous with it. However, when I do not have money, I can never seem to rely on anyone to help.
People always seem to ask me for money and I just keep giving it like a fool.

I also have Saturn conjunct Uranus and Neptune. I STRUGGLE with sudden change. I do not mind change that I have planned and actively brought about, but unexpected change really throws me off. Like really struggle. It upsets me.


I do exactly the same thing you just said above. I have Saturn in the 2nd house as well, and I tend to just give away and spend money for the heck of it as well. I'm very generous especially when it comes to buying things for other people, I have Venus trine Jupiter exact, so I think that has a bit to do with it as well.

But I feel as if when I'm broke, I get money soon and randomly. But I should still be careful with Saturn in the 2nd house. The only thing I can't agree on with you is not having people to rely on as far as financial situations are concerned. Typically, my mom helps me if I'm struggling. But like I said, whenever I'm broke, money comes falling out of the sky for me. I think that also can be attributed to my Venus/Jupiter aspect - Venus Trine Jupiter gives luck in aspects of love and finances.

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