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Ami Anne
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posted December 21, 2014 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a current fascination with Chiron in the 12th. I have noticed that when I do the charts of the natives with Chiron in the 12th, they, often, say they do not feel their pain. I count a planet in the 12th House when it is ten or more degrees away from the Ascendent. If it is closer, I count the planet as conjunct the Ascendent. There is a tremendous difference in the two placements, as different as night and day, so please note this when you look at your own charts.

Back to Chiron, a native with a true Chiron in the 12th seems to take one of two stances. One stance is that he has gotten over his pain. The other is that he does not know it is there. I have seen this in almost every single chart I have done with this placement. Hence, I am writing this article to try to understand more.

For the people with Chiron in the 12th, I would like to know if you relate to the above. For anyone else, please share your opinion and experience, so we can all learn more about this placement.

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wheresthemoon
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posted December 21, 2014 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheresthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is conjunct the ascendant, since you count them differently. About 4 degrees away.

But I do feel that I am one who pretends (in my real life) to have gotten over my pain. In reality it feels like the wound that never heals.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 21, 2014 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by wheresthemoon:
Mine is conjunct the ascendant, since you count them differently. About 4 degrees away.

But I do feel that I am one who pretends (in my real life) to have gotten over my pain. In reality it feels like the wound that never heals.



YES, I feel that way about my Chiron, too( 4th House)

For you, I see Chiron conj the ASC as being bullied but the conj must be close.

4 degrees would be too wide for me to call that for it.

I call a planet 1st house if it is within 10 degrees of the ASC but Chiron may function differently

Chiron is a mobius strip planet. It seems to follow different rules lol

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posted December 21, 2014 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheresthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

YES, I feel that way about my Chiron, too( 4th House)

For you, I see Chiron conj the ASC as being bullied but the conj must be close.

4 degrees would be too wide for me to call that for it.

I call a planet 1st house if it is within 10 degrees of the ASC but Chiron may function differently

Chiron is a mobius strip planet. It seems to follow different rules lol



Eh, we've all been bullied to some extent, but bullying has played a small role in my life. And the bullying I did experience felt more underhanded...just being left out of activities and things like that. It was more how people's actions made me feel than that they were so terrible or could even accurately be called bullying. All in all I wouldn't say that I am a victim in that sense. Chiron in 12H seems to make more sense to me.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 21, 2014 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES, for you, Chiron in the 12th feels more right. Hence, Chiron operates differently than other planets in that they need a 10 degree orb, in my opinion and Chiron does not seem to.

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DaniPepper87
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posted December 22, 2014 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron in the 12th house is better than a 8th house one...

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Ami Anne
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posted December 22, 2014 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 12th House is always the harder house for anything imo, Dani.

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posted December 22, 2014 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron in the 12th conj saturn. Both in pisces.

I choose forgiveness.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 22, 2014 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How have you been Gypsee?

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GypseeWind
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posted December 22, 2014 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm good Ami, how are you doing??

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Ami Anne
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posted December 22, 2014 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ummm, Gypsee....................... Depends LOL

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