posted December 26, 2014 10:03 AM            

I have a Grand Cross between these sets of planets with the following orbs:

1. Pluto 27Sc & NN 2Sag
2. Saturn 27Aq & Pallas 4Pi
3. SN 2Gem & DNA 4Gem
4. Vertex at 29Leo, sitting on top of Regulus the fixed star

The Grand Cross is a mix of both mutable and fixed sign positions in my case, so not sure if I can precisely place it there.. I am also illiterate about the orb to be considered while considering a Grand Cross.

Any thoughts on what this could mean in general?

posted December 26, 2014 03:57 PM            

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Originally posted by affy:
Sometimes, I can be very blind towards the internal issues that I miss out some big things like these.

I have a Grand Cross between these sets of planets with the following orbs:

1. Pluto 27Sc & NN 2Sag
2. Saturn 27Aq & Pallas 4Pi
3. SN 2Gem & DNA 4Gem
4. Vertex at 29Leo, sitting on top of Regulus the fixed star

The Grand Cross is a mix of both mutable and fixed sign positions in my case, so not sure if I can precisely place it there.. I am also illiterate about the orb to be considered while considering a Grand Cross.

Any thoughts on what this could mean in general?

P.S. Please ignore the asteroids if you wish, but do consider the main planets and points.

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Consider as well that by definition your Anti-Vertex would fall at 29 Aqua. So your Vertex axis is square your Node axis.

I have a T square with Merc as the focus of a Uranus-Saturn opposition. Mercury is also conjunct 0°5' my Vertex, so my Anti-Vertex completes the cross. However, it "feels" more complete when I'm in a relationship with someone who places a planet there, especially something like Venus or Moon.

posted December 27, 2014 04:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:

In your case, I would imagine you attract people that have a personal planet in late Leo or Aqua and those people are the people that help you grow toward your NN, though with the Pluto-Saturn square, not without a little "creative destruction and rebirth" in your life.

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Right, I completely forgot about the antiVertex.

I have to say most of my relationships go through the destruction-rebirth cycle over and over again. It is literally IMPOSSIBLE to cut out a relationship from my life. It revives itself every alternate year. With a different dynamic.

For example, I go through with a relationship, break up, and a year or two later, we become good buddies, and then there's potential to the relationship again. Your thought on it, makes perfect sense into my life.

I have to ask though, is that the norm to expect and be with, or is there something I have to do to break this cycle?

posted December 30, 2014 06:01 PM            

I notice that I have very strong relationships with Pluto-dominant people, and the relationships are mostly phoenix like--they go on for a long time, then they crash and burn, and somehow emerge again from the ashes. As I said, impossible to let go.

Okay, so to compile it into a sentence: Structures(Saturn) formed by fate & chance(Vertex & NN) broken down time and again to be renewed(Pluto).

I'm guessing it brings out the worst in every planet that resides in the Grand Cross. The worst in Saturn would be the rigidness. The worst in Pluto is the complete breakdown and inability to handle such an event.

Hope this helps your thought process, thequeen

posted December 31, 2014 03:26 AM            

For Cancer Sun / Libra Moon (me) this is a bit difficult to handle. I'm introvert, but I guess Capricorn takes it to some other level.

Does the depression really have this huge impact on you. I mean sorry if I'm intruding, but if you like someone and things go awry how do you react?

Because I've Saturn involved in two Grand crosses in my chart with, Venus opposite Saturn, I am instinctively very self controlled in my reactions and being a Virgo, I never let my emotions over power me to the extent that I start reacting erratically irrespective or go in depression unless it's absolutely a question of life and death. I generally deal with things spiritually, and weigh the pros and cons. I don't blame anyone else, but don't blame myself either.

I read somewhere Capricorn has a very dark impact, if these people take something on heart. It's such a huge coincidence that you mention this. I hope there is some way to get an outlet.