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Venusincap89
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posted December 27, 2014 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are your thoughts on past life analysis based on astrology? Do you find it accurate? Or inaccurate? Any comments in general?
If you do find it accurate, where did you get such info from?

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posted December 27, 2014 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see how it could tell you things like you were royalty or a pirate or a sacred prostitute or some priestess of Atlantis because that would mean scores, hundreds, or even thousands (and more? worldometer) with the same placements were also the same...and if one could tell these things then it would beg the question why we couldn't know who would be President or a bank robber by their natal chart (not COULD be, but WOULD be, otherwise the "past life astrology" would also be COULD be at best).

That said, an understanding of past lives I've come to have (which includes what others say which can be pretty haunting, something telepathic is going on if not shared past life memories) that my chart makes perfect sense for me to have this life. 'Course I don't know if that means some intelligence (my own or another) beyond my comprehension "scheduled" me for that reason or if chance gave me this chart and as a result I was magnetically drawn to the missions I have in this life and determine which others lives get dealt with in this one.

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posted December 27, 2014 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Though if anyone can recall a life so well then doing a chart of that time of death in the previous life and comparing it to the natal chart in this one might be interesting.

You know, I think I might be able to do that! I know someone who recalls dying as a child in the 1906 San Francisco earthquake, and this wasn't recalled under hypnosis, this was something he's always remembered since as far back as he can recall and was scared of dying in another earthquake as a child though he didn't understand what earthquakes were exactly and didn't connect it to that earthquake until much older. I'll have to look into that when I have more time!

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Vajra
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posted December 27, 2014 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 27, 2014 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not very well practiced, if at all with past life astrology, but I think basically the natal chart can indicate clues via representation. The thousands of people with the same chart as you will have had lives that can be represented by the same aspects because lets not forget, there are many interpretations of an aspect, placement, sign and planet. There are many things you can read into in a natal chart, but the thing is its all about the energy and themes. If someone wants to know about theyre past lives, theyd basicaly just have to have a past life regression! But of course, astrology does have its clues and can help break it down, like it does for our current lives hope that made sense, just my rambling thoughts, I like thinking about this stuff too

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posted December 28, 2014 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know much about past life astrology but I've been intrigued ever since a friend of mine returned from an ashvram and told me her story of the glimpse of her past life.

I took it seriously because she went to ashvram not for spirituality but to restart herself and get away from her bad habits. She fixed her bad habits and became lovelier even than she was but she also came out with increased spirituality. Basically after one of her countless meditation sessions she thought to herself she wished she could of met the guru of that ashvram. That night in a dream she received an answer saying they did meet and got a glimpse of her past life.

Now, I've not yet reached that level of spiritual belief when she told me. But her word has always been trust worthy to me so I valued it highly and began studying karmic astrology (actually reading arroyo right now)

Her south node aspects (signs, house, aspects) matched the proposed past life. And her chart purpose and talents in this life matched the things the person in that past life had wished he could of done before an untimely death.

So, my little experienced, and unconfirmed theory is this -
If you came into this life with certain defections then these defects are things you came to correct and make up for so your past life might be guilty in matters related to this. And of course, check it your south node.


Like for me, I have south node in the 5th house Virgo. All my squares go to my mars. I believe, and it is only a belief, that my past life(if this concept is real) was rooted in some level of leadership(5th house) and possibly self entered (5th house) or perhaps justified my actions for the sake of service (Virgo) and logical deductions (Virgo) that I adopted a brutal method of dealing with those opposed to my goals (the ridiculous amount of stresses to my mars)

With my 11th house north node in Pisces, I believe it's my purpose in this life to develop past my mars deficiencies (with a Scorpio sun and Cappy moon and an afflicted mars I was prone to fighting when young and being quite brutal about it) into a position of leadership for humanitarian services and uphold that Pisces empathy, and kindness while at the same time being the warrior I've always felt I am.

And I find when I fail this self proposed karmic mission my emotions deteriorate fast and I become quite the different person. The strongest period I felt I was going the wrong direction was when I was in the delayed entry program for the navy as a navy seal candidate(I actually went in to become a rescue swimmer but they talked me into the seal program; I'm a stubborn guy but the seal hype was high and there was prestige and glory to chase) . My character deteriorated quickly as the date came. I was really tapping into that Cappy Moon ability to process things coldly and detached as to get ready to ship out. Luckily for me and my karmic growth path the lady I mentioned above noticed my personality going down the drain and tried her hardest to push me on a different path. The result was me leaving the navy DEP (you can imagine how ****** my recruiter was; not easy to find people fit enough to pass the physical screening)
and contacting the coast guard instead. They were recruiting and I went into the process and I almost instantly felt on the right path again toward that 11th house Pisces NN with my Neptune in the 9th

The interesting thing was my amiga who reset my course has her NN trining mine with her fortune conjunct my north node. Her NN is also in the 11th. If there was anyone with any aspect to make sure i kept on track for karma I believe it would be this person and aspect combination.

So long story short -

Your chart and life tell a story that might give clues to why you are here and what you're trying to escape from. Had I gone into an extreme combat role in this life I feel I would of become the exact person all my Mars squares warn me against. I wouldn't of established the ideas I have to fulfill my 11th NN. Granted I don't know what I'll be doing in the CG (and a pity that their special operation teams still attract me and I find it hard to resist that kind of role) but I feel like I at least KNOW what I need to do

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Vajra
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posted December 28, 2014 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 28, 2014 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Absolutely. I forgot to mention my Mars is in the 12th. It is supposed that the water houses and their planets, particularly the 12th, require the most effort to adjust and grow in karmic astrology

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posted December 28, 2014 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 28, 2014 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm happy you brought up the symbols. It's one of the most interesting topics for me. How do you feel about the Janduz symbols? Both symbol systems tend to hit a note with me.

My Mars Janduz -
"A lavishly dressed man rides a beautiful horse. His right hand brandishes a sabre, and his left hand holds the reins. Although his mount rears at snakes crossing its path, the rider easily keeps the horse under his control."

The Sabian -
A Comedian Reveals Human Nature

I agree with Astrothemes interpretation of the Janduz symbol - Brave, ostentatious, and generous character endowed with organisation skills and self-confidence in one's strength. One has a very independent lifestyle and is always prepared to stand up for one's opinion. Success can be achieved in all occupations involving horses, or in a career in medicine, surgery, diplomacy, or religion. However, instead of showing off and trying to brutally impose one's beliefs, one must pay more respect to other people's feelings and ideas, lest all sorts of setbacks crop up. Indeed, this degree also warns against possible fall from grace, violence, or treachery.

And Dane Rudhyar's Sabian interpretation feels right as well - KEYNOTE: The capacity to look objectively at oneself and at others.

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The combination tells me the potential to grow and reign in the faults of Mars.

Sun symbols are also telling -
Janduz
"At the top of a hillock, a bull paws the ground violently. In the field below, a horse gallops freely."
Tenacious, passionate, and agile character. Since one cannot bear any form of constraint, one is determined to struggle for freedom, one's own as well as that of other people. Youth is plagued by hardships, but the sufferings undergone in early life turn into a powerful spur to later become a brilliant champion of law and social reforms. One may also be an excellent acrobat.

Sabian -
Obeying His Conscience, A Soldier Resists Orders

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North Node -
Janduz -
"A young man in a nice suit stands between two cones and fiddles with his wristwatch. One of the cones is intact, and the other one has its top cut off." (Janduz version)
Indecisive, anxious, and ambitious character. If one is born in a wealthy family, after a reversal of fortune, one strives to recover one's social status. If one has modest origins, one is capable to rise to an important position and to achieve some degree of fame. In both cases, one must not aim at the top since this degree indicates limitations, and any attempt to reach the summit results in accidents or health conditions.

Sabian - It's pretty fitting for the 11th house Pisces
In The Sanctuary Of An Occult Brotherhood, Newly Initiated Members Are Being Examined And Their Character Tested

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One thing I like about the Sabian symbols is they are much clearer.

So how do you feel about combining the two systems in an attempt to draw out a clearer story?

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posted December 28, 2014 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 28, 2014 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have a clear theme too. It seems like you're gifted with (easily) above average intellect. Even from the way you write I would be inclined to agree.

The soldier theme alongside diplomacy and the 11th house NN theme is the most prevalent in all systems for me. Numerology, ZWDS, Tarot questions, I Ching, and Western. The lovely warning about the fall from the top due to being a difficult person is also system wide. I'd be a fool to fail with all the clear warnings :P Haven't explored Vedic or Draconic yet but someday I will. Already have all these other systems screaming at me. Not that I practice them all but I have close friends who prefer those systems.

Well, please let me know interesting things you learn if you look into Janduz more

I don't think I'll be lucky enough as you to have some sort of vision of a past life. I don't meditate, and I don't feel naturally inclined to it. But I can't say I really care to know. The clues are enough for me to go forward. Though, based on my friends experience, and the NN trine I share with her, I wouldn't be surprised if it was related to the IRA :P

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posted December 28, 2014 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 28, 2014 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your last post prompted me to read up on Neptune in the 1st. It sounds to me like it is one of those positions that is difficult but has a big potential for reward if developed. A lot more difficult than my Jupiter in the 1st which really only has the tendency for weight gain as far as I can tell. But I do well managing that now. I think I'll keep a future eye on Neptune in the 1st descriptions because it sounds very interesting.

It's funny you mention phobias. The closest thing I have to fear is things related to lack of control of forces greater than me. So jobs like being an astronaut and a diver have always stirred a special kind of trouble in me. It's gonna take a long time for me to get used to being on the open sea and at mercy of the ocean.

I would be fascinated if you expanded on that "locate" bit.

As far as ocean existential situations go, I have mine coming I am sure. My Saturn return will be during my CG enlistment. It will be in the 8th house conjunct Moon and Saturn in Capricorn, with Uranus in Sagittarius. Neptune is also conjunct this stellium in Capricorn but it falls into my 9th house. (which is why I think my travel will be dominated by sea) and all of these are square Aries Mars in the 12th. So, it'll be interesting to say the least.

Never heard that proverb, I like it.

And thank you, this conversation has certainly been one of the most interesting ones I've had on this forum

Edit:
Reading the Karma Yoga, I needed something while I take public transport to run errands. Very excited.

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posted December 28, 2014 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Kannon McAfee
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posted December 29, 2014 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
What are your thoughts on past life analysis based on astrology? Do you find it accurate? Or inaccurate? Any comments in general?
If you do find it accurate, where did you get such info from?

There is no specific past life information in your birth chart for this lifetime. There are only references and suggestions that are vague references as to where you are coming from/drawing from.

Astrology is a silly way to get past life info. Just do hypnosis. The most relevant information from your past lives is right there under the surface just waiting to come out. You can do this yourself or with the help of someone else.

I got good, clear information about my past association with my wife in the first few months after meeting using the stone Rhyolite placed upon my forehead. I wrote out questions first, placed the stone on my forehead, took some deep slow breaths and went into a meditative state. Didn't take long at all. And the story showed itself quite clearly to me.

Past lives are useless as fishing expeditions and when people have engaged in such things we've seen ego-boosting nonsense that serves no purpose. How many people have thought they were the same famous person previously? Cleopatra, etc...

If you are really interested in soul growth and information that will empower you today to live a more joyful life, then such information with readily present itself to you with an honest effort. If, however, you'd really like to find out if you were some famous person, don't waste your time.

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