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charlie
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posted January 02, 2015 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In your expert opinion, is it at all possible for someone that is truly "uranian" in nature to settle down by trying to force a drastic change in persona?

Aside from all the aspects from Uranus in my chart + stellium in 11H, I also have Uranus conj NN in 3H sq Saturn.

I feel as if I have come to a halt where I need to choose between Uranus and Saturn but it's mindbogglingly (is this a word??) hard! I can't find a middle ground and their energies combined make me insane

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goatcat
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posted January 02, 2015 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Change in persona? For what?

Are you saying is it possible for a Uranian to truly want to settle down if it comes with a personality change?

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charlie
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posted January 02, 2015 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by goatcat:
Change in persona? For what?

Are you saying is it possible for a Uranian to truly want to settle down if it comes with a personality change?


Yes.

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goatcat
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posted January 02, 2015 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ummm...I think so? It all depends on you and what you're into.
I'm pretty Uranian and I'm pretty wild but because I really like my relationship, I know there are things I shouldn't do if I want to keep it! It's HARD sometimes I find myself getting THIS close to getting in trouble but my values stop me!

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charlie
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posted January 02, 2015 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by goatcat:
Ummm...I think so? It all depends on you and what you're into.
I'm pretty Uranian and I'm pretty wild but because I really like my relationship, I know there are things I shouldn't do if I want to keep it! It's HARD sometimes I find myself getting THIS close to getting in trouble but my values stop me!

I don't really get in trouble in relationships (have cheated and then left person right after) but it's in life in general. I can wake up one day and just leave work/country/people etc etc. I am getting close to 40 soon and was thinking I should stabilize myself.

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theunknown
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posted January 02, 2015 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranian is an unexpected energy.... That said you are pretty Cancer influenced if I remember correctly ... Maybe you need an odd arrangement in your relationship

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charlie
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posted January 02, 2015 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
Uranian is an unexpected energy.... That said you are pretty Cancer influenced if I remember correctly ... Maybe you need an odd arrangement in your relationship

It's odd already, trust me Very unconventional!

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I'm so cappy
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posted January 02, 2015 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think something like that can be forced and result in long term success. If you care about this relationship a lot maybe it's time to see a therapist.

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charlie
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posted January 02, 2015 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I don't think something like that can be forced and result in long term success. If you care about this relationship a lot maybe it's time to see a therapist.


I care and I would see a therapist if I could get a clear picture of whether I need one or not. Maybe too much personal change is not good??

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I'm so cappy
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posted January 02, 2015 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Maybe too much personal change is not good??

It depends. If someone is a piece of $hit that happened to understand how $hitty they are and don't want to be that way anymore and they want to become a new, better person for the sake of someone else then I can see it as a good thing. Everyone around would benefit from it.

How long have you genuinely been trying to become more stable? If it's been years then I think it wouldn't hurt to meet someone at least once. The stakes are high. Imagine you wake up tomorrow and don't want to be with him anymore. How do you feel about it?

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posted January 02, 2015 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
In your expert opinion, is it at all possible for someone that is truly "uranian" in nature to settle down by trying to force a drastic change in persona?

It is possible to settle, but only if it is what you really want.

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florence
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posted January 02, 2015 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do remember experiencing this collision between different energies to quite an upsetting degree. I wasn't even in a relationship at the time but the fact I wanted to look for one and didn't want to get embroiled in one either...

At least I could experience it without a grass is greener thing - probably I was jealous of others relationships but I'd had such an awful relationship with no autonomy I swung too far the other way.

I can't imagine experiencing that full on in a relationship where there's something tangible to label as the cause and remove when possibly you'd feel divided if single too

Do you have anything you can let your uraniun out on? Like something that demands the best of that energy. I think if you can apply creative or inventive somewhere in your life, where it consumes that part of you it can get rid of a lot of surplus need for freedom.

Has anything prompted it to increase other than the rship itself I.e boredom at work?

As mentioned in other threads on Uranus, it helped me when I realised abandonment tied into it. Sometimes I was trying to reassure others I was committed but once I didn't worry and learnt how to give myself freedom, I gave it to others better too, they gave it to me in return etc

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Healing Mystic Melody
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posted January 02, 2015 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Healing Mystic Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you reach your forties, a series of transiting aspects occur (like Uranus opposes your natal Uranus placement) and these transits (that happen to everyone) are what the "midlife crisis" is all about. People who followed society's rules realize they haven't been following their dreams and honoring their truths so they leave long term marriages and jobs etc. People who were weird in the first place (due to highly Uranian charts), who have already lived a wild and impulsive life according to their own standards, may go a more stable route depending on what they've learned along the way. Or a more balanced route... Neptune and Saturn also come to a conclusion on what dreams are real and what is fantasy etc... do a Google Search of mid-life crisis astrological transits.

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posted January 02, 2015 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Healing Mystic Melody:
When you reach your forties, a series of transiting aspects occur (like Uranus opposes your natal Uranus placement) and these transits (that happen to everyone) are what the "midlife crisis" is all about. People who followed society's rules realize they haven't been following their dreams and honoring their truths so they leave long term marriages and jobs etc. People who were weird in the first place (due to highly Uranian charts), who have already lived a wild and impulsive life according to their own standards, may go a more stable route depending on what they've learned along the way. Or a more balanced route... Neptune and Saturn also come to a conclusion on what dreams are real and what is fantasy etc... do a Google Search of mid-life crisis astrological transits.

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mirage29
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posted January 02, 2015 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Charlie! Sometimes love works out in ways that are pleasant, mutual, and surprisingly unexpected!

(music) Ballad of the absent mare (Leonard Cohen) [6:15] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbFOiIKVmRA

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posted January 03, 2015 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trying to force it, or coming to a point where certain things don't matter as much?
Uranians can be tamed.
It's all on them, or in this case you, for doing what works for them. Maybe the old ways aren't as satisfying for some reason. Saturn n Uranus can be blended.

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bansheequeen
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posted January 03, 2015 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope so. My boyfriend is very Uranian and Ihave important Uranian stuff going on too. But I think people that are very Uranian due to Uranus the planet will have a harder time than people who are Uranian due to Aqua placements, since Aqua is ruled by Saturn as well.

I am Iranian by Aqua placemnts. So is my boyfriend. I have sun and Mercury. He has Mars and Venus. When we are together, nobody understands us. We have a lot of inside jokes and ways of communication that only we understand. And we kinda communicate through thin air and random looks lol. Our relationship has been pretty crazy and we've been through a lot of weird stuff together but I think be she of our Aqua placements, we take it in stride instead of breaking up when we are forced to make huge dramatic life changes. We are both fine with changing to fit the others life.

So I guess, if you find someone that in them you can find stability in their instability, I think you'll be fine. But I dunno, if you're a truly uranian person, not just someone with Aqua placements, and you don't have a good dose of Saturn. I don't know. You might just be a puppet of where the wind takes you,

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charlie
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posted January 03, 2015 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
I hope so. My boyfriend is very Uranian and Ihave important Uranian stuff going on too. But I think people that are very Uranian due to Uranus the planet will have a harder time than people who are Uranian due to Aqua placements, since Aqua is ruled by Saturn as well.

I am Iranian by Aqua placemnts. So is my boyfriend. I have sun and Mercury. He has Mars and Venus. When we are together, nobody understands us. We have a lot of inside jokes and ways of communication that only we understand. And we kinda communicate through thin air and random looks lol. Our relationship has been pretty crazy and we've been through a lot of weird stuff together but I think be she of our Aqua placements, we take it in stride instead of breaking up when we are forced to make huge dramatic life changes. We are both fine with changing to fit the others life.

So I guess, if you find someone that in them you can find stability in their instability, I think you'll be fine. But I dunno, if you're a truly uranian person, not just someone with Aqua placements, and you don't have a good dose of Saturn. I don't know. You might just be a puppet of where the wind takes you,


I am Uranian by aspects and my 11H stellium. Only have Vertex in Aquarius.

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