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lisalisa
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posted January 07, 2015 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My rising is scorpio and pluto is conjunct my rising, so my chart ruler conjuncts my rising, will this only make me more scorpio or what kind of influences does this have?

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Aries23Degrees
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posted January 07, 2015 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ruler of the 1st not only in the 1st house, but conjunct the 1st house cusp??? Wow!!

I think you may strongly identify with the Scorpio Asc and much of what is written about will apply to you. Well at-least how you approach things, how others respond to you and your external appearance.

But I would also like to say that the Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus/Mars positions will have their say too. So don't be overly focused on just that one side of you.

So unless all are also in Scorpio, I wouldn't ignore them.

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lisalisa
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posted January 07, 2015 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Ruler of the 1st not only in the 1st house, but conjunct the 1st house cusp??? Wow!!

I think you may strongly identify with the Scorpio Asc and much of what is written about will apply to you. Well at-least how you approach things, how others respond to you and your external appearance.

But I would also like to say that the Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus/Mars positions will have their say too. So don't be overly focused on just that one side of you.

So unless all are also in Scorpio, I wouldn't ignore them.


Yes yes, i have also venus in scorpio in the 1st, my sun is in libra in the 11th.. I don't really relate to libra at all.. I'm not happy go lucky type or very outgoing, when i read about libra i can't relate at al.. My moon is in gemini in the 8th.. I do relate a little to gemini moon also scorpio moon hence the 8th house placement..

Another odd thing is.. I ONLY attract scorpio friends.. All my friends have scorpio sun, so what is that all about lol

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frankie2912
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posted January 07, 2015 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lisalisa,

i have the same thing going on. scorp asc with pluto in scorpio conj the asc.

i would say that yes, this does make you "more scorpio"..scorpio themes, interests, and energy colors your world. i'm guessing you are a person who has gone through a lot of big changes.

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lisalisa
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posted January 07, 2015 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by frankie2912:
lisalisa,

i have the same thing going on. scorp asc with pluto in scorpio conj the asc.

i would say that yes, this does make you "more scorpio"..scorpio themes, interests, and energy colors your world. i'm guessing you are a person who has gone through a lot of big changes.


So tell me more about if you feel you're more intuitive than others.. or psychic..
I always know when people lie, i look through ppl, can figure them out very easily

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Aries23Degrees
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posted January 08, 2015 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lisalisa:
Yes yes, i have also Venus in Scorpio in the 1st, my Sun is in Libra in the 11th.. I don't really relate to Libra at all.. I'm not happy go lucky type or very outgoing, when i read about Libra i can't relate at all. My moon is in Gemini in the 8th.. I do relate a little to Gemini moon also Scorpio moon hence the 8th house placement..

Another odd thing is.. I ONLY attract Scorpio friends.. All my friends have Scorpio sun, so what is that all about lol


Thing is,when reading a chart, I like to consider the whole sign system for general perspective and then go to the degree placements-for the specifics.

The combination of the two sometimes make a difference in interpretation.Especially if more than half of the sign is located in the previous/following house.

In the whole sign system, your Sun in Libra is in the 12th house . Therefore making it "hidden" from your view. Which is why you may have an over-identification with Venus/Pluto in the 1st house.

But nevertheless, the combination of the Sun in 12th and 11th placement suggests a person who is very appreciative of the friends they have.

Your friends could love your "personal touch" as you seem to be a person who is exclusive and very much engaged in them(Sun in Libra in 12th/11th).

Add to that that your Sun is ruled by Venus- Pluto's opposite sign.This could also be very attracting to Scorpio's. They may like the eloquent way you articulate things as well as your balanced outlook-which they perceive as calming and soothing.

Scorpio tends to be a sign that is extreme by nature. But it also tends to loathe this same extreme temperament in others; preferring a more calm (Taurus),reasonable (Capricorn)and even sometimes mild(Pisces) person to associate with.

This is why their attraction to Taurus(their opposite)as well as Pisces(Neptune is the "higher" octave of Venus)can be so strong.

This could also explain their attraction to you(as you are also Venus ruled).

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Barbiegirl19
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posted January 08, 2015 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have to remember though that Scorpio isn't only ruled by Pluto, it is also ruled by Mars. So you'd be more Pluto, have stronger Pluto influence, not necessarily Scorpio.

Your chart ruler would be both Mars and Pluto, not just Pluto.

I saw that you commented that your Venus in Scorpio is also in the 1st and that you don't relate very much with your Libra sun. Do you relate with Aquarius/Uranus at all?

I am also a 1st house Venus in Scorpio, it's very strong at 1 degrees, as well as Venus being my chart ruler, I'm Libra rising. My sun is also in Libra in my 12th as well as my Moon and Mercury. My Jupiter is in my 12th but is in Virgo. I relate very much with both Pisces and Scorpio and am neither.

The house position of a planet will affect both that planet and sign. They all work together. Add in aspects and it's even more affected. The aspect itself also matters.

Pluto is also generational.

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