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Ami Anne
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posted January 10, 2015 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How does this feel? I am trying to get behind the eyes of it, so if you have it or have experience with someone who does, I would appreciate your help!

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posted January 10, 2015 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 19, 2015 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not a negative aspect in my experience.

I have Rx Saturn in Pisces in 9th conjunct MC. If anything I feel like this aspect makes it easy for me to be chosen for leadership positions. I often get noticed/rewarded and complimented for my work and as of late, asked to apply for promotions.

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posted January 20, 2015 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn in Capricorn, conjunct the MC, only 0.5 degree orb.

I can see that it is a good aspect for work, interviews are not a problem, I often got the job offered on the spot and also if there were promotions I was in. I do a good job, cannot stand sloppiness, and have never been without a job in my life.
If I am not in a management position, I often played myself down a bit as I felt that I would be more qualified than my manager and I did not want to create trouble.
I often became friendly with managers.

On a personal level, I don't like group events, or organizing them, very individual, I don't like parties , gatherings, chit chat, or doing nothing, in my time off I make myself productive.

My jobs also involved wearing uniforms, healthcare, although I am at a level now that that is not necessary anymore.

I love history, anything old and antique takes my fancy.
I do up old houses in my free time , furniture, I absolutely don't like modern furniture, bright colours, plastics etc, it needs to be solid and lasting.

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posted January 20, 2015 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is my real question, my Friends. Do you feel this kind of unrelenting feeling that you have to be perfect and no matter what you do, it is not enough?

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posted January 20, 2015 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn in Pisces right on my MC. I feel like I have to work really really hard to get anywhere. I take work stuff really seriously as well. But in Pisces, I'm beginning to get fed up of this kind of heavy energy around work related stuff. I want to do what I want to do and not conform and study something boring that may or may not get me anywhere! I'm just basically sick of Saturn whispering in my ear that I'll have to do more, get a normal job, think about all this stuff yknow :/ Im just whining really, but this is what I attribute it to- hope this helps a bit Ami

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posted January 20, 2015 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheresthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This is my real question, my Friends. Do you feel this kind of unrelenting feeling that you have to be perfect and no matter what you do, it is not enough?


I have a friend with Saturn in the Tenth who was EXACTLY this way. She had severe Obsessive Compulsive Disorder to where she couldn't even leave the house in the morning. She got straight A's, but if she got a 95 instead of a 100 grade, her whole world would crumble. She was very insecure about her looks (she has always been overweight) and because of that she felt she had to overcompensate by being perfect in every other way. It turned out well for her because she got a lot of scholarships and a good job right out of college, but when she was a teenager it was hell on her.

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posted January 20, 2015 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This is my real question, my Friends. Do you feel this kind of unrelenting feeling that you have to be perfect and no matter what you do, it is not enough?


Totally, always want to be perfect, and hard for me to take criticism.

On a personal level, I suffered from debilitating shyness when young, (LOL, till deep in my 40ties, ) that is leaving me now.
But I will never be that light on a party.

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posted January 20, 2015 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes that hasbeenmyexperience inthe inrelenting perfectionseeking.

p s i am on a tablet

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posted January 20, 2015 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This is my real question, my Friends. Do you feel this kind of unrelenting feeling that you have to be perfect and no matter what you do, it is not enough?


Not exactly. Will Smith has this too and I has this probably close to exact ... though my birth time is not entirely accurate.
I am aware very early on that I have to work very hard and when rewards are given without the amount of work that I feel makes me deserving of the rewards, then I don't feel comfortable receiving praises or attention.

I am heavy saturnian and the thing about saturn influence is practicality. So good quality is important but time only allows for "good-enough," so I don't demand myself to be perfect. I am pretty good at cutting things off at certain point. But even that point would probably be considered somewhat perfectionistic for some people I guess ...

I am also aware when i was younger that If I screw up, things are gonna turn out pretty badly. I am aware of my reputation and as I grow older, prefer to be in position of power but not necessarily where the spot light is on.

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posted January 21, 2015 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another thing with this position is time.

I am very time conscious, if you wake me up in the middle of the night, I would be able to tell you the exact time, maybe 5 minutes off, just an internal clock that I have.

I like people to be on time for appointments, if I am late myself , I get stressed, am always early, sometimes an hour earlier than necessary, I have a clock in every house, like them

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posted January 21, 2015 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn conjunct Leo mc in 9th

Things that agree with my exp:

Painfully shy especially younger
Perfectionist but mostly as the unknown said it's thinking I have to put the work in, doesn't feel right if I don't
On some level I'm not, I have to combat this need or it affects creativity but I've an inner sense of having to reach a target nonetheless
At uni it wasn't good enough to just fulfill criteria, I felt I had to contribute something new to justify what I was doing.
Likewise in work am very conscious of earning my wage. Not the type to sit around at work even if no work - although my Saturn return put that tendency through the mangle.
Got every interview, tend to get promoted or asked to stay beyond a contract. Really good at writing cv's and job applications - write a lot for friends.
Kind of an inner clock about time but I'm not punctual - I think my nature is to be, I like to put effort into that sometimes but generally late.
Am attracted to men in uniforms and authority but don't think I project that image - although even in casual dress work environments I did always wear smart, business like clothes. Was convinced that was the reason I was considered reliable

How it feels - unknowns experience is prevailing one for me. Wanting to do the very best that can be done - it's such an internal battle especially when that conflicts with need to be free or speedy with the work.
It made me laugh watching my mum with my daughter whilst she was drawing because it gave me such an insight into my early experiences. Like she was urging her to do it very neatly, nothing was appreciated for its creative placement or use of colour - it was all about colouring inside the lines and everything being proportionate (sigh, libra mum ). I love that I've had that pressure to go beyond but it's tiring to fight it when that need for perfection is the obstacle itself to perfection

Another funny insight into early experience was watching my mum when daughter was learning to crawl. Pisces grandma moves toy closer to her reach. My mum moves toy farther from reach.

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posted January 21, 2015 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much, dear Friends. Someone close to me has this and I am trying to understand.

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posted January 21, 2015 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
How does this feel? I am trying to get behind the eyes of it, so if you have it or have experience with someone who does, I would appreciate your help!


I love this thread and even though I have a trine,I can still feel it,haha! I do feel like I have to work harder than others,but I noticed that I do always get the job and things that I want!

What would you say about a trine Ami? I'm kinda still young to the job field! I'm actually still in college.Haha

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posted January 21, 2015 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love Saturn trines.

I have Moon trine saturn at 7 degrees, which is wide, but Saturn in trine gives a glorious stability.

With Saturn trine the MC, you would be able to direct hard work and discipline to real world goals.

It is very lovely, G!

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posted January 21, 2015 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I am also aware when i was younger that If I screw up, things are gonna turn out pretty badly. I am aware of my reputation and as I grow older, prefer to be in position of power but not necessarily where the spot light is on.[/B][/QUOTE]

Now this was spot on! Ive always felt this way,even though I have a trine in my chart. Saturn in Pisces/5th house trine Mc in cancer.

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