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Ami Anne
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posted January 18, 2015 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Quincunx and it’s Aspects to The Ascendent


In my last article on Aspects to the Ascendent, I forgot the quincunx. That is surprising because it is one of my favorite aspects. The quincunx is 150 degrees. Simply put, it is an opposition plus one sign. For example Aries is opposed to Libra but quincunx to Virgo and Scorpio. The quincunx is strange because it is not an easy aspects such as the trine or sextile. The easy aspects show our gifts. It is not a hard aspect like the square or opposition. The hard aspects show our struggles. It is a hybrid.

The quincunx is akin to the horse and the donkey birthing the mule. The mule is his own creature. The quincunx is it’s own entity, as well. The main phrase to remember with quincunx is the “struggle to “blend”.

The ASC is one’s face to the world. A planet that is quincunx to the ASC will PROPEL the native to incorporate that planet into his daily life. If one got a great new pair of sunglasses but the sunglasses did not look good with one’s hair style. One could change one’s hair style and look fab in the sunglasses. That is the nature of the quincunx. One must blend, blend, blend until one gets a fabulous new whole. Let me give some examples.

The Sun is one’s ego. The ASC is one’s outer face to the world. With the quincunx, these two parts do not go together but they can be blended. Once, that is done, the person has a rare and unique personal expression.If the Sun is quincunx the ASC, the native may not know quite what to do with his ego. He may hold back. He may be too bold. He may try out different forms of himself before he finds the one that fits. Lets say that a man has an Aries ASC and a Scorpio Sun. The Aries ASC is bold. It is a go getter. It will not take no for an answer.It will fight if you step on his toe. It will fight if you step on the toe of his friend.


The Scorpio Sun is quite different. It is smoldering. It pulls back and watches before he acts. It scopes out the scene like Al Pacino in the Godfather, complete with oh so sexy shades. Also, with the quincunx, one leg is masculine and one leg is feminine. In this case, the Aries ASC is masculine and the Scorpio Sun is feminine. The workings of masculine and feminine planets are quite different, too. This can be compared to the Yin and the Yang in Oriental philosophy.All in all, we have one fruit on one end and another on the other end.

Staying with our example of the Aries ASC and the Scorpio Sun, the native will have a strange kind of pull between being direct and “in your face” and holding back and keeping his cards close to his vest. He will have to blend Al Pacino with Roseanne Barr. Do you like that analogy? I think it shows that there is quite a battle within the quincunx native but it can be done. Al Pacino and Roseanne Barr combined would be kind of cute

The Moon is one’s heart. With the Moon quincunx the ASC, one would struggle to show one’s heart to the world. Again, we have quincunx signs, which battle each other. I will give an example. Our native will have a Cancer Moon. Her ASC will be Saggi. Saggi loves adventure. Saggi will open her mouth and insert her foot. She is the friendliest ASC and she is the one most prone to follow her adventure compass without thought to the consequences. The Cancer Moon, on the other hand, is a deep feeler and a homebody. She loves to cook. She likes to build a nest in her home for her close circle of family and friends. She is a protective mother hen against the big bad world. She is known to chase off the outsiders, beak pecking. The Cancer Moon can be cliquish with those she loves. She is not one to travel the world and make friends with diverse people around the globe. Her perfect night is a cup of tea and a wonderful snuggle on the sofa. Hence, you can see how the quincunx propels the native to combine disparate parts.


Lets look at Mercury quincunx the ASC. Our native will have a Gemini Mercury and a Scorpio ASC. The Scorpio ASC is not effusive. He is not particularly friendly. He warms up slowly, after assessing the surroundings. He does not trust easily. The Gemini Mercury is very social and very chatty. The Gemini Mercury will be your best friend within five minutes. Hence, you can see how this native will have to move to the middle with these very different signs. Mercury quincunx the ASC, as an aspect, irrespective of sign, would be a struggle to communicate. The signs just exacerbate this. I hope this is clear.

Let’s Look at Venus quincunx the ASC. This native will struggle to show love. She may hold back. She may bound forward too much. She has to learn the balance. With signs, we have quincunx signs, of course. I will give an example. If the native has a Gemini Venus and a Capricorn ASC, she will be a natural flirt with a serious exterior. These two parts do not really go together. Hence, we see the struggle of the quincunx, once again.

Let’s look at Mars. Mars is the planet of goals and passions. If one has a strong Mars, one will go after what one wants in a direct way. If one has a weak Mars, one will hem and haw and maybe veer off the side of the road for an excursion. Mats quincunx the ASC is a person who cannot go after her goals in an easy way. She struggles to bring them to manifestation. She struggles to make them a reality. With signs, again, we have quincunx signs. Hence, if the native has a Pisces Mars and a Leo ASC, one would struggle between a dreamy Mars who gets lost in fantasy and an ASC who wants to take center stage. We may have a person who looks good on your arm but cannot set a goal worth a darn.(This is exaggerated for purposes of discussion )

This article is getting so long and I wonder if it is clear. I am kind of feeling as if I am walking through mud, so I will leave it and put it out there and wait for your opinions. If you want me to go on with the other planets, I will.

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posted January 19, 2015 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heey Ami,what would you say about Asc Quincunx if it's aspects saturn? My Saturn is in pisces (0 degrees/5th house) and I have a 01 degree Libra rising.

And Btw, This article was insightful!

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posted January 19, 2015 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:


...Mats quincunx the ASC is a person who cannot go after her goals in an easy way. She struggles to bring them to manifestation. She struggles to make them a reality. With signs, again, we have quincunx signs. Hence, if the native has a Pisces Mars and a Leo ASC, one would struggle between a dreamy Mars who gets lost in fantasy and an ASC who wants to take center stage. We may have a person who looks good on your arm but cannot set a goal worth a darn.(This is exaggerated for purposes of discussion )

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While I say I have Mars unaspected, it does technically have one aspect. This one.

Mars Tau 27°24' to Asc 0°03' Sco

Inconjunct even though they are both fixed and femine.

Struggle to make goals a reality nails it for me. It's not that Mars is so out of sync... Tau/Sco work fine together. It's like there's so much line loss on the connection, like there's a short circuit between the power and the outlet, if that makes sense.

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posted January 19, 2015 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini

This aspect does not count TOWARD an Unaspected mars but it is still important to you, but your Mars is still Unaspected.

My venus is the same, aspected to the ASC but still Unapsected.

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posted January 19, 2015 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini Blues

Your post makes perfect sense. You CAN make it work and not feel disconnected but it takes effort and time.

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posted January 19, 2015 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
Heey Ami,what would you say about Asc Quincunx if it's aspects saturn? My Saturn is in pisces (0 degrees/5th house) and I have a 01 degree Libra rising.

And Btw, This article was insightful!


Thank you, G!

You would struggle for discipline in your life. You would struggle to learn lessons from every day events. If people want a part 2, I will do it.

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posted January 19, 2015 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about mars in cap squaring scorpio ascendant?

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posted January 19, 2015 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you, G!

You would struggle for discipline in your life. You would struggle to learn lessons from every day events. If people want a part 2, I will do it.




yesss,please do! I would love that.


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posted January 20, 2015 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can never have enough on the quincunx! My chart is absolutely full of them.

Whats your word on Jupiter(PIS)/ASC or Neptune(CAP)/ASC?


Thanks for the article Amy!

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posted January 20, 2015 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Gemini Youngster!


I will do an article with the rest of the planets, Lionfish and will include Jupiter for you and hopefully, your others!

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posted January 20, 2015 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you Gemini Youngster!


I will do an article with the rest of the planets, Lionfish and will include Jupiter for you and hopefully, your others!


You're a doll Ami!

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posted January 20, 2015 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, LF. You are, too!

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posted January 25, 2015 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steph22922     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about Pluto in Scorpio Quincunx Virgo Ascendant?

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posted January 25, 2015 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Steph22922:
What about Pluto in Scorpio Quincunx Virgo Ascendant?

I need to do the next article,Steph. This would be a struggle to have your personal power come forth in your life imo

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posted January 26, 2015 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steph22922     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I need to do the next article,Steph. This would be a struggle to have your personal power come forth in your life imo


Thanks for the reply. That does make alot of sense to me actually as I've definitely had struggles asserting my own power for most of my life but I've recently been almost forced to work on this due to many outside circumstances in my life. Looking forward to your next article!

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posted January 26, 2015 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami!

I have a Asc quincunx but it's not a planet. It's my vertex and the orb is exact. Would you say my projection to the world is easily affected by transits that hits the Vx?

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posted August 12, 2018 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kintukewun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, thank you for all the info

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posted August 13, 2018 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have only Jupiter(Scorpio) Inconjunct Asc(Taurus). 2° Orb.


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posted August 13, 2018 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find quincunxes fascinating too, thanks Ami!

How wide an orb would you go? My Saturn is widely inconjunct my ascendant - by 4deg.

Would definitely say the description you gave earlier is very apt. I am terrible with discipline despite having a very fixed chart in general.

Admittedly I have venus square saturn and venus trine ascendant in the opposite direction so this won't be particularly conducive to discipline I suspect (venus-saturn) - still an interesting connection!

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Ugh. This rings bells. My Asc (Leo) is Quincunx my Sun (Capricorn).

Mercury and Venus are both Capricorn too - although not in aspect - and my Mars is in Sag.

The tension between Earth and Fire sometimes makes me feel like a walking volcano!

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posted August 19, 2018 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome Cap

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I have changed my mind on the quincunx from experiencing one in someone very close to me. I didn't use to see it as a hard aspect. I thought people could reconcile it but I have changed my mind. I think it is like a square in that the people are stuck on either side of the quincunx. This would apply to the natal, too, imo

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