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NeptunianSag
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posted January 19, 2015 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This placement sucks, I feel empty a lot of the time or just downright alone. How am I supposed to find where I'm truly happy, able to open up to people, so lost :s

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mollywu
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posted January 19, 2015 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollywu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have this on my natal, but I have Saturn transitting my 4th house. It does cause trouble in family life. Parents, esp. mom has very poor health( my mom has Cancer Sun, my dad has Capricorn Sun). My mom is very stubborn, it has caused lots of trouble to my dad and me. I have undertaken lots of pressure and responsibilities because of my families. So from time to time, I became very emotional, plus my sucked love life(transitting Neptune is opposite my Sun/Venus in 7th house), I have had depression. But luckily, my natal Saturn is in 1st house and sexile my Moon, I have Sun/Venus in 1st house conjunct my ASC, so I get recovered later on.

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Iced8Ace
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posted January 19, 2015 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iced8Ace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm having the transit. You have to focus on family. Whichever signs its in will show you the qualities you have to further develop. I had a very hard time with N. Pluto and Tr. Saturn on my Scorpio IC. I literally had to take control of my family; they were having several difficulties.

Your home will only hold up if you make sure to hammer back in the loose nails. Don't avoid your family. There's a reason why you feel shut out, use your detachment to analyse and find the answers for their behaviour without yielding your right of presence. Always use logic.

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fairaqua
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posted January 20, 2015 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn in the 4th and in my younger years it bothered me. Now that I'm moving towards my late 20s I kind of enjoy it.
Yes, there are days where I feel alone and sad but they are few and far between.

My childhood was kind of rough. Not as rough as some, but rough none the less. In my teen years I moved ambit 8 times in a total of 2-3 years. Bouncing from my mom to my dad to my mom to my grandma's to this person then that, back to my dad's and finally selling with the SO and we moved one more time in the house I'm finally in for the last 8 years. Home.
It was an emotionally draining ride but looking back there were a ton of lessons in there and it's made me appreciate my life, family, and my home.

Even after moving here the first few years were one of unrest as I adjusted and adapted.

You are going to have to find happiness within yourself. You are going to have to learn to be happy alone.
I've learned how to please myself (look to your Venus).

Maybe do some research on your family tree (familysearch.org)
I found it very rewarding.


I don't know where your Venus is, mine is in the 6th house, so I take a lot of joy in raising animals (dogs, cats, chickens, goats), gardening, all natural soap making, jewelry making.
All these things can be done within my home.

You should meditate.
Try reaching your higher self
or guide.


Im not going to lie to you that there are days that aren't tough, but that goes with ANY life.


Im also a life path 6 so my life is based around my home environment.

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charlie
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posted January 21, 2015 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have tSaturn in my 4H now. Things have been VERY hard domestic wise. I have a lot of growing up to do when it comes to spending 24/7 with a new man and his daughter and it ain't fun, especially for someone that has spent 38 years free with the wind...have a Life Path 5 (fits me to a T) and Venus in 11H so friends and life at large have always been a priority.

I tend to isolate myself so that they feel iced out which in return makes them think I don't want to spend time with them when in fact I just need time to find balance but Saturn just keeps pounding away at me and I know no one will fix my internal issues but me. Sadly, I have quite of an ego (very proud) and it's not helping me along..

There haven't been any problems with my mom or parents beyond the usual but Saturn only just entered my 4th so it might change.

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Gemini Blues
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posted January 21, 2015 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
fairaqua, a lot of what you said resonates. Lots of moving, lots of time alone (only child, dad was a truck driver, mom worked 3rd shift). Not bad relationships with either, just circumstances.

Even wound up being the family genealogist lol!

Wish I could say it all works out, because it does work out for long stretches. But there's always times (transits) that can set you back for a refresher course.

Saturn in Pisces 4th, sR, trine Asc and Venus, Square Mercury and opposition Uranus and Pluto (whew!)

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Barbiegirl19
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posted January 21, 2015 11:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You'll find it. You just have to be patient with yourself. Don't ever give up.

I have Saturn in my 4th and boy did I have a tough time. My childhood was full of trauma that led to many difficulties throughout my teenage years. I never opened up, still don't really, and it made things more difficult. It's tough to look at that as being unheathly when it's something you've done your whole, but it really is. Keeping everything bottled up isn't good, some is better than all. Don't pressure yourself though. Open up when you are ready, you'll feel so much better. Take your time.

Saturn is all over my chart, it's trine my Sun, Moon, Asc and exactly trine Mercury. Square Pluto and opposite my Chiron. I also have 3 minor aspects but I don't see them as being potent. Oh and I can't forget that it is retrograde.

It's not easy but you'll grow to appreciate it once you've matured and found yourself. Accepted things for what they are. That time will come, just keep hanging on. Once you're there you'll never look back, you'll look forward. Good luck!

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Ami Anne
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posted January 21, 2015 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
This placement sucks, I feel empty a lot of the time or just downright alone. How am I supposed to find where I'm truly happy, able to open up to people, so lost :s

I don't think this is the hardest Saturn placement imo, not to take away your feelings because I am not

I think Saturn in the 5th and 12th are harder, and perhaps the 6th.

To me, Saturn in the 5th makes creativity hard and the general sense of having fun and letting go hard. This would be awful for me because creativity and fun is what have helped me to survive childhood abuse.

That is my opinion, anyway xx

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posted November 13, 2015 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poupoupidou     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
This placement sucks, I feel empty a lot of the time or just downright alone. How am I supposed to find where I'm truly happy, able to open up to people, so lost :s

If you can't connect successfully with your parents or grand-parents and family, you need to seek happiness with friends or spouse. Or, Saturn in the 4th may require you to find ways to come at peace with them.

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