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Randall
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posted January 21, 2015 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scientists may have found Planet X -- the long-rumored object believed to be larger than Earth and further from the sun than Pluto.

Planet X and another object dubbed "Planet Y," are among 13 "extreme trans-Neptunian objects" (ETNOs) orbiting the sun at great distances, according to a report in Space, which quoted a new research paper.

They are believed to follow elliptical paths averaging about 200 astronomical units (AU) from the sun. Earth is 1 AU, or 93 million miles, from the sun.

"This excess of objects with unexpected orbital parameters makes us believe that some invisible forces are altering the distribution of the orbital elements of the ETNOs, and we consider that the most probable explanation is that other unknown planets exist beyond Neptune and Pluto," lead author Carlos de la Fuente Marcos, of the Complutense University of Madrid, said in a statement.

"The exact number is uncertain, given that the data that we have is limited, but our calculations suggest that there are at least two planets, and probably more, within the confines of our solar system," he added.

They are far enough away to be nearly impossible to spot with current instruments, according to Space.

Planet X was previously hypothesized in a 2014 research paper.

Called 2012 VP113, researchers Chadwick Trujillo and Scott Sheppard claimed that the object never came closer to the sun than 80 AU, according to Space.

The newly-found ETNO joins Sedna, another planet believed to be 10-times the size of Earth and lying 250 AU from the sun, as objects residing outside the Kuiper Belt, where Pluto resides, according to Space.

Pluto was only recently reclassified as a planet, albeit a Dwarf planet, after losing the distinction in 2006.
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posted January 21, 2015 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe there's thousands of planets that we have no idea about out there.

I think our astrology is just fine. 😊

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posted January 21, 2015 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I believe there's thousands of planets that we have no idea about out there.

I think our astrology is just fine. 😊


I second that 👍

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posted January 21, 2015 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But these are in our solar system, so the sharing of planets by signs could end. Two more planets would be ideal.

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posted January 21, 2015 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea, I think it'll be fine.

I consider the planets no more than symbols we use to track the energy that makes all of us what we are.

We can add this new planet into astrology and give it meanings like a new word in a dictionary but it would take a long time to have it match up with peoples experiences. But I'm neither smart enough or spiritual enough to advocate on how it should be done or if done at all.

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posted January 21, 2015 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't mean to imply it wouldn't be fine. But perhaps these could be the true rulers of Taurus and Virgo. Linda predicted two new planets would be discovered, although she thought one would be closer to the Sun than Mercury.

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posted January 21, 2015 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The discovery of Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto were very impacting.

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posted January 21, 2015 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps. I think it's a little hard to tell, because how would you really know? Ya know what I mean.

Astrology's been the same for many years. I don't think it'll change because new planets are discovered. It'll take another thousand (dramatic much lol) years to make the newly discovered planets make sense astrologically for people.

In my opinion the planets now make sense. Adding in more would throw things off.

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posted January 21, 2015 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
I didn't mean to imply it wouldn't be fine. But perhaps these could be the true rulers of Taurus and Virgo. Linda predicted two new planets would be discovered, although she thought one would be closer to the Sun than Mercury.

Maybe she meant Ceres and Eris?

Or Haumea, Sedna, Makemake and the other dwarf planets?

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posted January 21, 2015 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
I didn't mean to imply it wouldn't be fine. But perhaps these could be the true rulers of Taurus and Virgo. Linda predicted two new planets would be discovered, although she thought one would be closer to the Sun than Mercury.


The one closer to the Sun than Mercury that she predicted is Vulcan, other astrologers have predicted it too. Vulcan is predicted to be discovered next and apparently already has been in a way (by scientists) but they are keeping in under wraps and find it hard to accept because it doesn't have the same type of physical body as the other planets and is more akin to an "energy field" so they don't know what to call it. They will come round eventually. Astrologers predicted Pluto before it was found as well. So funny how science always "discovers" things that were already there, and that visionaries and others already predicted.

Science: "Ooh ooh look what *I* "discovered!!"

...Actually, that thing (species, element, planet..) always existed, you just came along, recognized it for what it was, named it and described it's physical characteristics and call that "discovered." Hahahaha oh science you crack me up.

And I'm sure you know this Randall, but the other planet Linda predicted was Pan-Horus for Taurus.

I don't think it will change astrology "forever" because nothing lasts forever. Or you could look at it as Astrology is changed forever all the time.

But it's not the first time the planets have been discovered either, making a 12 house, 12 planet, 12 sign system, but as per Linda's writings we often screw it up immensely after the 12th has been discovered and start the wheel all over again from the beginning, oh how quickly we forget...


"Sometimes I laugh, but sometimes I get mad, cause history repeats and it's the same damn plan..."

Truer words... Atlantis, Sumeria, Babylon, Egypt... round and round and round we go.

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posted January 21, 2015 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, I knew that.

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posted January 21, 2015 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It hasn't taken long for Pluto to become so impactful after first being discovered.

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posted January 21, 2015 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I knew you already knew all that, I was just stating for others who might not have read Linda.

You know lots more than you often let on.

Sometimes I can't help but wonder how much....

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posted January 21, 2015 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was going to say the same thing about Pluto too! Less than 100 years and lots of people didn't want to accept Pluto into astrology.

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posted January 21, 2015 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to Linda, Pluto is the most powerful planet. I can't imagine Astrology without it. Or without Uranus and Neptune. But the early Astrologers didn't have them.

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posted January 21, 2015 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Each planet has a ruling number. Pluto is ruled by zero. How fitting, since adding zeros to any number continues to multiply it.

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posted January 21, 2015 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
I didn't mean to imply it wouldn't be fine. But perhaps these could be the true rulers of Taurus and Virgo. Linda predicted two new planets would be discovered, although she thought one would be closer to the Sun than Mercury.


Yes, it is disconcerting that every sign does not have it's ruler.

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posted January 21, 2015 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...or maybe when we discover more and more planets, each sign would have more than one ruler, which is cool because that would help us to understand each of the signs' characteristics in depth.

And who knows, maybe we'll discover more signs too. I'm not exactly a fan of the 13th sign, Ophiucus, but there is a possibility future astrologers would incorporate it into the current astrological system. In the same way, these new planets could be incorporated into our current astrological system.

I believe we should all keep an open mind about this even though we may not like what we are seeing. There's far too much about the universe that we really don't know about yet.

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posted January 21, 2015 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These planets are discovered or more like the existence were confirmed. This implies that they were there in the first place, floating in space. It's just we didn't find them before. So we have been feeling the energy all along. I don't think astrology will change but perhaps evolve into different direction thanks to these new planets..?

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posted January 21, 2015 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not saying I agree with this, but Linda did say that a planet isn't felt till it's discovered.

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posted January 21, 2015 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder why she said that...

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posted January 21, 2015 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^I think she said it because of something along these lines... Until we are "evolved" enough to "discover" it we aren't evolved enough to feel it... fully at least. I think maybe some more "advanced" characters slip through that filter and that as we get closer to "discovering" it, more begin to feel it, subtly or not. Just personal thoughts.

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posted January 21, 2015 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted January 21, 2015 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by deepseablues:
^^I think she said it because of something along these lines... Until we are "evolved" enough to "discover" it we aren't evolved enough to feel it... fully at least. I think maybe some more "advanced" characters slip through that filter and that as we get closer to "discovering" it, more begin to feel it, subtly or not. Just personal thoughts.

This, I agree. We need to evolve and develop senses to feel the energy that is surrounding us. However, I don't know if it make sense that we will only be able to feel the energy when we have the evidence of the "physical matter"...?

Anyway, I'm a newbie so I don't know.. Hahahah sorry if my thoughts offended anyone

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posted January 21, 2015 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think many would disagree that dreamy Pisces isn't a perfect match for Neptune, that mysterious Scorpio isn't a perfect match for Pluto, or that unconventional Aquarius isn't a perfect match for Uranus. I certainly can't imagine Jupiter ruling Pisces! But before the outer planets were discovered, that was the case. Perhaps, that's what Linda meant.

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