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leosag
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posted January 24, 2015 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for leosag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

What do you think, what are the "must have" placements in partners´ compatibility chart for a good, long term relationship?
What are good to have?
What placements will be fatal?
And what are not "fatal", but will cause problems in long term?

For example:
Must have:
- My Emotions combine with his Self-Mastery - which means:'Emotional bond' (1st house moon in compatibility chart)
- My Sensuality flows with his Emotions strongly (Moon trine venus in compatibility chart)
- My Assertion works with his Sensuality extremely (Venus sextile Mars)

Good to have:
- His Mind combines with my Upheaval - 'Unconscious bond' (8th house Mercury)

Possibly fatal:
- My Emotions oppose with his Sensuality extremely (moon opposing Venus )
- My mind clashes with his Subconscious strongly (Mercury square Neptune)

May cause problems:
- My Emotions can confuse with his Mind extremely (Moon inconjunct Jupiter)


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Barbiegirl19
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posted January 24, 2015 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there!
Welcome to LL!

There are many must haves, it's tough to choose.

We actually have a forum that may offer you more responses than here. It's the Interpersonal Astrology forum if it helps any. Lots and lots of questions similar to the one you asked, with many willing to help.

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leosag
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posted January 24, 2015 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for leosag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thank you for the information, I will take a look at the Interpersonal Astrology forum.

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Gemini30
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posted January 24, 2015 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe a relationship needs to have:

Good jupiter aspects.
Mix of trines and squares/oppositions with the pesonal planets, especially the sexual planets.
At least 1 pluto aspect to a personal planet.

Boom. Marriage in a bottle.

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lalalinda
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posted January 24, 2015 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello leosag! Welcome to LL

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Kannon McAfee
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posted January 24, 2015 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
accidental duplication. deleted.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted January 24, 2015 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These synastry aspects are covered pretty well in a small paperback attributed to Linda Goodman, Relationship Signs (but which was really written by Carolyn Reynolds after Linda's death from what I understand).

However, one correction ... that book refers to 'squares' as any planetary position in 'square signs' or 'opposite' as any planets in opposite signs. Wrong. We don't use 30-degree orbs for any aspect. Aspects are geometry, not signs.

These synastry aspects should be measured as active only if within about 5* of exact or 6* or so for the luminaries.

First, it must be understood that 1-to-1 relating is not an equal playing field across all humanity. Some have far heavier karma in relationships in general and simply will have a tougher time, regardless of astrological specifics.

However, I will outline some of what I have observed directly, experienced personally, as well as learned from books...

1.) A *majority of positive, supportive aspects in synastry*. This means sextiles and trines plus conjunctions/parallels between harmonious planets;

At least one of these three following...

2.) Moon parallel/conjunct/contra-parallel/opposite/square Jupiter. This is one that helps overcome some stressful aspects and help maintain a good nature about the bumps of life between you.

3.) Moon ... Venus. Same aspects. Sextiles and trines are too soft or 'lazy' to do the job. All angular aspects are better.

3.) Sun:Jupiter or Venus:Jupiter. This brings energy and confidence. Same angular aspects.

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4.) Mercury aspects that enhance communication. Some, like Lois Rodden, rate these higher than anything. Venus-Mars 'hot' chemistry is overrated. It dies off easily. You need to be able to communicate well or deeply involved feelings turn negative, hurt and then injure the relationship unnecessarily. These may involve:

a) Sun, Asc, Moon, preferably some flowing and angular aspects. Remember, angular means motivation/energy.

b) Mars if flowing or Jupiter.

Strictly speaking, I don't believe there are single 'relationship killer' aspects. But for many people a combination of two or more of undesirable ones can prevent it from happening to start with or make it burdensome or worse.

Those BURDENSOME synastry aspects are:

- Stressful Mars-Pluto aspects (opposition, contra-parallel, square, quincunx). This is a principle that also applies to the Asc.

- Stressful Mars-Saturn aspects (same...).

- Angular Uranus (opposition/contra-parallel/square to Asc/Moon/Mercury).

- Angular Moon:Mars, including parallels/conjunctions.

- Angular Moon:Pluto, same.

- Saturn:Moon or Saturn:Asc -- squares, oppositions/contra-parallels, tight conjunctions/parallels.

NOTE: remember I am not saying that having any of the previous BURDENSOME aspects are relationship killers by themselves, but contraindicate the relationship if there are none of the Jupiter aspects up top to overcome up to two of them.

By default there tends to be some type of Moon:Asc, Sun:Asc or Moon:Sun synastry aspects. We tend to feel we fit with those people often even when there isn't much else in synastry to point to a long-term intimate possibility.

So first, count up how many total synastry aspects there are in both longitude and declination. You have to do both. If you leave out declinations you are looking at only half the picture. How would you like it if a teacher looked at only half your test answers and graded your term paper based on that?

Count synastry aspects as positive if they contain any combination of Sun:Jupiter, Sun:Venus, Moon:Venus, Moon:Jupiter, Venus:Jupiter. The rest are counted as usual.

You need to see at least a clear majority of positive aspects. Otherwise nothing else matters. This is something that most people don't seem to understand. You cannot base a healthy relationship on only a few standout desirable or 'hot sex' aspects. At least not a relationship with legs.


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Leo-Cancer98
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posted January 24, 2015 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MUST HAVE ASPECTS:
Sun conjunct Descendant
Sun conjunct or opposition Vertex
Sun conjunct North Node
Sun/Moon midpoint
Sun in 7th house
Moon conjunct Descendant
Moon conjunct or opposite Vertex
Moon conjunct North Node
Ascendant conjunct North Node or South Node

VERY GOOD ASPECTS TO HAVE:
Sun trine or sextile Sun
Sun conjunct, trine, or sextile Moon
Sun conjunct Venus
Sun trine Venus
Sun trine or sextile Mars
Sun conjunct, sextile, or trine Jupiter
Sun sextile or trine Saturn
Sun conjunct, trine, or sextile Chiron
Sun conjunct Ascendant
Sun conjunct South Node
Sun in 1st house
Moon conjunct, sextile, or trine Moon/Venus
Moon sextile or trine Mars/Ascendant
Moon conjunct, sextile, or trine Jupiter/Chiron
Moon sextile or trine Saturn
Moon conjunct Ascendant/IC/South Node
Mercury conjunct, sextile, or trine Jupiter
Venus conjunct, sextile, trine, or opposite Venus
Venus conjunct, sextile, or trine Mars
Venus conjunct Jupiter
Venus sextile or trine Saturn
Venus conjunct, trine, or sextile Chiron
Venus conjunct Ascendant/Descendant

GOOD ASPECTS TO HAVE:
Sun opposite Sun
Sun opposition Moon
Sun conjunct Mercury/Mars
Sun sextile or trine Mercury
Sun sextile Venus
Sun sextile or trine Ascendant/Uranus
Sun conjunct IC
Moon conjunct, sextile, or trine Mercury
Moon sextile or trine Uranus/Neptune/Pluto
Mercury sextile, conjunct, or trine Mercury/Venus
Mercury sextile or trine Mars
Mercury conjunct the Ascendant/Descendant
Mercury conjunct IC or MC
Venus square or opposite Mars
Venus trine or sextile Jupiter/Uranus
Venus conjunct Saturn/Neptune
Venus trine or sextile Ascendant/Neptune
Venus conjunct, trine or sextile Pluto
Venus conjunct IC or MC
Venus conjunct or opposite Vertex

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leosag
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posted January 25, 2015 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for leosag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

As I am new with it, I do not know how to read synastry chart well.

I did not find "Moon parallel/conjunct/contra-parallel/opposite/square Jupite" in our synastry chart.

Moon trine Venus is present. No Sun:Jupiter and Venus opposite Jupiter. AS sextile Mercury. MC Conjunction Mercury
Neptune Square Mercury. Lilith Square Mercury. Chiron SesquiQuadrate Mercury. Mercury SesquiQuadrate Moon. Mercury SesquiQuadrate Jupiter.
Sun SesquiQuadrate Mercury

No aspects of Mars Saturn or Mars Pluto or Angular Uranus.
And no Angular Moon:Mars.
Moon Quintile Pluto
Saturn SemiSextile AS

Our full chart:
Saturn Conjunction Sun Orb 0°50'
Lilith Conjunction MC Orb 2°59'
MC Conjunction Mercury Orb 3°56'
Mars Conjunction Mars Orb 4°57'
MC Conjunction AS Orb 6°57'
Neptune Conjunction Neptune Orb 8°39'
MC Conjunction Venus Orb 9°30'
Venus Opposite Moon Orb 0°43'
Venus Opposite Jupiter Orb 0°59'
Neptune Opposite MC Orb 1°46'
Venus Opposite Uranus Orb 4°30'
Jupiter Opposite Neptune Orb 5°53'
Sun Opposite Saturn Orb 7°45'
Neptune Square Mercury Orb 2°00'
Lilith Square Mercury Orb 3°13'
MC Square MC Orb 3°42'
Chiron Square Mars Orb 3°48'
AS Square Sun Orb 3°55'
Neptune Square AS Orb 5°01'
Sun Square Mars Orb 5°30'
Venus Square Venus Orb 5°56'
Sun Trine Venus Orb 0°38'
Chiron Trine Venus Orb 1°03'
Mars Trine Uranus Orb 1°31'
Moon Trine Venus Orb 2°53'
Saturn Trine Neptune Orb 2°56'
Jupiter Trine Saturn Orb 3°06'
Neptune Trine Sun Orb 4°52'
Pluto Trine MC Orb 5°00'
Mars Trine Jupiter Orb 5°02'
Mars Trine Moon Orb 5°19'
Jupiter Trine Pluto Orb 5°20'
Node Sextile Uranus Orb 0°25'
AS Sextile Mercury Orb 1°03'
Venus Sextile Mars Orb 1°04'
Saturn Sextile Pluto Orb 3°29'
Node Sextile Mars Orb 3°50'
Saturn Sextile MC Orb 3°55'
Node Sextile Jupiter Orb 3°56'
Jupiter Sextile Venus Orb 4°00'
AS Sextile AS Orb 4°05'
Node Sextile Moon Orb 4°12'
Chiron Inconjunction Uranus Orb 0°22'
AS Inconjunction MC Orb 0°49'
Jupiter Inconjunction Jupiter Orb 0°55'
Venus Inconjunction Saturn Orb 1°10'
Jupiter Inconjunction Moosyn Orb 1°12'
Sun Inconjunction Uranus Orb 2°04'
Lilith SemiSquare Mars Orb 0°04'
MC SemiSquare Mars Orb 0°38'
Chiron SemiSquare MC Orb 0°43'
Pluto SemiSquare Moon Orb 1°34'
Chiron SesquiQuadrate Mercury Orb 0°29'
Sun SesquiQuadrate AS Orb 0°49'
Mercury SesquiQuadrate Moon Orb 1°10'
Neptune SesquiQuadrate Mars Orb 1°18'
Mercury SesquiQuadrate Jupiter Orb 1°26'
Moon SesquiQuadrate Sun Orb 1°34'
Sun SesquiQuadrate Mercury Orb 2°11'
Pluto Quintile Neptune Orb 0°06'
Moon Quintile Pluto Orb 0°14'
AS Quintile Venus Orb 0°23'
Moon Quintile Saturn Orb 1°59'
Uranus BiQuintile MC Orb 0°58'
Mars SemiSextile Venus Orb 0°05'
Saturn SemiSextile AS Orb 0°40'
Jupiter SemiSextile Mars Orb 0°50

I am worried about:
Moon semisquare sun
My Moon opposes his Venus
My moon is inconjunct his Jupiter
Mercury semisquare Moon
Sun semisquare Mercury
His Venus is in opposition of my Jupiter
Jupiter inconjunct Jupiter
Mercury semisquare Jupiter
His Venus is inconjunct with my Saturn
Sun inconjunct Uranus
My Mercury square his Neptune
My MidHeaven oppose his Neptune
His Neptune semisquare my Mars


One interesting aspect:
8th House Mars

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ikja
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posted January 25, 2015 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My main advice to you as a newbie would be, concentrate on the aspects that have 3 degree orbs or less for the time being.

Then search each of those aspects individually via Google. If you typed into Google (for example) 'moon trine venus synastry LindaLand' - it is likely to give you threads/discussions from this website.

If you leave out the word LindaLand in search, you'll get external articles about the aspect you are interested in.

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