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Topic: Is Sun Sign Matching Superficial?
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margym0o
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posted January 26, 2015 09:10 PM
  
Example, my coworker is a Scorpio and has sworn off Cancers due to too many bad experiences, then asks me why this is since Scorpios and Cancers are said to be one of the best matches.I explained to her that it's not just your sun sign it's your whole chart that makes you who you are. And what's up with Scorpios and Cancers anyway?! It seems to be a very volatile pairing in reality. Scorpios sting and Cancers use their pincers. Ouch. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted January 26, 2015 09:45 PM
It's not always superficial. It depends on how significant the person's Sun is in their natal chart... and how much of that influence they have in the rest of the chart.
If you're looking at a Scorpio with Scorpio Mercury, Venus and SN in a relationship with a Cancer Sun, Mercury, Venus (with a close Sun/Moon aspect) --- They may well relate a lot to the standard Sun sign readings.
If the Scorpio has a stellium in Libra squaring Cancer - things won't go down so well. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted January 27, 2015 01:31 AM
Sun sign compatibility goes on the premise that we exhibit our Sun signs more openly than any other placement.I have found that it is usually the Venus/Mars sign that is dominant in relationships. But to appease people who don't want to delve deeper into astrology,Sun-sign comparisons are still very popular. In your example,you may have to look at the Scorpio woman's Venus/Mars placements to get a feel for her love style. If she has Capricorn Venus/Capricorn Mars, the Cancer man could just be too "Mommy oh my,sweet lovely cherry pie" for her. Whereas Libra Venus/Libra Mars could be attracted to Cancer.But be very confused with the Cancer's hot/cold tendencies etc. The whole chart really does count. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted January 27, 2015 01:55 AM
I find I get along well with signs that are in hard aspect to my sun, but I have a lot of those energies in my chart. These don't aspect each other in my chart....
Saggy Sun/MercNeptune early degrees 4-11 degree
Virgo moon 19 degree
Gem mars 29 degreeSo ppl with Sun signs in one of these might touch me and it be good instead of bad.
It's the whole chart! I rarely like saggys unless they have a chart that tames their fire like my chart tames mine. IP: Logged |
next to neptune
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posted January 27, 2015 07:33 AM
There is a lot to it... I don't get along with most taurus people so much, though I'm a virgo sun.
It has something to with them just pushing the wrong buttons in my chart. My 11th house is intercepted and in Taurus. I have nothing to do with taurus in my natal chart at all. Planets in taurus would either oppose my venus/pluto in scorpio, or they would rub som other planets in the wrong way. So I am a potential virgo sun girl who would sworn every taurus guys (or girls) off! My friendship/relationship with taurus people have always gone wrong and destructive at some point, so never again! IP: Logged |
margym0o
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posted January 27, 2015 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Sun sign compatibility goes on the premise that we exhibit our Sun signs more openly than any other placement.I have found that it is usually the Venus/Mars sign that is dominant in relationships. But to appease people who don't want to delve deeper into astrology,Sun-sign comparisons are still very popular. In your example,you may have to look at the Scorpio woman's Venus/Mars placements to get a feel for her love style. If she has Capricorn Venus/Capricorn Mars, the Cancer man could just be too "Mommy oh my,sweet lovely cherry pie" for her. Whereas Libra Venus/Libra Mars could be attracted to Cancer.But be very confused with the Cancer's hot/cold tendencies etc. The whole chart really does count.
Hmmmmmm what if she had Leo Venus/Capricorn Mars and he Gemini Venus/Libra Mars? IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted January 27, 2015 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Sun sign compatibility goes on the premise that we exhibit our Sun signs more openly than any other placement.I have found that it is usually the Venus/Mars sign that is dominant in relationships. But to appease people who don't want to delve deeper into astrology,Sun-sign comparisons are still very popular. In your example,you may have to look at the Scorpio woman's Venus/Mars placements to get a feel for her love style. If she has Capricorn Venus/Capricorn Mars, the Cancer man could just be too "Mommy oh my,sweet lovely cherry pie" for her. Whereas Libra Venus/Libra Mars could be attracted to Cancer.But be very confused with the Cancer's hot/cold tendencies etc. The whole chart really does count.
Yeah I agree. Whole chart.
I think sun would play a role SOMEWHAT similar to what we say that the asc plays. Deeper, but shows on the surface and plays a big role in initial attraction. Moon/Venus/mars joining, not taking over but joining the party as things get serious. Mercury also being extremely key throughout I think. With the chart as a whole really being the big picture. That's how I personally think of it. ******So in short, I think sun works pretty well for things up to dating maybe, but more serious than that requires us to look deeper. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted January 27, 2015 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by margym0o:
Hmmmmmm what if she had Leo Venus/Capricorn Mars and he Gemini Venus/Libra Mars?
Its interesting because I see more of a contradiction in her love style than he. The warm,dignified,"live to the joy of your heart" Leo Venus does not augur well with the restrained and emotionally blocked and taciturn Cap Mars. Often she may feel awkward,insecure and inexperienced when expressing her more buoyant side. And this is probably a side to her nature that will take time to fully exhibit-perhaps when she learns to trust? Otherwise she may seem weary or inhibiting of the same/similar expression in others. Often deeming such behavior "superficial" or lacking in substance etc. He on the other hand has comical Gemini Venus with romantic Libra Mars. A man of words, words, words. Beautiful,witty and charming words mind you. But they are lost on her because she wants more substance(Saturn Mars);abstract visionaries have little effect on her sex drive. Cap placements-even Mars tends to turn a romantic rendezvous into a "what if I married them?" scenario.So they put pressure on the partner to show some "maturity" early on. This always seems to stifle most of their budding romantic prospects. She should try a Cancer Man with the following placements for size Virgo Venus/Mars
Taurus Venus/Mars
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the89freespirit
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posted January 27, 2015 12:59 PM
I think that Sun sign matching is useful when supported by the other four inner planets. I do have a problem taking Sun sign compatibility too seriously because it's the "fast food" version of astrology. I'm definitely not perfectly matched with Aries and Sagittarius, even not with all Leos. And that's the kind of thing that makes people question astrology's effectiveness. There's no nuance to it. I think if someone's Sun is the same Element or even the same sign as yours, there might be an initial little spark. But, it can die out quickly because you'll stop having things in common. Now, if your Sun sign compatibility with someone is great AND you also have great synastry between each others' Moon, Mercury, Venus, and/or Mars, then it will likely be a match made in heaven, romantically or platonically. My best friend and I have scarily compatible synastry (we might have known each other in another life). We are both Leos, but that's not just it because I don't click as well with all Leos as I do with him. But, it's because we have Mercury conjunct Mercury, Moon sextile Moon, Moon trine Venus, Moon conjunct Mars, Venus conjunct Jupiter, etc. ------------------
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Blind writer
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posted January 27, 2015 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Its interesting because I see more of a contradiction in her love style than he.The warm,dignified,"live to the joy of your heart" Leo Venus does not augur well with the restrained and emotionally blocked and taciturn Cap Mars. Often she may feel awkward,insecure and inexperienced when expressing her more buoyant side. And this is probably a side to her nature that will take time to fully exhibit-perhaps when she learns to trust? Otherwise she may seem weary or inhibiting of the same/similar expression in others. Often deeming such behavior "superficial" or lacking in substance etc. He on the other hand has comical Gemini Venus with romantic Libra Mars. A man of words, words, words. Beautiful,witty and charming words mind you. But they are lost on her because she wants more substance(Saturn Mars);abstract visionaries have little effect on her sex drive. Cap placements-even Mars tends to turn a romantic rendezvous into a "what if I married them?" scenario.So they put pressure on the partner to show some "maturity" early on. This always seems to stifle most of their budding romantic prospects. She should try a Cancer Man with the following placements for size Virgo Venus/Mars
Taurus Venus/Mars
Elemental affinity is vital for MARS in love relationships, I agree. My Cap MARS is very agreeable to Virgo and fellow Cap MARS natives. VENUS is important too, but more benign, since it applies to all relationship types. VENUS herself is typically more forgiving too, in general. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted January 27, 2015 09:35 PM
Yes, superficial, ineffective, meaningless.------------------
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Aries Eagle
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posted January 28, 2015 10:40 AM
Because the Sun represent the soul it's for sure deep matching for me I like Sun Conjunction and Trines.------------------
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Barbiegirl19
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posted January 28, 2015 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Yes, superficial, ineffective, meaningless.
I agree with you, Kannon. There is so much more to a person than just their sun. If you really care to match things, then go for the Moon. Moon compatibility is the most important, in my opinion. IP: Logged |
Liliya
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posted January 28, 2015 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Because the Sun represent the soul it's for sure deep matching for me I like Sun Conjunction and Trines.
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Liliya
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posted January 28, 2015 11:10 AM
"Yes, superficial, ineffective, meaningless.", that's a bit harsh, hahaI give Sun signs compatibility at least 25% (25% for Moons). Of course other factors matter, like compatible Moons, Marses, aspects, etc. But in my experience, normally I get on much better with signs that are considered compatible with my Sun. Sun is our core personality. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted January 28, 2015 11:36 AM
Now wait.... I know this applies not to everyone but we'll sit here and say, "I can't stand caps" or Leos, etc etc.
Or, "I am crushing on this Scorpio guy, help".
Or, "every taurus I know will eat anything" etc.
"Cancer man quit talking to me" (that's a common one I see. LOL)
Then we downplay sun signs in threads like this.
Hmmmmm....
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Southern Sun
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posted January 29, 2015 08:01 AM
I've always looked at Sun sign matching on those ladies' mags and etc as "meh". For example, as a Leo I should get along swell with Aries and Sag. But my "true" friends are a Pisces/Aquarius cusp, a Gemini, two Cancer/Gem cusp and a solid fellow Leo.I wouldn't completely disregard it. Like the above poster said, people still use them when they need help, because that's all beginners know, having likely seen them from said ladies' mags. "My pisces man left me" or "Do Scorpios cheat?" IP: Logged |
Iced8Ace
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posted January 29, 2015 05:35 PM
What aspects the Sun is what matters. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen
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posted January 29, 2015 06:47 PM
Yes. I feel like it should be moons>venuses>mars>sun in that order. and I think synastry between those planets are just as important as between the same planet. Ie venus-moon venus-venus.But it could depend on the person. I really feel my moon. Some might feel thier sun more. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen
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posted January 29, 2015 06:49 PM
As for scorpios and cancera. With both, once you **** up, you've done ****** up. There's no going bsck. Both will act like they forgive but they will always feel the hurt when they see your face. As a cancer moon this has been my experience with scoprio moons..IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted January 29, 2015 08:18 PM
What about a planet's strength in the natal? (Pullen strength for example)
Do you think it changes things?
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bansheequeen
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posted January 29, 2015 09:15 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
What about a planet's strength in the natal? (Pullen strength for example)
Do you think it changes things?
Dunno what you mean exactly. Seems like a lot of people have outer planets as the strongest in thier pullen. Maybe the aspects to the inner planets from that particular outer planet? But also I don't know how I feel about someone who has Venus conjunct Pluto with like 92884738 people in the world, I feel like that synastry aspect is just generational to them at this point. Once gain I've rambled and not sure of what my otiginal point is... IP: Logged |
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