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Topic: Mars as The Destroyer
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wheresthemoon Knowflake Posts: 496 From: Texas Registered: Aug 2014
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posted January 27, 2015 01:42 PM
This could be a little cynical, but does anyone else see mars as being kind of a "destroyer"? I've heard mars transits are supposed to bring energy and drive, but I've never really experienced that feeling. I have, however, seem mars transits bring chaos or strife into the house it is transiting. Or just barely any effect at all. My friend had a mars transit to his second house. During that time, someone broke into his apartment and stole ALL his valuables. A few days later, someone stole a ladder off his work truck. Within the next week, the wind blew his motorcycle over and caused expensive damages. Here is a synastry example. I have two friends who work together. One of them is about fed up with the other because she likes to watch what she does and report back to the manager with little grievances. Basically sabotaging her career. In their synastry, the second friend (the tattle tale) has her mars conjunct the first friend's MC, as well as a tenth house stellium including Chiron. They do have other aspects that I think contribute to this, but I thought mars on the MC was pretty telling. Does anyone have good experience with mars by transit or maybe synastry? I'm struggling to understand the role of mars. For me, by transit it isn't very noticeable. My mars aspects: Opposing moon Sextile to mercury Novile Venus Semi-sextile Jupiter It is in the sign of cancer in my twelfth house. IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 4333 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted January 27, 2015 02:12 PM
I have a BML/Sun/Pholus conjunction in my 8H in Pisces, and Mars finally left my Pholus yesterday. But yes, it was much more like you were describing. I didn't feel energetic at all (granted, my Sun is in opposition to my Moon), but I did feel disproportionately enraged by the smallest thing. That transit really sucked, actually. I've always considered Mars to bring the potential for aggression from others, or accidents, for sure. I think the key is to express those feelings in the healthiest way possible, so that the energies don't express themselves by way of outside events that we can't control (that's sort of what Robert Hand teaches a lot of in his transit book, and it makes sense to me). I think a trine from Mars would be more productive than a conjunction or just passing through a house. It would sort of smooth things over. IP: Logged |
Koho Knowflake Posts: 332 From: New York Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 27, 2015 04:01 PM
Mars transits have never done too much. I suppose the energy of the fast moving planets can be easily missed. At the same time I usually know when Venus is playing because I feel beautiful and pretty and everybody likes me. *breaks something to reaffirm manliness* So I am still of very undecided opinion with fast moving transits. But! I can tell you natal Mars activated by Saturn is a tremendous energy. I've experienced the opposition and the trine. The opposition of tSaturn to nMar is seriously a 'destroyer'. Saturn was transiting my 6th house and it opposed my Mars. At or near exactness I ended up with a devastating knee injury. The opposition started out with great energy and discipline but it ended with me being unable to walk for 5-6 months and a very tender knee for a long time. Happened around 2011 and even now I don't think I can comfortably do a half marathon-marathon like I used to. So it destroyed my ambitions in that regard. And I probably wouldn't be able to join the 'elite' military groups I probably would of attempted otherwise. But other than those extremes I'm back in action. The trine is so much better. I feel like superman. Anything I think of I do. None of that 12th Mars engine starting trouble. I would honestly give up 10 years of longevity to have this as a permanent aspect. edit: 20 years of longevity IP: Logged |
Violets Knowflake Posts: 4333 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted January 27, 2015 04:39 PM
*cough*I was already not looking forward to t Pluto being conjunct my Cap Mars in 6H, but now I'm *really* not looking forward to it. I think I'll go live in a bunker for the next ten years or so. IP: Logged |
wheresthemoon Knowflake Posts: 496 From: Texas Registered: Aug 2014
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posted January 28, 2015 11:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by Koho: Mars transits have never done too much. I suppose the energy of the fast moving planets can be easily missed. At the same time I usually know when Venus is playing because I feel beautiful and pretty and everybody likes me. *breaks something to reaffirm manliness* So I am still of very undecided opinion with fast moving transits. But! I can tell you natal Mars activated by Saturn is a tremendous energy. I've experienced the opposition and the trine. The opposition of tSaturn to nMar is seriously a 'destroyer'. Saturn was transiting my 6th house and it opposed my Mars. At or near exactness I ended up with a devastating knee injury. The opposition started out with great energy and discipline but it ended with me being unable to walk for 5-6 months and a very tender knee for a long time. Happened around 2011 and even now I don't think I can comfortably do a half marathon-marathon like I used to. So it destroyed my ambitions in that regard. And I probably wouldn't be able to join the 'elite' military groups I probably would of attempted otherwise. But other than those extremes I'm back in action. The trine is so much better. I feel like superman. Anything I think of I do. None of that 12th Mars engine starting trouble. I would honestly give up 10 years of longevity to have this as a permanent aspect. edit: 20 years of longevity
Lol at the "breaks something to reaffirm manliness"=D Yes I have to say that I do feel the energies of other fast moving planets (like venus) much more than I do Mars. You said that Saturn was in the sixth house opposing your Mars when this happened? That would mean you have Mars in the twelfth, right? I have this placement. I wonder if the energies of Mars and the changes Mars transits bring are sort of "hidden" from us until something catastrophic like this happens since Mars is in the twelfth house? Aren't the energies or qualities of planets in the twelfth house supposed to be muddled or hard to access? Perhaps this is why the effects of Mars transits are sort of hidden from us. Maybe others can feel them more. The twelfth house is also the house of hidden enemies. Maybe that would mean Mars is like a "hidden enemy" to us. We don't feel its effects until it brings something terrible. A little morbid, but just a thought. I'm sorry about your knee injury. I will experience the exact same transit within the next couple years, so I will watch out for this! IP: Logged |
wheresthemoon Knowflake Posts: 496 From: Texas Registered: Aug 2014
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posted January 28, 2015 11:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by Violets: I have a BML/Sun/Pholus conjunction in my 8H in Pisces, and Mars finally left my Pholus yesterday. But yes, it was much more like you were describing. I didn't feel energetic at all (granted, my Sun is in opposition to my Moon), but I did feel disproportionately enraged by the smallest thing. That transit really sucked, actually. I've always considered Mars to bring the potential for aggression from others, or accidents, for sure. I think the key is to express those feelings in the healthiest way possible, so that the energies don't express themselves by way of outside events that we can't control (that's sort of what Robert Hand teaches a lot of in his transit book, and it makes sense to me). I think a trine from Mars would be more productive than a conjunction or just passing through a house. It would sort of smooth things over.
I think you're right about the trine being easier to deal with! Anytime a Mars transit HAS been apparent to me, it's been because of some huge/terrible life event. I had a pretty terrible personal event (I don't really want to elaborate) take place when Mars and Saturn were passing over my natal Pluto in the fifth house. In that case it was the conjunction and it was terrible. IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 4960 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted January 28, 2015 06:11 PM
In my experience Mars conjunctions to angles or the NN/SN axis in synastry can come with challenges. Usually it is Mars challenging the other person. I definitely don't see Mars as "the destroyer" though. Mars simply presents a challenge. It will not leave you alone or stop bugging you - whether it is by transit or coming from a person you're in contact with. You won't be able to relax and take a breath. You'll have to move quickly - because Mars requires action. Whether the Mars person is well-meaning or competitive towards you - the point is - they will get you *moving*. Sometimes this can be for the better, but it's definitely not easy energy to deal with. If you can rise up to the challenge and *fight* for whatever you want in that situation (in this case with MC/Mars, she would be fighting for her career) - then things usually work out well long term. Looking back on the experience you can even feel grateful that you met the Mars person at that time in your life. IP: Logged |
babybull82 Knowflake Posts: 546 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 28, 2015 10:12 PM
Hmm, this is interesting..but I always saw Pluto as the destroyer..My Scorpio daughter and her father when we were together are forever "destroying" (breaking) things whether accidental or out of anger lol I know that's not what you meant but I see mars as the instigator more than anything. Edit: It JUST occurred to me though that mars IS the traditional ruler of Scorpio. So...I stand corrected!! lol IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 824 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 29, 2015 07:26 PM
Yes. Very Martian people tend to fly off the handle at a small provocation and not care what havoc they create or the path of fire they leave.IP: Logged |