posted February 01, 2015 05:48 PM            

This whole transit has been a time of breaking down things in my subconscious, since Pluto's been in my 12th so far. I'm a part of that triple outer planets in Cap generation, so it's already crossed all of those planets.

I don't know how to describe it but it's been a very dramatic change. Busting out of all of those previous Capricorn limitations, especially since it's conjunct my Neptune (which is conjunct my ASC in my birth chart). Just busting out of this box I placed myself in my whole life because of conditioning and false beliefs. I feel like I've emerged from a cocoon, ready to fly.

That's what the Pluto conjunct the Rising sign transit is all about. I feel very blessed, too, because many people don't get to experience this radical change and empowerment in their lifetime because Pluto won't be in the same sign as their Rising when they're alive.

I can't even relate to the stereotypical descriptions of Capricorn Rising supposedly being stiff and socially awkward and really reserved. In fact, I definitely think plenty of people with this Rising sign are NOT this way. But, it can cause you to sort of chain yourself down, in a way, or just be way too harshly judgmental of yourself. But, I've released myself from that, thanks to Pluto. I think I still have a noticeably composed, mature, in-control way of being and probably always will. But, I'm so much more relaxed and self-confident and at ease in my own skin now. I also feel way more in touch with my Neptune rising and how I'm projecting it. It's a much more conscious thing now.

Any other Cap Risers able to relate? Is Pluto touching your Ascendant now? If not, when will it in the future? How is he changing you?

posted February 02, 2015 04:38 PM            

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Originally posted by deepseablues:
Dramatic changes yes. I can relate to some of the stuff you have said. I know I've talked about this in other threads, but I recently finished with the Pluto conjunct Asc transit with retrogrades from 2012-2014, I am so happy those years and transits are over. I have Asc/Saturn/Neptune exact conjunction, opposite Jupiter by 1 deg, all square Moon. Those years were some of the worst of my life and I am still picking up the pieces. Pluto took everything I had, and I mean everything. I even got robbed during this transit, my entire cash savings was stolen as well I got into the first debt of my life to try and help/save my partner. I have always feared/avoided debt, now I am still working to pay that off. The possibly hardest two days of my life happened on the day Pluto conjuncted my Asc/Saturn/Neptune for the third time. Really too much happened to delve into here. Intense power struggles. I cried many a river. Physical violence at times. My partner/best friend of nearly six years had a heroin relapse and lied to me for almost the entire time Pluto was crossing the Asc and back and a lot of psychological junk has definitely come to the surface to be dealt with. Lost my partner, lost my home, almost lost my job (did lose it for a short while), lost my couple of remaining family members, worst of all, lost myself. I feel like I have transformed majorly since these transits and am continuing on the transformation everyday (I think I am still in the cocoon stage of becoming a butterfly) but I am truly glad those transits are over, although I know maybe they should be considered a gift because as you said not everyone will experience such a Pluto transit in their life, at times I wish I never had to go through with it. Now I am gearing up for the dreaded Saturn transit through the 12th house which will end with a lovely bang with Saturn Return exactly conjunct Asc/Neptune...

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Sounds like we're about the same age.

I'm so sorry that you've been through all of that. But, yes, try to find the lessons in everything. Do you have a lot of Pluto already in your chart? Because I read that, for people who aren't highly Plutonian, major Pluto transits (especially the conjunction ones) can be quite devastating. It's like all this trauma and transformation starts coming from nowhere. But, for people who are already strongly Pluto, it feels pretty natural.

I have had a lot of changes in my life during this time but none have felt too traumatic. In fact, I've been able to see the silver lining in them, even though they've been tough, at times. Finally breaking most of my ties with my toxic family is the big one. I talk to them less and less, though contact hasn't been completely cut yet. Totally financially free from them, as of now. And that's all felt very empowering, even though it's brought up some pain.

I think the Saturn in Scorpio transit was much, much harder on me. Maybe because the mutual reception brought out more of Pluto's shadow? But, now that that's mostly done (not totally looking forward to the retrograde in the summer, but whatever), I feel much lighter and freer.

I'm actually looking forward to my Saturn transit in a couple of years, for some reason. I don't think it's going to be a drag, especially since Jupiter will be conjunct my Moon, Midheaven, and Pluto in Scorpio by that time. So, I foresee good things. And from what I hear, Capricorn Rising people usually enjoy their Saturn return (figures ). It feels like, "Yes, real adulthood, at last." I think that's the reason why we get better as we get older because our lives actually start matching up with our inner maturity level.

posted February 02, 2015 06:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Southern Sun:
Looking back, it is feeling myself becoming more cold and less cheerful as time goes by. I'm more random and rebellious than before, but the colorful imagination I used to have feels like it took a nosedive I've definitely gotten "darker". Like you, its crossing all of my Capricorn outer planets, currently conj Neptune.

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Is it in your 12th or your 1st? Cause those feelings could be the potential disillusion and confusion of the 12th.

posted February 02, 2015 11:47 PM              

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
Sounds like we're about the same age.

I'm so sorry that you've been through all of that. But, yes, try to find the lessons in everything. Do you have a lot of Pluto already in your chart? Because I read that, for people who aren't highly Plutonian, major Pluto transits (especially the conjunction ones) can be quite devastating. It's like all this trauma and transformation starts coming from nowhere. But, for people who are already strongly Pluto, it feels pretty natural.

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I guess I don't have that much Pluto in my chart, besides being a Scorpio, and having Pluto widely conjunct my Sun (10 deg) and conjunct my Midheaven (3 deg), trine my Jupiter and Chiron. And yes the Saturn through Scorpio was also very difficult as well as through Libra as 3 of my personal planets are in Libra, those years were very rough indeed as well. I sure hope you are right about the Saturn Return and Cap Risers, I don't have much hope but I'm also trying not to despair.

posted February 03, 2015 12:14 AM            

I had Pluto conj my Saturn first, but that transit is done. This one was really hard, because I lost friends due to changing personalities, close family members dying, having authority try and control my responsibilities, becoming a little darker and bleak in outlook, and being forced into situations where I had to let go of self-imposed limitations. A few unexpected health issues that required life changes and behaviors, as well as evaluating what I wanted out of life.

Changes were initiated by Pluto trine Mars- loved this transit! This transit gave me the determination to overcome the numerous setbacks in my way. So much energy and started running past 13 miles. Unfortunately I am injured now so I am more conservative in mileage. But it did put me on a career path I never would have expected.

Pluto conj Neptune has been harder. A lot of disillusionments and realizations that some of my beliefs about myself and my life were false and needed to be blown wide open. People and situations profoundly disappointed me, forcing me to cut ties with everything that no longer suited my life. Struggling between having greater hope and losing it quickly. Redefining what I want both spiritually and materially.

Its not over though!

Pluto will conj my Mercury and my Venus eventually in 1st :/

posted March 18, 2015 06:36 AM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
Sounds like we're about the same age.

I'm so sorry that you've been through all of that. But, yes, try to find the lessons in everything. Do you have a lot of Pluto already in your chart? [b]Because I read that, for people who aren't highly Plutonian, major Pluto transits (especially the conjunction ones) can be quite devastating. It's like all this trauma and transformation starts coming from nowhere. But, for people who are already strongly Pluto, it feels pretty natural.

I have had a lot of changes in my life during this time but none have felt too traumatic. In fact, I've been able to see the silver lining in them, even though they've been tough, at times. Finally breaking most of my ties with my toxic family is the big one. I talk to them less and less, though contact hasn't been completely cut yet. Totally financially free from them, as of now. And that's all felt very empowering, even though it's brought up some pain.

I think the Saturn in Scorpio transit was much, much harder on me. Maybe because the mutual reception brought out more of Pluto's shadow? But, now that that's mostly done (not totally looking forward to the retrograde in the summer, but whatever), I feel much lighter and freer.

I'm actually looking forward to my Saturn transit in a couple of years, for some reason. I don't think it's going to be a drag, especially since Jupiter will be conjunct my Moon, Midheaven, and Pluto in Scorpio by that time. So, I foresee good things. And from what I hear, Capricorn Rising people usually enjoy their Saturn return (figures ). It feels like, "Yes, real adulthood, at last." I think that's the reason why we get better as we get older because our lives actually start matching up with our inner maturity level.

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posted September 24, 2016 08:45 PM            

Big Changes for me as well and yes I feel it too...

I don't think you should blame yourself for false beliefs.

For me its my stubborn beliefs that kept me going and made me to the point where I can move on to better things.

Its similar to being on a plane that just crashed your slightly injured and your the only one that says "I need to survive, just one more day" and you push yourself.

There are other passengers that are worst off then you and other passengers that could make it but have given up on surviving.

Do you fall into temptation? or do you keep on going.

I've had to deal with that sorta thing for several years now.

Finally, things are paying off I don't know if its mix of luck and good planing.

But, yes lots of opportunities for me. I'm making a change of residence, by April I'm officially an Engineer.

Interest rates in Canada are going to be low for another 5yrs since the economy is too dependent on Commodities and cant grow.

Perfect timing for a nice home if you have saved some money and have good credit.

I'm also getting more phone calls for my field of work where I live, but I've already decided to leave as I know there too good to be true, best to leave...

Even my current boss and her second is sad to see me go.

I could go on....so yes I'm happy with the changes.

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Gemini Sun,
Capricorn Rising
Aries Moon
Gemini Mercury
Venus Taurus
Mars Cancer

posted September 25, 2016 05:39 PM            

I lost my job in March which has sent me on a spiral of delays, worrying about money all the time...I was thinking today - how do I get through this? everything that was stable is now turned upside down...Radical change for sure - am only hoping it is shifting my world to get me where I need to be...

posted September 25, 2016 10:05 PM            

Then when tPluto came closer to opposing my 7h Cancer Moon, I got pregnant. Which was a mix, I wasn't planning a child, but it was a blessing, and very little transforms you in ASC areas more than having a surprise pregnancy. I have a beautiful child.

But THEN, as it came closer to opposing my nSaturn, tPluto destroyed and crushed me and took away a lot of what I value most. I found out my ex/baby's father was a liar, and he betrayed me and then HE left ME....I left my home of many years....my mother died, my aunt died, my cat even died....I had some health scares....I could go on and on. It has just kept getting worse. The most important things that have been destroyed have been my sweetness, optimism, curious spirit, compassion, (inner) beauty and open heart. My daughter hasn't gotten to meet the well-meaning, Leonine person I was before this PoS AVOIDABLY betrayed me, humiliated me and crushed my spirit at a difficult time of my life. I could have handled all the rest of it, I think, but having someone I loved and trusted deceive me was something I couldn't handle.

I would never actually commit suicide or homicide--I have a child---but I had lots of suicidal and homicidal thoughts and fantasies. I am still trying to work through the anger and grief. I was talking to an old friend about it yesterday---she didn't understand why i'm still so upset. But for me personally, things went very dark.

I generally like Pluto energy (8h Sun, Mercury and Mars natally, Pluto natally square my AC/DC (0)).....and when I had tPluto conjunct my Cap AC, I really thought I was transforming in all the ways I WANTED to, like it was a doorway.

I wish my life had continued transforming in the ways it was starting to in autumn 2012, and that my new daughter had seen me that way and gone on THAT journey with me---I'm still in horrible shock that the bad way things have turned was even possible for ME, in my life, with who and how I am. It feels like a nightmare and I keep expecting to wake up. I can't believe it's real. Every single day, my Leo heart expects things to right themselves---for my ex to show up on my doorstep explaining that he recovered memories of priests abusing him or something, something that explains why he acted the way he did, and tell me he'll spend every second of his life trying to earn my forgiveness, starting with committing to years of therapy so he doesn't act like that again......I keep expecting, if the universe can't reverse what happened to me and have me wake up from the nightmare, at least to know the reason and have a truly good explanation, AND to have things repaired as much as possible.

I think Uranus plays a big role here--things were good during/after my Saturn Return, and pretty fantastic tPluto conjunct my AC.....when things really got horrible, my Uranus Opposition was starting. I have Venus in a t-square to Uranus-opposite Chiron natally, so my Uranus Opposition is also tUranus conjunct my 4h Chiron.

Now I'm sort of working hard to process everything. I still mostly expect to come out of this victorious.

posted September 28, 2016 06:11 PM            

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When tPluto crossed/conjuncted my Asc, it was one of the best times of my life, thinking back on it. I think I was looking kind of beautiful....I was doing some life-changing work and travel....it seemed like I was (finally) heading into the breakthrough I wanted in my career. I was falling in love with a close friend of mine....who, thinking back on it, would probably have been a better match for me in many ways than the other men I'd been with....and an ex who had left me (when I did not want the rekationship to end) came back to me and declared his love.

Then when tPluto came closer to opposing my 7h Cancer Moon, I got pregnant. Which was a mix, I wasn't planning a child, but it was a blessing, and very little transforms you in ASC areas more than having a surprise pregnancy. I have a beautiful child.

But THEN, as it came closer to opposing my nSaturn, tPluto destroyed and crushed me and took away a lot of what I value most. I found out my ex/baby's father was a liar, and he betrayed me and then HE left ME....I left my home of many years....my mother died, my aunt died, my cat even died....I had some health scares....I could go on and on. It has just kept getting worse. The most important things that have been destroyed have been my sweetness, optimism, curious spirit, compassion, (inner) beauty and open heart. My daughter hasn't gotten to meet the well-meaning, Leonine person I was before this PoS AVOIDABLY betrayed me, humiliated me and crushed my spirit at a difficult time of my life. I could have handled all the rest of it, I think, but having someone I loved and trusted deceive me was something I couldn't handle.

I would never actually commit suicide or homicide--I have a child---but I had lots of suicidal and homicidal thoughts and fantasies. I am still trying to work through the anger and grief. I was talking to an old friend about it yesterday---she didn't understand why i'm still so upset. But for me personally, things went very dark.

I generally like Pluto energy (8h Sun, Mercury and Mars natally, Pluto natally square my AC/DC (0)).....and when I had tPluto conjunct my Cap AC, I really thought I was transforming in all the ways I WANTED to, like it was a doorway.

I wish my life had continued transforming in the ways it was starting to in autumn 2012, and that my new daughter had seen me that way and gone on THAT journey with me---I'm still in horrible shock that the bad way things have turned was even possible for ME, in my life, with who and how I am. It feels like a nightmare and I keep expecting to wake up. I can't believe it's real. Every single day, my Leo heart expects things to right themselves---for my ex to show up on my doorstep explaining that he recovered memories of priests abusing him or something, something that explains why he acted the way he did, and tell me he'll spend every second of his life trying to earn my forgiveness, starting with committing to years of therapy so he doesn't act like that again......I keep expecting, if the universe can't reverse what happened to me and have me wake up from the nightmare, at least to know the reason and have a truly good explanation, AND to have things repaired as much as possible.

I think Uranus plays a big role here--things were good during/after my Saturn Return, and pretty fantastic tPluto conjunct my AC.....when things really got horrible, my Uranus Opposition was starting. I have Venus in a t-square to Uranus-opposite Chiron natally, so my Uranus Opposition is also tUranus conjunct my 4h Chiron.

Now I'm sort of working hard to process everything. I still mostly expect to come out of this victorious.

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Lucia, I'm sorry to hear how things have developed for you. I hope you'll gain back some of your Leonine shining good qualities you used to have. I know that when something terrible happen, many times the question is "why? Why has it happened?" And sometimes the universe doesn't provide you with answers, at least not right away. Sometimes it may take years until one understands how a certain bad experience strenghened him or her. I've been through something hellish myself some 8 years ago, and am still recovering. I still don't understand fully why I was so blind then to things that today I see much more clearly. But it's a process. I'm mad at myself for not doing 5he right choice, even way before that. But today I know myself a little bit better, and perhaps this is too for the best.

By the way, in several years I will have too my Uranus opposition, and tUranus will conjunct natal chiron too, just like in your case (only in the 5th house). I guess I should expect something painful to happen...

posted September 29, 2016 11:35 AM            

But my mind has been opened to the realities of existence, why we are here and what I personally think needs to be accomplished. I like helping others understand that there's a purpose beyond what is immediately presented