posted February 03, 2015 11:58 AM            

I understand people who deal with these energies day in & day out are more equipped to handle it, but I'm sure it gets rough. I'm struggling with one I couldn't imagine 2 or 3 planets there!

posted February 03, 2015 03:49 PM            

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Originally posted by anno_lucis:
i have a few 12th housers (suns- taurus, leo, and aries, mainly) as friends and they are some of the most selfless people i've ever met. they take the weight of the world on their shoulders. chart ruler in 12th should count aswell...these people have a rough time.

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Yeah, my Venus is my chart ruler. (Libra) in 12th.
A member no longer here once pointed out that with libra rising, and merc/venus/mars in 12th.
My 1st, 7th, 8th, 9th, and 12th house rulers are in 12th. LOL

posted February 03, 2015 10:27 PM            

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Originally posted by babybull82:
Well perhaps my whining comes from being a rookie but I really hate this sh*t I'm miserable. I'm glad you guys can work with it and even like your 12th house planets, that's awesome.

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posted February 04, 2015 08:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Kibriana:
Thank you, that's a very nice of you to say. As for us being "superhumans" to deal with our 12th house mess all our live, we don't really have a choice, don't we? We made our beds a long time ago, somewhere among the stars, and now we have to lie in them. Everything is a lesson, I guess.

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Hmm, so are you implying that perhaps 12th house planets are some sort of karma for something that happened in the past? You know I've read somewhere that when a person has planets in the 12th they committed suicide in a past life..please don't quote me on that but I've heard it some where.

posted February 04, 2015 08:54 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
So what is difficult for those that are experiencing it through transit?

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Well for me I'm having jupiter here and it's basically making all of my mental issues seem 10x bigger than they normally are. All the mental trash that gets swept under the rug is being expanded and front and center.

Also I'm sure it's other things too but I've been so freaking lazy and I'm just forever wanting to be alone, but of course with jupiter it's in the extreme. And then like yesterday when the moon is there and conjuncting jupiter it's get's even worse!! I've had to start my anxiety meds again just to feel normal and have some get up and go. September can't get here fast enough.

Oh and another thing I noticed during this transit is I'm meeting a lot of people who's jupiter's fall in my 12th and I can't trust them as far as I can throw them...even if they are telling the truth and there is proof I still just can't see them as trustworthy.

posted February 05, 2015 06:37 AM            

I have an ambitious make up so I do it but it isn't easy. I felt the huge difference when I had Saturn trine Mars transit happening. No more yelling at myself to get things done - something had to be done so I did it. That was that. It was like my Mars was fully functioning for once. If it could perform like that everyday of my life I would rule the world.

I also have it beat up by aspect. It's the only planet on my chart with squares. Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Moon in Capricorn in the 8th squaring it. Jupiter sextiles it from the 1st though and I attribute that to my somewhat ability to deal with this energy.

posted February 05, 2015 09:49 AM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I find that embracing that desire to be alone is really helpful.
It used to be a real struggle but now the struggle is that I don't get to be alone as much as I want.
Being alone and not feeling like you're missing out on anything or being abnormal will probably rejuvenate you.

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posted February 05, 2015 05:06 PM            

A 12H Jupiter transit positively used is a time for turning inward, for contemplation and meditation, and for tuning into the subtle, symbolic, or archetypal dimensions of existence and for spiritual pursuits and practices. For people who have an outward orientation, who are very social and extraverted and don't like to be alone, or have no interest in spirituality, this would tend to be a difficult transit for them. It can be isolating and energy tends to be at a low ebb.

People with planets in the 12H at their best have a rich, inner life and are attuned to subtle energies and other dimensions of existence.

The problematic side of having planets in the 12H is that it may be hard to access or be aware of the energies represented by the planets in the 12th. Planets in the 12H may represent an unconscious area for people.

The 12H represents the depths and the heights of the Unconscious. It is the most mysterious of the houses, the most lofty and spiritual as well as pathological in human beings. It's the house of saints and sinners, transcendence as well as karma and enmeshment.

posted February 05, 2015 05:10 PM            

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Originally posted by babybull82:
Well for me I'm having jupiter here and it's basically making all of my mental issues seem 10x bigger than they normally are. All the mental trash that gets swept under the rug is being expanded and front and center.

Also I'm sure it's other things too...

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Sounds like Mercury is involved and/or a Pluto transit to Mercury.

posted February 05, 2015 05:15 PM            

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Originally posted by peony:

I regard Jupiter in the 12H as a blessing, as protection from spiritual forces ready to respond if we ask for help.

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Interesting you say that because I've been having some weird dreams lately and one of them was I was sitting on my couch and I had two dogs and my right hand was in one's mouth and my left hand was in another. They weren't vicious nor did they hurt me. But I felt like they were disappointed in me and didn't want to let go of my hand.

posted February 05, 2015 05:17 PM            

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Originally posted by peony:
Sounds like Mercury is involved and/or a Pluto transit to Mercury.

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posted February 05, 2015 05:27 PM            

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Originally posted by babybull82:
Hmm, so are you implying that perhaps 12th house planets are some sort of karma for something that happened in the past? You know I've read somewhere that when a person has planets in the 12th they committed suicide in a past life..please don't quote me on that but I've heard it some where.

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posted February 06, 2015 09:35 AM            

I think 12th House people have to come to a point of surrender, where they stop investing their happiness in things of the world. I've had to do this myself. At first, it was a tough pill to swallow. But, I've realized that my suffering and sadness have come from being so attached to the things that I want (Pluto's influence also teaches this lesson, though in a more brutal way, and I have plenty of Pluto, as well). And not getting it has constantly made me feel like I've been hitting one wall after the next.

But, I feel so much better focusing my energy on other people and their desires, instead of my own. It feels freeing and being able to do that recently has made me happier and lighter. So, 12th House has to come to terms with self-sacrifice (but self-sacrificing in healthy, constructive ways; that difference should be pointed out). When you do, then this house is wonderful. When you can't, then you're just going to suffer. Serve or suffer.

I wrote an article on the 12th House on my blog, in case anyone wants to read it.
http://astroarena12.blogspot.com/2014/09/hiding-out-in-12th-house.html

posted February 06, 2015 07:39 PM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
I have Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune in the 12th, with Neptune conjunct my Ascendant.

I think 12th House people have to come to a point of surrender, where they stop investing their happiness in things of the world. I've had to do this myself. At first, it was a tough pill to swallow. But, I've realized that my suffering and sadness have come from being so attached to the things that I want (Pluto's influence also teaches this lesson, though in a more brutal way, and I have plenty of Pluto, as well). And not getting it has constantly made me feel like I've been hitting one wall after the next.

But, I feel so much better focusing my energy on other people and their desires, instead of my own. It feels freeing and being able to do that recently has made me happier and lighter. So, 12th House has to come to terms with self-sacrifice (but self-sacrificing in healthy, constructive ways; that difference should be pointed out). When you do, then this house is wonderful. When you can't, then you're just going to suffer. Serve or suffer.

I wrote an article on the 12th House on my blog, in case anyone wants to read it.
http://astroarena12.blogspot.com/2014/09/hiding-out-in-12th-house.html

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