posted February 13, 2015 09:37 PM            

The Venus-Mars conjunction is in effect from the 20th-23rd February and most exact on the 22nd February .

Daniel Fiverson http://www.4evolutionaryastrology.com/venus-mar-conjunctions-2015.html quotes Paul Coelho in his article about the upcoming three conjunctions of Venus and Mars in 2015:

“Love is not to be found in someone else, but in ourselves; we simply awaken it. But in order to do that, we need the other person. The universe only makes sense when we have someone to share our feelings with.”--Paulo Coelho

Michele Finey, http://www.cosmicintelligenceagency.com/mars-and-venus/

says, "When Venus and Mars unite, their conjunction symbolises the beginning of a new cycle, signalling a time when new relationships are often established."

I think it's significant that the conjunction is on 0 degrees, the Aries point(vernal equinox in the tropical zodiac), and that Aries and Libra are ruled by Mars and Venus respectively.

Kim Falconer, http://www.falconastrology.com/pdfs/Aries%20Point.pdf

says,

'The AP[aries point] represents a movement (cardinal) from an inner quality
to an outer manifestation. It orients us towards the world at
large—society, public events and all relationships propelled from
the individual to the collective. Sometimes it represents a
"spectacular out rush of energies... and involvement with the
world at large" Celest Teal'

Does this mean that we are more likely to find our special other at this time, after all the transiting true node was just at 11.11 Libra on the 6th February. Or is something more personal and significant going on in the evolution of human relationships.

How will it affect you? And what will be happening in the world on that day. What new romances this Valentine's day will have their first dates next weekend?

Happy Valentine's Day everyone!

posted February 14, 2015 05:50 PM            

"And…even better…Venus and Mars will be trining Saturn (at 4 degrees Sag) from February 19th (for Mars) and 20th (for Venus and Mars) to February 24th (Venus/Saturn) and February 25th (Mars/Saturn). This is the ideal way to start off anything in Aries; this sign is great at beginnings, but can run out of steam half way through. The trine from Saturn will provide stability, commitment and an even flow of energy (Venus and Mars can become exhausted and sputter out in Aries, if they don’t have a restraining influence). Again, no guarantees, but this bodes very nicely for long term developments."

and back to Michele Finey, on the three venus-mars conjunctions occurring in 2015:
http://celestialinsight.com.au/2014/02/19/venus-mars/

"In 2015 there will be a total of three Venus-Mars conjunctions, in February, September and November. The last time there were three Venus-Mars conjunctions in just one calendar year was in 1985 and also two years before this in 1983.

I personally recall the intensity of these years, both in my life and also in a global sense. There was a euphoric feeling in the ether. A great deal of creative energy was unleashed and there were a lot of intense endings and beginnings.

In 1983 two new Venus-Mars cycles were born, and 32 years on, the September and November 2015 conjunctions are the second conjunctions in these cycles. (For a full explanation of the 32-year Venus-Mars cycle, refer to my book The Sacred Dance of Venus and Mars).

2015 is likely to be a powerhouse year of changing allegiances, creative highs and passionate exchanges. It also seems set to be a year when many people will forge new love relationships."

The transiting North Node in its normal retrograde motion will be in Libra until October 10th this year.

Stargazer, on facebook, says
https://www.facebook.com/StargazerAstroAtlas/posts/500675256741769

"The North Node continues to transit Libra through October 11th, and the evolutionary emphasis is still directing us to relate as equals and combine our energies equitably and productively within relationships.

then,
"The evolutionary cycle indicated by the North Node in Libra made this apparent. One caveat will be that during the Venus - Leo transit (August - September), Saturn will have moved back into Scorpio, forming a contentious square - seems that circumstances may prohibit a relationship from taking root, at least until early November, at the time of the final Venus - Mars conjunction in Virgo."

Rose Marcus says, http://rosemarcus.com/astrolink/

"Once Mercury retrograde is out of the way, we are onto full-thrust, spring-forward time. The super new moon on Feb 18 occurs at the very last degree of Aquarius. The Chinese New Year of the Goat begins on Feb 19, the same day Mars enters Aries. Venus enters Aries on Feb 20, and Venus and Mars conjoin on Feb 21 to begin a new relationship and manifesting cycle. The Goat archetype is Capricorn. Well directed ambition and action combined with right time will net the pay-off. How do you what right course and right time is? Step one is to feel/to draw from the energy of the here and now. Step two requires you to take a risk on a new way of being and creating. Ditch preconceived judgements, go exploring, and allow for the discovery process to use time as an ally. Mars in Aries ignites instinct and desire. Venus in Aries attracts that which desired. Both increase the potency and fertility of the moment."

and,
"As soon as both Mars and Venus enter Aries, they align by trine with Saturn (Capricorn’s planet.) This combination is an excellent out-the-starting-gate backdrop for the Year of the Goat. If you have set yourself on the right track, you should hit your mark very well. Venus/Mars trine Saturn boosts you with a sense of security, rightness, or legitimacy. You’ll easily find or attain what’s authentically yours and/or meant for you. If you have not yet figured it out, don’t sweat it. Circumstances will define your best options and/or show you the way in some plain paper way."

I like how the Chinese New Year coincides with the timing of the Venus-Mars conjunction and how the day after the conjunction there is a square between the Sun and Saturn. This square suggests to me that there will be a defined illumination of the compromises we need to make. We may come to loggerheads with others over our decisions that we feel we need to make to achieve our purposes and goals however. And for some people, their goals and identity will find expression within a more acceptable framework to maintain the harmony of the Venus-Mars conjunction, however they may feel there will be some difficult decisions to make but with Mercury in Aquarius the communications will be geared to the greater good.

The Astrology Club, writing about the Chinese New Year of the goat(sheep)in 2015, says http://astrologyclub.org/chinese-horoscope/2015-year-sheep/

"The Sheep (Goat) is a Yin energy, a symbol of Peace, Harmonious co-existence and Tranquility. That is the primary and fundamental mood for this year. Though there are cries for War and a countdown is soon to begin, if any almanac serves me well – War will be averted and a period of mending and compromise will be undertaken to ensure Peace is maintained."

and,
"The emphasis will be on joining forces in order to fight the evil and destruction that has been brewing. With the planet Saturn into the sign Scorpio [on June 15th] and the planet Pluto in its long stay in the sign Capricorn, there will be greater concern with structure, getting back to basics and using greater intuition to find solutions to problems that have been plaguing the world for some time."

So hopefully with the three Venus-Mars conjunctions in 2015, beginning with the first one on 22 February, the North Node in Libra for most of the year, and the Chinese Year of the Goat (19 February), will herald some peace and better global relationships.

posted February 14, 2015 09:23 PM            

I think D will be in contact with you this month though maybe you will contact him first.

He could well say to you something like:
"I thought that was you or from you, I couldn't mistake such and such - you've still got your lovely long hair (I think). I wanted to get back to you but I've been busy as you probably would know."

Then I get the feeling he has other plans and makes some kind of escape/exit.

posted February 15, 2015 10:42 PM            

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Originally posted by elixir:
So my asc is 2 aries and the guy I am talking to has mars as 0 libra(on my vertex/dsc). I'm curious to see how the energy will feel on this days.

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The rest of the chart will modify things as well but perhaps I can see what each person would generally experience during the Venus- Mars conjunction in Aries.

Just you and not taking into consideration the guy, you would experience it as kind of like you would be calling someone to you on some level - or attracting or pulling people to you. Though they may remain platonic because although you would be quite bright in your resonation and others would be attracted to you, you would seem like you were off the shelf - some potential others might potentially break through and briefly hook up with you but generally there would be a resistance to forming relationships inherent within the energies, not from lack of want on your part but from the cosmic interplay of energies.

The guy with the 0 degree Mars in Libra would experience the opposition to the transiting Venus-Mars conjunction as kind of being like a stamen in a plant, he would be kind of energised and this would make him standout or available to mates or others in general but he may not have the chance(Venus opposing) to get someone to get close enough.

If the guy had Mars at 0 degree Aries during this conjunction he would experience it as being overwhelmed with interested others almost throwing themselves at him. He might almost have to retreat in order to stabilise the powerful Venus 'fluttering' vibration manifesting as interested others to him, so that he could zero in on 1-3 potential mates or maybe just one depending.

If your ascendant was at 2 degrees Libra and your vertex was there as well. You would experience the conjunction as depression in a way because you would be in a kind of sink hole and would not be able to contact the others that you would see clearly as potential mates. You may be inspired but still feel an over riding unrequitedness or disengagement from you.

If the vertex was with the descendant at 2 degrees Aries then you would experience the venus-mars conjunction as probably one of the most eventful romantic/relational/passionate moments in years.

The synastric combination between the two of you with your placements as they are during this conjunction would manifest as a commonality. You would draw on your natural compatibility inherent in the natal synastry. The underlying and maybe even unaware frustrations or disappointments due to the oppositional nature of where the conjunction occurs, would still be experienced but you would direct it to each other as a type of angst over unmet needs and therefore you would experience a fair degree of passion between you. You would have the subltle feeling of "Well, you'll do" and in your frustration you would most likely really go bananas with the guy. The guy would have an underlying anger about the energies from the opposition to the transiting conjunction and in his anger and disappointment at not getting enough response from as many as possible, he would very likely have a very passionate encounter with you and could go all the way by popping the marry question to you.

The frustration feelings are due to the action of oppositions. Your descendant is in opposition to the conjunction. His Mars is in opposition to the conjunction. The intensity of passions(Mars) and choices(Venus) is due to the feelings of lack of option or not enough connection. Even though the two of you can potentially have a great connection - you are really after all men(or the most attractive mate/s) and all women(or the most attractive mate/s) on some level. Because it doesn't happen then you turn to the person at hand that you already have a compatibility with and have the most mind blowing attraction/sex ever because of the immensity of bringing all that desire down to rest on the one available person that you have the best opportunity with.

If on the otherhand due to distance of whatever, you are not in a relationship with the guy or if you just can't get together. You would probably tend to make yourself unmistakably available to the nearest likelihood of other, such as at a bar or other social means. He on the otherhand, might drive, ride, or be active in gaining ground to try and find a potential other that he might have enough compatibility with to offload some of his sexual energy onto, or you might just get drunk or overeat. If he was unable to meet others and was stuck in a place he might turn to things that appeal to his active/sexual side, that have a quality of using something up either porn, comedy, grand theft auto, other games, or they may go and get drunk or beat someone up or similar - depending on their character, natal tendencies/aspects, or other transits. A guy with an integrated Mars or a Mars that he can handle - at 0 degrees Libra might use the dissatisfaction of the opposition to fuel his finer qualities/talents, or do some martial arts, or he might even chase someone - its hard to say. He could even pay for the attentions of others though he might resent them for this - again, feelings like resentment, frustration etc are due to the opposition.

This transiting conjunction will have transiting Saturn involved by trine and generally this is a beneficial influence of course, and will add stability, endurance, and commitment to experiences at this time.

posted February 15, 2015 10:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
My sons birthday is feb 22....nice!

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Yes, the Sun there natally we'll receive lots of gifts and be able to be pretty active and probably rowdy with this conjunction coming. He would have a great party most likely with both girls and boys present, and him the star of the show

posted February 15, 2015 10:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Chryseis:
Yes, the Sun there natally we'll receive lots of gifts and be able to be pretty active and probably rowdy with this conjunction coming. He would have a great party most likely with both girls and boys present, and him the star of the show

...though he may find someone else has hooked up or is in prime position with who he thought his gf was generally though the Sun would win the day.

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posted February 15, 2015 11:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Chryseis:
The rest of the chart will modify things as well but perhaps I can see what each person would generally experience during the Venus- Mars conjunction in Aries.

Just you and not taking into consideration the guy, you would experience it as kind of like you would be calling someone to you on some level - or attracting or pulling people to you. Though they may remain platonic because although you would be quite bright in your resonation and others would be attracted to you, you would seem like you were off the shelf - some potential others might potentially break through and briefly hook up with you but generally there would be a resistance to forming relationships inherent within the energies, not from lack of want on your part but from the cosmic interplay of energies.

The guy with the 0 degree Mars in Libra would experience the opposition to the transiting Venus-Mars conjunction as kind of being like a stamen in a plant, he would be kind of energised and this would make him standout or available to mates or others in general but he may not have the chance(Venus opposing) to get someone to get close enough.

If the guy had Mars at 0 degree Aries during this conjunction he would experience it as being overwhelmed with interested others almost throwing themselves at him. He might almost have to retreat in order to stabilise the powerful Venus 'fluttering' vibration manifesting as interested others to him, so that he could zero in on 1-3 potential mates or maybe just one depending.

If your ascendant was at 2 degrees Libra and your vertex was there as well. You would experience the conjunction as depression in a way because you would be in a kind of sink hole and would not be able to contact the others that you would see clearly as potential mates. You may be inspired but still feel an over riding unrequitedness or disengagement from you.

If the vertex was with the descendant at 2 degrees Aries then you would experience the venus-mars conjunction as probably one of the most eventful romantic/relational/passionate moments in years.

The synastric combination between the two of you with your placements as they are during this conjunction would manifest as a commonality. You would draw on your natural compatibility inherent in the natal synastry. The underlying and maybe even unaware frustrations or disappointments due to the oppositional nature of where the conjunction occurs, would still be experienced but you would direct it to each other as a type of angst over unmet needs and therefore you would experience a fair degree of passion between you. You would have the subltle feeling of "Well, you'll do" and in your frustration you would most likely really go bananas with the guy. The guy would have an underlying anger about the energies from the opposition to the transiting conjunction and in his anger and disappointment at not getting enough response from as many as possible, he would very likely have a very passionate encounter with you and could go all the way by popping the marry question to you.

The frustration feelings are due to the action of oppositions. Your descendant is in opposition to the conjunction. His Mars is in opposition to the conjunction. The intensity of passions(Mars) and choices(Venus) is due to the feelings of lack of option or not enough connection. Even though the two of you can potentially have a great connection - you are really after all men(or the most attractive mate/s) and all women(or the most attractive mate/s) on some level. Because it doesn't happen then you turn to the person at hand that you already have a compatibility with and have the most mind blowing attraction/sex ever because of the immensity of bringing all that desire down to rest on the one available person that you have the best opportunity with.

If on the otherhand due to distance of whatever, you are not in a relationship with the guy or if you just can't get together. You would probably tend to make yourself unmistakably available to the nearest likelihood of other, such as at a bar or other social means. He on the otherhand, might drive, ride, or be active in gaining ground to try and find a potential other that he might have enough compatibility with to offload some of his sexual energy onto, or you might just get drunk or overeat. If he was unable to meet others and was stuck in a place he might turn to things that appeal to his active/sexual side, that have a quality of using something up either porn, comedy, grand theft auto, other games, or they may go and get drunk or beat someone up or similar - depending on their character, natal tendencies/aspects, or other transits. A guy with an integrated Mars or a Mars that he can handle - at 0 degrees Libra might use the dissatisfaction of the opposition to fuel his finer qualities/talents, or do some martial arts, or he might even chase someone - its hard to say. He could even pay for the attentions of others though he might resent them for this - again, feelings like resentment, frustration etc are due to the opposition.

This transiting conjunction will have transiting Saturn involved by trine and generally this is a beneficial influence of course, and will add stability, endurance, and commitment to experiences at this time.

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posted February 15, 2015 11:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Should be a great birthday for him!!

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Actually, sorry, I was looking into the Sun there natally with the transiting conjunction but in fact the Sun is early Pisces.

The transits that will be affecting his Sun will be the conjuction to Neptune and a square to Saturn.

Of course he may well be interacting more with the Venus-Mars conjunction with other placements.

And as well, we all will experience the cosmic affect of Venus-Mars in conjunction on that day. Perhaps on some level, your son will still experience many of the themes of my previous post about his birthday.

With transiting Neptune in Pisces conjunct his Sun, he will be quite engrossed probably in something that really inspires his essential purposes and aptitudes.

The square to his Sun from transiting Saturn in Sagittarius - could see him laying foundational aspirations for what he wants to be when he grows up - so something in the day will affect his direction in life and even though he may feel it will be difficult to achieve and maybe a long road to reach it - he would likely feel that it was just the thing for him and he would enjoy commencing on the journey to it .

posted February 16, 2015 12:01 AM            

Perhaps, my MC position would experience the conjunction in Aries as a faint aggravation that may or may not turn out well. The themes would be in wondering whether I'm doing enough to compensate for my faults(imperfections, Venus) or whether I'm being assertive(Mars) enough in forming relationships with the Venus and Mars's in my career maybe(as one example). Quite frankly I probably won't worry too much, haha.

My Venus in Virgo(7th/8th) would experience the conjunction in Aries as potential interest from another but I might be feeling unsure and quietly clasping on to my purse strings (haha could be a double meaning there). Like the MC, a lot would be conjecture due to the nature of the inconjunct/quincunx and generally thinking "but what do you want".

My Moon in Gemini(5th) might have me feeling exasperated and maybe a bit cranky with younger Venus's and Mars's (children maybe) like what I might feel as them taking advantage of their situation or not quite being fair with their actions.

posted February 16, 2015 07:31 AM            

Interestingly, on the 22nd I'm going on a 5-day trip abroad to my favourite city, for my last Master's degree workshop before the final assessment later in the year.

posted February 16, 2015 08:53 AM            

This conjuction will be happening on my Sun in the 9th house trine my Jupiter in the 1st. It will square my Asc/Dsc though. And a few days later the Venus-Mars conjuction will be on my Mercury.

posted February 16, 2015 06:30 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
The Venus-Moon-Mars conjunction is in my 2nd House and will do this with my natal planets:
semi-square Moon
trine Mars
square Saturn, Uranus, (widely) Neptune and (widely) Sun
conjunct North Node
trine MC

Interestingly, on the 22nd I'm going on a 5-day trip abroad to my favourite city, for my last Master's degree workshop before the final assessment later in the year.

What should I expect?!

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laughing at* "and will do this with my natal planets", sounds a bit like a molestation.

Ok so it is going to be general interpretation as other aspects and the signs of the planets will make an impact too.

From the 2nd house semi-square to the Moon: you will maybe feel a little vague, the pleasure principle will be addling you

trine to Mars: could well be munching on gummi bears, vacuuming, and maybe inviting people over to cook with you and use up some meat.

square Saturn, Uranus, (widely) Neptune and (widely) Sun: from the 2nd, the conjunction could influence you to create things like a small indoor pond, complete with some plastic props as well as maybe a bit of moss and some liverwort. You could put a sole fish or maybe an odd pair, and if there was one available you might put a frog there but then you would have the dilemma of containing him. You could end up taking pictures of it and then get wild and far reaching ideas to start a small business whereby you could blog/youtube your daily pond goings on and create themes and seasonal events - and you might even somehow involve children - either by letting it be known that you have a pond for people to visit for a small donation, or you might again get some kind of 'door donation' an online web page for people to view the goings on of your pond. (Hey that's a great idea...I wish I thought of that...sounds fun and potentially profitable Sometimes I see a set of imagery and it wouldn't happen in your wildest dreams, I think perhaps because the sensation relays to me a certain potential and my brain translates the sensation to certain images. So what you may actually do could be quite different.

conjunct the North Node (presumably in the second house too perhaps): you would find a far reaching consequence/manifestation - very complex, but would perhaps involve teaching and I think this is because you would have a strong energy to give of your inner resources and a natural consequence of that could well be a form of teaching. There is a lot in this transiting effect and it might pay(haha 2nd house can be what you earn), yes, it might be worth your while(ooh another second house idea), to look into this transit aspect more thoroughly.

oh, yes, bingo, ditto on the above, with a trine to the MC, I can see and here money tinkling away. So I can't see exactly what but I have a feeling you have a richness to your self in terms of what you can do/attract/show/etc and it can be related to achievement, a degree of satisfaction, and a degree of finance creation. I don't think you could ever be down and out with this sensation as it has a feel like there are roots being placed down into the whole chart. Makes me wonder about one of the previous readings where the conjunction was conjunct the MC in Aries, I did not see the depth of repercussions. Perhaps I am partly reading a combination of effects which includes your other placements. Yes, I think this is the case.

With the effects combined, as I think consciously of them, I would say that the conjunction could overwhelm you a little. Though the 'seeds' (conjunction in early Aries) will have a fertility about them (Venus, Mars, Moon transiting 2nd House)and you will grow with the far reaching transformational repercussions though may go through self doubt ( the square to Saturn, Uranus and wide square to Neptune as well as Sun.

posted February 16, 2015 07:28 PM            

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Originally posted by 3l3n:
Nice info Chryseis, thanx!

This conjuction will be happening on my Sun in the 9th house trine my Jupiter in the 1st. It will square my Asc/Dsc though. And a few days later the Venus-Mars conjuction will be on my Mercury.

I wonder how this will play out?

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313N, the more I know of the person, the more I can zero in on stuff, so I'm finding I'm reading some kind of big thing going on for you at the moment anyway.

I will try and delineate just these effects though but keep in mind I may be influenced by other sensations because I'm getting an idea of the personality. Like if you saw a white photo of someone and slowly blocks of pixelated areas came into focus, you might have several patches of pixelated colour and the rest was still a blank background. You could perhaps see the form, posture, and disposition by colour of the person just going by what you supposed were the rest of the form that would match up to what you could see. I don't know if that makes sense.

I think generally, you will have worries and concerns at that probably have been going on for awhile and maybe are over a parent's health. You will have a lot of opportunity with this conjunction to have a great time socially and romantically, however you may feel like you shouldn't be enjoying yourself when someone else's situation is so dire and dim.

You will probably innately know that you having a miserable time and denying yourself will not really help the situation with this other person, so you will enjoy yourself I think.

You could find you are almost pestered to escalate a connection with someone and a formal commitment could be on the agenda. The square to the ASC/DSC doesn't have many negative effects though perhaps there is an urgency about the potential connection. You really do perhaps want to move on to a more committed level and the other will also see you as worthy of attention. If the other is a female they are probably from an old skool established respectful background and the family were probably financially stable and may even have been considered upper class. If the other is male then they may not be from a well off respected background however they would be a self made man and despite challenges, will usually come out on top and not be destitute.

When the Venus-Mars conjunction hits Mercury, you will likely see a flush of money and goodwill from others.

posted February 16, 2015 07:45 PM            

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Originally posted by lovelyleo:
Thanks for the wonderful information and links.

I have Chiron at 29° Pisces. Will this open up an old wound.
Saturn is my chart ruler at 12°'Aries

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I think you have good insight into this and yes, opening up an old would definitely fit. There is an element of forgiveness required of your self. There feels like maybe old battles (Mars) possibly with one's roots (Moon) and possibly concerning relationships (Venus). There is a healing quality here though, and perhaps it is opening of the wound to be 'licked'(Moon/Venus) then seared (Mars) and potentially left to do its own (Aries) healing (Chiron) in time (Saturn in Aries getting Venus and Mars in first week or so of March and transiting Jupiter will be trining March-April).

There is other stuff in this transit for you as well but I can't clarify what it is.

posted February 16, 2015 07:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Chryseis:
I started this thread with the idea to bring people's attention to what I think is an interesting transit, particularly because of its close proximity to Valentine's day.

I guess I didn't intend to read in the thread and maybe I am breaching some kind of idea about reading outside the personal readings thread. I have tried just to offer an idea of what an aspect could be doing, but sometimes I end up reading.

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Well, I didn't intend for you to read for me, though I guess it sounds like it.

I enjoyed reading the topic. It is a fun topic for Valentine's day. I missed spending Valentine's day with my man as it's his weekend with his son. But I think I may have lucked out as we get to meet up during this conj. It sounds like a good conj in the right house for romance, and I hope it turns out that way.

posted February 16, 2015 08:07 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Lucky me. I get the conj in my 5th. My man will have it in his 11th. Is it a good or bad thing that it's one of our weekends together?! Good, right?

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I think generally it will be a good thing though you might be a little bored(Moon) at times and looking for other attractions. He would probably be feeling happy but unexplainably emotional because he would be wondering if he was having his dreams come true, or scared that he might be under a spell and will wake up with his pants down and his money gone - unpredictablility of the Aquarian house. Generally, though it will be a good weekend and you are likely to eat ice cream, play video games, and may attend a march of protestors over some kind of human or animal issue to do with their homes or what opportunity they have to connect with their own species/type.

I think the Moon in some ways is unfortunate in this conjunction and it is a better and lighter conjunction when I regard just the Venus-Mars element of it. In some charts the Moon is fortunate mixed in with it though. As it is, it tends to addle the person a little and is kind of unsettling or makes them disengage a little or sees them kind of numb, bored, vague or almost floating but in a watery way, I guess fluctuating - similar but not quite to the effects of Neptune I think - the Moon sensation feels closer whereas a Neptune sensation has depth of illusion/confinement/isolation/disappointment/dream/escape/idealism/heightened spiritual connotations etc the moon effects more on an immediate level and with Venus it is about likes and dislikes and acting on them (Mars) to make them feel comfortable (Moon). So I guess it depends on the chart and whether the feelings are ok or not perhaps.