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Topic: what aspects/placements would make a rel not take off...and....
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EmGem
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posted February 15, 2015 04:07 AM
  
also, what would keep two people in each other's lives? i.e. not cut one another out? that feeling that you just need that person in your life in some way to learn something from one another.
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Odette
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posted February 15, 2015 05:01 AM
I associate this kind of thing with Venus/NN or Venus/SN.
These aspects signify real love, but outer circumstances can at times interfere and the relationship doesn't take off.
As to why the people would continue being in touch - that's related to Saturn aspects imo - mainly Saturn/Sun or Saturn/Moon.
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BellaFenice
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posted February 15, 2015 02:40 PM
To answer the not take off part, hard Saturn and sometimes Neptune aspects can keep relationships from developing. Self-imposed and actual limitations, as well as not seeing each other for who they really are can play into this.A good example is Saturn conj DSC. Sometimes it can serve as a very binding aspect between two people. However, I've also observed that it can prevent a relationship from ever taking off due to Saturn themes. IP: Logged |
ikja
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posted February 15, 2015 03:15 PM
I also think that house overlays are important; not just aspects.IP: Logged |
EmGem
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posted February 15, 2015 04:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
I associate this kind of thing with Venus/NN or Venus/SN.
These aspects signify real love, but outer circumstances can at times interfere and the relationship doesn't take off.
As to why the people would continue being in touch - that's related to Saturn aspects imo - mainly Saturn/Sun or Saturn/Moon.
how about moon/sun SN? with saturn, do you mean hard aspects? IP: Logged |
EmGem
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posted February 15, 2015 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by ikja:
I also think that house overlays are important; not just aspects.
can you give me an example of which overlays?
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VacantGazer
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posted February 15, 2015 05:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
I associate this kind of thing with Venus/NN or Venus/SN.
These aspects signify real love, but outer circumstances can at times interfere and the relationship doesn't take off.
As to why the people would continue being in touch - that's related to Saturn aspects imo - mainly Saturn/Sun or Saturn/Moon.
I have experience of this. He broke up with me, but he loves me. It just wasn't the right time for us. I feel we will always be close, even just as friends The relationship felt like it was meant to happen, even if it wasn't lasting. My Venus conjuncts his NN, as does my Mars and my sun/moon midpoint. His venus also conjuncts his NN. I have a few asteroids conj his NN. My Sun/moon midpoint conj his venus
My Ceres conjuncts his SN
My Ceres conj his moon
We have saturn sq moon DW
his saturn conj my sun
his sun conj my sun
His saturn conj my mercury
His Saturn sq my Neptune
His Saturn/sun sq My SN/NN
My Saturn conjunct his mars
My Sun conj his Juno
sun conj mercury DW He has alot of asteroids conj my ASC as well as Pluto. We have a few other natal aspects but i thought i would focus on the saturn and nodes  We have Composite venus sq uranus, but we both have it natally We have draconic aspects too but i dont really understand the draconic chart.
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DeepFreeze
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posted February 15, 2015 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
To answer the not take off part, hard Saturn and sometimes Neptune aspects can keep relationships from developing. Self-imposed and actual limitations, as well as not seeing each other for who they really are can play into this.A good example is Saturn conj DSC. Sometimes it can serve as a very binding aspect between two people. However, I've also observed that it can prevent a relationship from ever taking off due to Saturn themes.
Yep. Saturn.... that bast*rd.
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ikja
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posted February 15, 2015 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by EmGem:
can you give me an example of which overlays?
In terms of keeping a relationship together, perhaps personal planets falling in the 7th house or 8th house. Some people aren't comfortable with the 8th house though, because it is quite intense. IP: Logged |
EmGem
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posted February 15, 2015 07:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ikja:
In terms of keeping a relationship together, perhaps personal planets falling in the 7th house or 8th house. Some people aren't comfortable with the 8th house though, because it is quite intense.
would this include asc opposite desc ?
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EmGem
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posted February 15, 2015 07:27 PM
still new to all this but for synastry are sextiles and trines in saturn aspects better than squares and oppositions? i thought i read somewhere the hard aspects were better...?IP: Logged |
peony
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posted February 15, 2015 07:51 PM
In answer to both questions, Saturn conjunctions and hard aspects to Venus. There can be obstacles or circumstances that prevent the two from getting together or the relationship taking off. This isn't the only factor, but it's a major one. I have a close friend who has remained good friends with an ex for decades after the relationship ended. They have Venus-Saturn (she's Venus) in hard aspect. I can't remember if it's a square or an opposition. She's even in his will! I have a Venus-Saturn with an ex (he's Venus). He and I have remained great friends for 14 years after we broke up. IP: Logged |
VacantGazer
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posted February 16, 2015 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by EmGem:
still new to all this but for synastry are sextiles and trines in saturn aspects better than squares and oppositions? i thought i read somewhere the hard aspects were better...?
Hard aspects are oppositions/conjunction/squares
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theunknown
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posted February 16, 2015 10:30 AM
Venus conjunct saturn in composite Saturn conjunct nnode in Synastry My node. I ran away  still love him though IP: Logged |
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